The Pirates Season Lingers On - The Steelers OTAs Are - meh

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We got a bunch of comments
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If you watch our show all the
time, you know that we love your

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input.
We're not insiders.

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We're going to tell you like it
is 'cause we don't give a shit

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what these teams think about how
we feel.

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We're not beholden to anybody.
We're not chilling for anybody.

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We're just a group of guys that
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is.
We want you.

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We.
Want you?

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What's chilling?
Chilling, chilling, chilling,

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chilling, you know, So Chris is
already in the house.

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He says hi fellas.
It gets it gets funnier by the

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day and funnier by I not mean.
And by funnier I mean not funny.

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He's talking about Aaron
Rodgers, put Carson Wentz is the

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guy.
What?

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Where did this Carson Wentz
thing come from?

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Let's.
That would be a big no, yeah.

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I mean the same.
Place that John and Smith.

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I guess we're gonna go.
I guess we're gonna go, right?

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Just.
Gotta make it up.

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Steelers, I'm gonna say this
are, are the Steelers right now.

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And I'm I'm going to say this
and I'm going to ask this

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question because this is
something over the last couple

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days.
I mean, you sent us that text

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where there were rumors that
they were thinking about trading

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for John U Smith, John U Smith,
the tight ends.

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And you were like, this is
ridiculous.

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I'm embarrassed by this
organization.

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You know, this is the Steelers
we're talking about.

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This is the the gold standard.
OK.

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So, so my question, my question
to you guys and to you guys, the

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steel dealers, are they a
catastrophe right now?

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Are they a catastrophe?
Yeah, I would say that they are

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definitely approaching a spot in
their history that is basically

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the dark ages.
And by that, you know, I'm

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talking about after this 1979
Super Bowl win to 1993 when they

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got back to a Super Bowl, didn't
even win it.

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We're talking those kind of ages
and we're we're almost past that

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at this point.
That's why it seems like when

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they hired Cower, at least you
were like, OK, they got a new

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coach.
He seems to know what he's

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doing.
He's going to turn it around

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like everybody knew.
And sorry for you young kids out

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there, but I'm going to talk
like an old guy for a second.

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When Chuck Noll was done,
everybody knew he was done.

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OK, True.
And he knew he was done and he

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quit.
I don't see an end to this

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Tomlin thinking he's done.
And on top of that, I don't see

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anything since Ben
Roethlisberger left that makes

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me really feel like he can turn
it around.

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So we're talking if, you know,
they don't get a Super Bowl in

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the next couple years, they're
beyond what it was in the 1980s

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and the early 1990s, and that's
bad.

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What did you say, Mark?
I don't think they're quite

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there yet.
You know, you you can't you

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can't say they're a catastrophe.
I mean, as much as I look, I

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mean, I I don't want to be like
in favor of the whole winning

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season thing.
Yeah, but but but, you know, you

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can't you can't say somebody's a
team's a catastrophe if they

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still actually have a winning
record.

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I mean, you know, I mean.
So they're not so the last few

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games.
Yeah, they're not.

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They're not a catastrophe.
I mean, they're better off than

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several other NFL teams.
But I think what we're all

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getting at here, what you're
getting at, Steve, is it's not

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that far from falling off the
Cliff that that's that's the

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concern.
That's the concern is that, you

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know, what looks like what's
going to happen is they're going

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to give it one more go with a,
you know, Aaron Rodgers kind of

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retread.
Let's see if we can capture some

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magic.
And if they do well, then what?

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I mean, even if they like make
the playoffs and win a playoff

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game, can you count on him at 43
the next year?

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I mean, so you're, you're
starting over anyway.

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Where's the future?
Right.

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Well, right.
Here's something that that was

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kind of bandied about today
earlier about this whole Aaron

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Rodgers saga.
And I think I read an article

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about this where it was kind of
like, you know, Rogers is

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playing these cat and mouse
games and OTAs are happening.

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And if you're signed by a team
and it's mandatory, you're

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required to be there or you're
going to get fined.

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So he's kind of dodging that by
not signing.

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And after the mandatory camps
are over, when training camp

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officially starts, he's going to
sign somewhere in between then

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and now.
There are now and then, and I'm

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like, I'm with everybody on
this, you either want to play or

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you don't.
You know, you either either want

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to play or you don't.
And I know I've defended Aaron

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Rodgers to a certain extent
after watching Enigma, but that

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was more of a, OK, he's a, he's
a guy that has his own issues

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and his own personality and he's
got a right to all of that.

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But at some point, at some point
you got a team.

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I mean, you got guys that, that,
that your career is is over.

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And by over, what I mean is your
legend status, your Super Bowl

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ring, your MVPS, you have
achieved all of that.

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Now what you're doing is you're
not necessarily holding a city

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hostage or a franchise hostage.
We've told talked about this,

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you know, HJ has said that he's
not holding the Steelers hostage

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because they're happy with
whatever they get.

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But what you are doing is you're
holding some of these players

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careers hostage, if you think
about it, one of them being

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Mason Rudolph and another one
being guys like DK Metcalf.

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You know, guys on the offense
that are that that they're not

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sure who is going to be giving
them the ball.

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And and you know, chemistry is a
huge thing.

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And if you have a bad year
because you're not on the same

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page, I mean, that that can
affect their livelihood and what

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they're worth.
And I honestly, I think this is

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now a shit move by him and he
needs to either sign because

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that's what the Steelers want
him to do, or say, you know

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what, I'm I'm out.
I'm I'm going to retire.

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You know that that's how that's
how I feel.

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And another thing, you know,
Chris Chotta brings up a great

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point.
How would you feel if you were

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Mason?
You're the only one that gives a

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damn at this point.
And every day there's a new name

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that's going to be the starting
QB, Kirk Cousins.

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Can he come in?
Carson Wentz was bandied about

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today.
I mean, I know we've talked

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about this in the past, you
know, Mason and they, how, how

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poorly they've treated Mason
Rudolph.

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And there's some people that
say, well, they, they, they paid

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him a lot of money and you know,
blah, blah, blah.

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And honestly, though, what a
shit show.

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You know what how you want to
talk about being now Mason

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Rudolph makes his own choices of
course, but you want to talk

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about disrespecting a guy
they're disrespecting Mason

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Rudolph.
No, he's not a Hall of Famer.

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No, he's he's he.
But the point is you don't

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really know what you have with
him.

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He was never given a real chance
here.

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And when he was given a chance
those three games at the end of

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the year 2 years ago, he won
them to put them in the

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playoffs.
And then you re sign him and

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you're sitting around waiting
for some other jablanchi named

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Aaron Rodgers to sign.
And if he's not going to sign,

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people are throwing out names
like who else could we bring in?

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Who?
If I'm Mason Rudolph, I'm

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sitting around like wait a
minute, wait, I I would want the

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fuck out of here.
Well, I mean, I mean, here's

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such bullshit.
I think the way they're treating

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this kid.
Well, it's.

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Total bullshit.
I kind of, well, I kind of

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disagree, though, just just in
the I think Mason Rudolph is

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happy that he has not only an
NFL job, but a likelihood of

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starting.
Yeah, I'm not taking.

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Anything away from that, I think
you're right about that.

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But that's the thing about him.
He is a classic 100%.

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I mean, I, I think that the
bigger issue really is if you're

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not all about football, if
you're not all about wanting to

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get to know the guys, wanting to
practice with the guys, if if

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you're not all about football,
it's not going to work.

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No, not at all.
You can't, you can't just show

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up, you know, in time for
training camp and think that

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everything's going to be fine.
Yeah, 'cause it's or think that,

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you know, just because you're
Aaron Rodgers, you're the

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difference.
He's not the difference anymore

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at this point of his career.
No.

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You know, you know, can he be a
serviceable quality quarterback?

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I think he could, but with being
all bought in, is that that's

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how it's going to happen.
It's not going to happen with

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just kind of showing up whenever
you feel like it.

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Like to me, basically what he's
saying by not being signed right

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now is I'm ambivalent.
Yeah.

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You know, I just, I don't know
what I want to do.

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Yeah, and and for the Steelers,
this is where, This is why I, I

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bring this up.
Are they a catastrophe?

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My, my answer to that is yes,
this is a catastrophe.

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I I can't think of another NFL
team who in, in who has been in

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this situation looking for a
quarterback who is allowed an

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individual to hold the team
hostage because I'm tired of

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this to hold the team hostage
the way that the Steelers are

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allowing this to happen.
Yes, there are plenty of there's

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plenty of quarterback
controversies.

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There's been plenty of people,
you know, they bench this guy,

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he's mad.
They don't know who their

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quarterbacks going to be.
They're going with a journeyman.

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I mean, that shit happens all
over the NFL.

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It's pro sports.
It happens everywhere.

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But but for the Steelers
organization to buy into this

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and and to think that because
you're not you're not hoping

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Aaron Rodgers signs so you have
a bridge quarterback.

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You actually think that he's
going to come here and he can

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take you over the top or you're
not doing this.

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That's true.
And that OK, so that's fine.

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Let's say that you do think
that.

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If that's your thinking, then
what the fuck are you doing

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waiting for him to play these
games?

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Because you're thinking should
be, if you're not on board with

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coming here and winning a Super
Bowl, if you're not 100% in from

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day one, learning the playbook,
being at OTAs, being at

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voluntary, being at all of it,
getting into the team, knowing

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the team, embracing the team, We
want to win a Super Bowl, then,

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then, then we're moving on.
We're moving on.

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They should have moved on weeks
ago.

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Weeks ago.
They should.

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Literally, I would have.
Well, they backed themselves

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into a corner.
Though I don't think so.

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I think they backed themselves
into a corner they constructed

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on their own.
They can still say that, you

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know what, we're done.
They can do that.

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They can do that.
They can.

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That's the catastrophe.
It's an absolute, unmitigated

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disaster.
Thing by not doing that.

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Yeah, it's a disaster.
It's an absolute disaster

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because now what you've done is
every day that goes by where you

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do not lay down the law and say,
OK, we're out.

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We're we're moving on with
Mason.

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We're going to.
This is the way it is is it is

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another day that you're wasting
of these players careers and

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commitment on the field to try
to win a Super Bowl.

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Aaron Rodgers has already won a
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He doesn't fucking care.
He cares about one thing.

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He cares about the paycheck.
That's the only reason he's

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going to sign with any team.
Chewing and chewing bark.

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Yeah, and all that other.
Streets and silence.

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You know, I, I respect that
shit.

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I, I respect that shit to a
certain point, But when it

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starts to interfere with other
people's lives, I'm not even

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talking about the fans.
I'm talking about, you know, the

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rookies that have come in here
the the Roman Wilson of the

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world that are trying to come
back from injury and make a name

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for themselves in the NFL, The
DK Metcalf, who was traded for,

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who has to buy in, who has
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You know, everybody.
Why do you?

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Why do you?
Why are you hesitating on that?

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Well, I mean, he wasn't at OTAs.
Neither was our leader, TJ Watt.

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Yeah, well.
You're not, you're not terribly

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excited about that.
But here's the difference.

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Now the men.
And by the way, they're signing

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to his Steelers contract.
OK, so but Metcalf is going to

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have to take his fines, right?
He's going to be fined and TJ

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Watt has been a part of the
organization his entire career

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and he's trying to get a new
contract.

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That's different than Roger
saying.

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Is it?
Is it being fully committed to

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the team?
I'm just saying, I mean, I I

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understand your point.
That's that's a good debate to

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have, but I don't think it rises
to the level of of selfishness

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and and I've been on record as
being a defender of Aaron

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Rodgers.
Good evening, Marvin Hamilton in

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the house.
Thanks for being here.

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Mike Lawrence is in the house as
well.

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As always, we already thank
Chris Chotta for being here.

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Let me, let me, let me, let me
put some whipped topping on

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this.
Subject OK, please, please.

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I could use a little whipped
topping.

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Whipped topping.
Oh.

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Yeah.
Yeah, tell us about a a this.

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Is a this is a Sunday.
But you're talking about this

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guy, right?
That guy, Yeah, this guy with

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the mustache.
Yeah, that guy, do you?

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Think him with the mustache.
By the way, is that Mason?

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I don't care, he.
Looks a little tougher.

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Mason grew A mustache.
Looks a little tougher.

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He's like ready to be an NFL
quarterback.

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As far as I'm concerned, Mason
can do whatever the hell he

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wants.
Yes, I do think he's ready to be

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an NFL.
So here.

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Here's the whipped topping.
On this subject, Oh, hold on,

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you're going on, you're going on
his looks did did did well.

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You have to go on his.
Looks.

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Do we judge his looks?
That means he's going to be

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good.
You have to judge his.

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Look, did you see Ron Jaworski
in the 70s?

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He had a great.
Must that guy, that guy never

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looked like a quarterback.
Anyway, go ahead.

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Sorry to interrupt. 70s
quarterbacks were different

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back.
Then right we were all.

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Different, no.
Here's the theme that goes on

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with the Steelers.
They let other people dictate

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what they do as an organization.
They are no longer an

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organization that says this is
the Steeler way, take it or get

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the F out.
They they're not that

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organization anymore.
And that's where the frustration

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comes in for me personally.
As you know, part of the

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Steelers Nation.
And if you're part of the

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Steelers Nation, you should be
pissed off about this too,

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because the organization used to
take control of the situation.

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They used to have a direction.
They went in and they went in

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that direction.
And if somebody didn't want to

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play with it, even if they were
a good talent, they were gone.

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Now what?
What do they do?

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They make deals with guys who
says, OK, well, whenever you're

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ready to make the decision,
we'll bring you on.

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It's the same thing they're
doing with Tomlin.

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Tomlin, your coach for life.
Whenever you decide you're going

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to retire, we're fine with that.
And that's not the sign of a

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leader, a leadership.
It's not a sign of a strong

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franchise.
A strong franchise is recognizes

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they make mistakes and they fix
them right away.

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Just like what the Eagles did
with that guy that they got rid

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of.
You know, they had to eat some

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cash.
But you know what?

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Bryce Huff.
Yeah.

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He's gone now.
He's like, get out here.

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The the coach said he's garbage
and they got rid of him.

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That's what good organizations
do.

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The Steelers are just not a good
organization anymore, and they

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won't be as long as they
continue to have this leadership

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that's fed a silver spoon.
Okay, so so answer my question,

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are they a catastrophe?
Not as long as we have Mason

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Rudolph with that mustache.
I'm going to take, I'm going to

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take that as a yes.
No, no, I don't.

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I don't think they are.
I think Marks point about them

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being competitive still despite
their failures.

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Well, is a kind of a testament.
I don't think the Tomlin, I

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think it's to the other players
who really who really are just

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dealing with the bullshit of not
having a quarterback, the number

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one position.
And they recognize they're never

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going to be able to because they
recognize that Mike Tomlin

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doesn't have the ability to do
it.

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And I think this this
organization only turns around

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when the owners say, sorry,
Mike, you don't have it, you

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must retire.
This is it.

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And they hire somebody who does
recognize good talent and that's

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it.
I don't think it's this guy from

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Ohio State.
People are saying it might be

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him.
I don't think it's him, no, I

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think.
He's what guy from?

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Will Howard Will.
Howard the guy.

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They drafted this year.
I think he's I think he's going

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to be good.
I think he could be a good

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talent.
Do I think he can take you to

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the promised land?
No, I think probably at this

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point in his career, Mason
Rudolph's better.

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And if you draft the
quarterback, he's got to be

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better than your second best
quarterback.

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Well, and I think people look at
Will Howard and they they see

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just from the physical Zeke and
the way the way he kind of

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talks, they see Ben
Roethlisberger.

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That's so that's why I say
they're not a catastrophe I

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agree with.
I agree with the grand squab

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beanie here, because there are a
lot of catastrophes out there.

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I mean, the Cleveland Browns,
for God's sakes.

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When have they?
When have they been in a

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championship game?
Ever.

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Look at their quarterback.
I mean, yeah, Detroit.

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Detroit was a disaster of a
franchise too, but they turned

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it around.
Well.

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Good coach.
The thing with the philosophy

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and and always going to go for
it on 4th down and whether it's

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whether whether it works or
doesn't, that's what he does.

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Well, you know, when it comes to
Cleveland, they're kind of in

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their own little world, their
own little bubble, you know,

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and, and to me, that's like
they're just always a

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catastrophe.
I'm, I'm talking more about, you

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know, the situation the Steelers
in are in right now.

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It it it, it's a catastrophe.
Well, I think from a.

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Leadership perspective, Yes, I
agree.

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I my My word is they're
teetering.

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There you go.
Yeah.

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They're teetering.
I, I would, I would agree with

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you, I mean.
Seesawing.

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Yeah, That, that, that
potential.

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See and I think.
Sundays on a seesaw with whipped

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cream on either side.
Sure.

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I don't know why we have all the
whipped cream references.

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There's one more dollop on the
wrong side and it's all over.

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That's right.
Sundays everywhere.

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Yep.
Look out for that dollop.

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Sunday and this is crazy.
So, so I see, I, I think they

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were teetering when the Kenny
Pickett year came along.

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I, I think that was the
teetering because once that

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experiment, I don't even want to
call it experiment.

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That was kind of like, you know,
putting everything on on all

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your money on double zeros at
the roulette table.

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We know what we're getting with
Big Ken.

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Yeah.
So it's kind of like.

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Across the locker.
Room yeah, but it but it's kind

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of like, you know, from that
moment on they have not been

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able to figure a single damn
thing out and.

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Can I ask you a serious
question?

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Please do do.
You think the Steelers are the

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organization that sends players
to other organizations where

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they win Super Bowls?
I mean, it happened with Lev

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Bell.
It happened with Antonio Brown.

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In some ways, you could say it
happened with Kenny Pickett.

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Lagarrett Blunt.
Lagarrett Blunt, right?

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Yeah, I don't know.
You'd have to go back and look

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at how there's so much movement
in the NFL and when players get

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released and they get picked up
in that to to fill a role or

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some depth.
And then they end up on the, you

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know, the really active teams
near the end of the year are

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those playoff teams because
they're looking for depth.

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Yeah.
So they'll pick people up off

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the trash heap just for depth,
and then they end up getting a,

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you know, they end up winning a
ring.

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Yeah.
Can he Pickett.

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Yeah, Perfect example, right.
You know now that what that was,

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you know.
So you're saying it's more just

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dumb luck?
I think it's happening.

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It's happenstance.
It's.

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Dumb luck.
It's not I I mean like you, you

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take a guy like Legarra Blunt.
You could make that argument,

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but you could also make the
argument that the Steelers got

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rid of him because he had, you
know, some problems with

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substances.
He goes to New England, win,

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wins a championship there.
But then they basically say we

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can put anybody at running back.
Eagles pick him up.

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Happens to be there, you know,
there, you know, out of nowhere

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year.
I mean, it's just really just

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dumb luck.
I think you know what I mean, do

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you?
Do you have some sort of write

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up or I I feel like you have
some sort of research on this?

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No, not on, not on that one.
I would.

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I would.
No, no.

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I was just thinking about that
the other day.

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And I was thinking, man, they
have a lot of people who went on

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to win rings because and then I
was thinking, is that what

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happens?
Is that what the Steelers

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organization has become?
And as far as the Legera Blunt

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situation, that was one of the
times where they actually did

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show some leadership.
They said, get out, you're

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garbage.
I don't care.

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You know, we don't need that on
this team.

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Go in a Super Bowl up there I.
Actually think that the Steelers

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think they can fix things and
they can't.

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And that's another big problem
that they have when they draft.

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Look at all the wide receivers
that were guaranteed headaches

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when they got them.
They knew they were going to be

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headaches.
They knew they were going to be

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projects.
They drafted of them anyways,

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and guess what?
They got rid of them because

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they were headaches.
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Every week we're going to try to
tell you like it is Speaking of

459
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,200
a catastrophe.
Let me see this comment by Chris

460
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,840
Chottier because, you know,
people are.

461
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,480
How about the difference between
Rogers and Brady when Brady went

462
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,440
to Tampa Bay?
Look, I, I guy was all in

463
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,040
helping sign players.
Absolutely, absolutely.

464
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,160
And and what did he do?
He switched teams, won a Super

465
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,280
Bowl.
I don't think Aaron Rodgers is

466
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,320
on the level of Tom Brady.
And you know, you've got you've

467
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,720
got Tom Brady and then you've
got a bunch of really elite

468
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,680
quarterbacks and then you got
everybody else.

469
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,880
I would put Aaron Rodgers at the
height of his career in that

470
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,080
bunch of really elite
quarterbacks, but I think he's

471
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,520
really souring his legacy by
doing what he's doing.

472
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:38,080
Tom Brady was showing up to
every single practice when he

473
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,200
was going through a divorce.
Right.

474
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,880
You know, Aaron Rodgers is
trying to tell you there's some

475
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,040
personal people that I'm close
to that are really struggling.

476
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,240
I can't even sign.
I think, I think, I think what

477
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,920
that really means is these
people owe me money and I'm

478
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,800
trying to get it back.
You know, I don't know.

479
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,680
Whatever the heck it means, it's
not.

480
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,320
It's not good enough, you know,
show up or get lost.

481
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,720
That's enough of that.
We've had lots of OTA stuff

482
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,360
going on.
You know, don't believe the

483
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:11,440
hype, it's only OTAs.
It'll start getting meaningful

484
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,120
when we get to actual camp.
We'll know a little bit

485
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,960
hopefully about more about who
are real quarterback is going to

486
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,400
be at this point.
I'm going to go on record by

487
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,120
saying I hope it's Mason
Rudolph.

488
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,120
I really do.
I mean, he's the only guy

489
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,040
standing, right?
Now, I hope they give this guy a

490
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,400
legit, well, I think the guy we,
we we get into the weeds with

491
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,960
this shit all the time.
What he deserves, what he

492
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,800
doesn't deserve, no matter what
we're talking about here.

493
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,360
I think Mason Rudolph deserves A
legitimate shot at starting for

494
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,920
this team, period.
He gave it his all.

495
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,720
He was always willing to come
in.

496
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,600
He never said anything bad.
I mean, yeah, we had the

497
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,080
Cleveland, the Miles Garrett
Institute years ago.

498
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,040
That's well, well beyond us.
Give this guy a shot.

499
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,080
He can throw the ball, if that.
There was.

500
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:59,480
Ross Graham is being and, and
I'm going to go on a tangent

501
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,640
again, but Ross Graham is being
inducted into the Whippy Hall of

502
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,200
Fame this year.
He should be.

503
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,320
Yeah, Well, right.
He should have been 20 years

504
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,280
ago.
But for some reason they waited.

505
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,440
So they had him because.
He played for Scott.

506
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,960
Dale, they had him on the they
had him on on the radio, you

507
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,480
know where.
That is, I do know where they've

508
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,600
been to Scott Dale.
Yeah.

509
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,120
So smaller than Mount Pleasant.
Yeah, right.

510
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,080
So.
So they had.

511
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Rusticize at Kecksburg.
They had whatever that, however

512
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,520
big that is, I have heard about.
Anyway, they, they had him on

513
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,360
the radio today.
They asked him about because

514
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,000
everybody knows he was part of
the Hogs.

515
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,760
They asked him about Joe Gibbs.
They asked him about the

516
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,960
offensive line.
And you know, do you think

517
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:40,640
Broderick Jones, even though
he's played right tackle, but

518
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,040
now he's at his natural
position.

519
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,400
How hard is that back?
And.

520
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,280
Forth Yeah.
What did he say about?

521
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,840
That he basically said look, but
when we became the Hogs, four of

522
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,760
us were rookies.
Me Grim Bostick, I I can't

523
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,320
remember the other two names He
said and, and, and, and when

524
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,840
Mark Rippian was the
quarterback, he said that year

525
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,200
he got sacked 9 times the whole
year.

526
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,240
He said it's your offensive
line.

527
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,960
They need to gel.
It doesn't matter whether

528
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,800
they're rookies or they're, you
know, veterans.

529
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,480
They, they have to be guys who
can play and as far as like left

530
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,120
tackle to right tackle to guard
to whatever he said, you know,

531
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,280
you only keep 7, maybe 8
offensive lineman on your

532
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,160
roster.
So he's like, I get when he came

533
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,640
into the league, he could play
center.

534
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,760
This is Ross Grimm, you know,
he's like, so you know, you

535
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,920
always want guys who they know
how to play a little bit guard.

536
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,040
You got to slide over to this
because if your center goes

537
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,040
down, somebody's got to snap the
ball.

538
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,760
So it's not a matter of that.
It's a matter of finding guys

539
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,440
who want to play, who want to
play together, who understand

540
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,120
the job they have to do and they
just do the job.

541
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:52,280
If they just do the job, Mason
Rudolph will deliver the rock

542
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,440
where it needs to go.
Fuck Aaron Rodgers, fuck him.

543
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,520
I don't care if he signs.
I think it makes us a worse

544
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,640
team.
I'm tired of all of these.

545
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:05,160
I am.
Thank you.

546
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,080
I'm.
I am tired of all of these

547
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:12,560
talking heads saying, well, you
know, yeah, he's kind of a

548
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,960
problem.
But if if we sign him, does it

549
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,960
make their this is the question
you hear?

550
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:21,040
Does it make their quarterback
room real whole lot better or

551
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,360
just a little better or what?
Everybody says, well, you know,

552
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:25,920
it's an upgrade.
It makes him better.

553
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,960
Fuck that.
After all of this, Are you

554
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,600
kidding me?
It makes it worse because he's

555
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,520
getting special treatment.
He didn't have to be there to

556
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,480
help.
He's not all in on the deal.

557
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,960
He's there for the $10 million
or the $20 million or whatever

558
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,280
the hell they're going to steal
out of the fans pocketbooks to

559
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,360
put into Aaron Rodgers
pocketbook So he can go out

560
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:49,080
there and he can sniff, you
know, tree bark.

561
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,880
And he and he and he can and he
can date women and get married

562
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,680
secretly in Vegas and, and, and
lay and lay shit.

563
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,040
Somebody remember there were
rumors that he got married

564
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,520
because he showed up somewhere
wearing a ring or something.

565
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,800
Like that?
You know, or he can or he can

566
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,800
talk about how Danica Patrick
was such an incredible influence

567
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,360
on his life.
All the while she was saying, I

568
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,240
feel like I was held hostage.
I mean, you know, come on, let's

569
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,400
get over it, Pittsburgh.
Move on, Move on.

570
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,760
Look, it's for me it's really
simple.

571
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:27,000
I think the better path is this
is what I see.

572
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,880
I see with Aaron Rodgers.
I see best possible scenario,

573
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,160
make the playoffs, win one
playoff game.

574
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,960
And he's old, right?
So who?

575
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,000
So next year doesn't matter,
right?

576
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,800
I think I would rather see Mason
Rudolph play half the season.

577
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400
And you know what?
If he's good, great, keep

578
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,560
rolling with it.
If he's not good, then let's

579
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,360
have will Howard play half the
season.

580
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,080
And if he's great, good.
Then you don't have to worry

581
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,760
about a quarterback next year.
And if he's not, and you know

582
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,320
what?
You're probably 4 and 13.

583
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,840
Yep.
And you get your quarterback in

584
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,280
next year's.
Draft, and you draft in

585
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,720
Pittsburgh, Marvin says.
Marvin has a question.

586
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,960
How many quarterbacks do you
think we'll go through before we

587
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,080
find the one?
Well, hold on.

588
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:06,760
Let's see.
Kenny.

589
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,240
Kenny, Justin Field, Justin
Field.

590
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,520
Rudolph's in there.
Russell Wilson, Doc Mitch

591
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,120
Trubisky.
Stock in there.

592
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,960
Mitch Trubisky, right?
Yep, No duck.

593
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,280
Ben.
Ben was playing.

594
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,280
He was there.
He was there.

595
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,280
Mitch Trubisky.
Was that Allen?

596
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,880
That's 5.
Was Allen on this team?

597
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,160
At least somebody?
Allen Yeah.

598
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,640
Kyle Allen Yep, Yep.
At least 5.

599
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,640
Maybe Skyler Thompson this.
Skyler Thompson.

600
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,880
Skyler Thompson, Yeah.
But they they never started.

601
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,840
So we can't.
We can't.

602
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,360
Do that.
It's just mostly guys that they

603
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:36,760
picked.
Up.

604
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,680
Hey, Marvin, at this point right
now, the count is five and

605
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,200
climbing.
This will be the 5th year

606
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,160
without Roethlisberger.
Did I have that right?

607
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,440
Chris CD says Mark May and Joe
Jacoby.

608
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,520
That's right.
So this will be the 5th year

609
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,760
they've had a different
quarterback starting since

610
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,840
Roethlisberger.
It was Pickett.

611
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,960
No, I think it's the fourth
year.

612
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,760
No, it's The thing is, this is
the fifth year going into the

613
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,480
5th year, right?
Because the the first year they

614
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,000
started Trubisky, yeah.
Then the second year would have

615
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,080
been Kenny Pickett, right?
And then?

616
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,720
3rd year is Justin Fields.
Yeah, fields.

617
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,040
So this is the fourth.
Year, I guess you could say.

618
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,520
Russell Wilson, too.
Yeah, yeah.

619
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,960
But this is the fourth, this
right, This is year 4.

620
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,280
This is coming up.
Yeah, that's.

621
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,920
Right.
Anyway, listen, it's gonna be a

622
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,760
lot, I mean, and but that I
don't think that's any different

623
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,000
than anybody else in the NFL.
Let me let me just take a step

624
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,240
back and say that like it's rare
that a that a team will find a

625
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,360
quarterback and then.
Well, there's a there's a lot of

626
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,520
teams that they've got 20 years
before getting a good

627
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,720
quarterback, you know what I
mean?

628
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,680
So, you know, your, your guess
is as good as ours, Marvin.

629
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,600
Maybe that's maybe that's what I
should say.

630
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,040
OK.
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631
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,000
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641
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,200
Time, 7:30 PM Let's move.
On Isn't there something else we

642
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,120
love?
What else do we love?

643
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,280
We love food.
Yeah, you want to do that now?

644
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,640
Yeah, I'm.
Smelling some food, right?

645
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,720
Now, alright, I actually I think
that's that's probably a really

646
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,840
good idea considering smelling.
Some food, yeah, I think.

647
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,720
Yeah, but.
Never know.

648
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Taste the biscuit.
Taste the goodness of the

649
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,120
biscuit.
Browns had 42 quarterbacks love.

650
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,880
It honey sauce.
Uh huh.

651
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,160
Taste the goodness of the
biscuit with that honey sauce.

652
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,880
Honey sauce.
Look at that honey sauce on me.

653
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,280
I don't like the way it tastes
with my chicken wings.

654
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,440
How come you never fly with us?
'Cause I'm, I'm busy trying to

655
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,240
produce the show while you guys
are having a good time, so is

656
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,200
that?
What you call it the?

657
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,240
Trader Joe's segment is upon us.
The Trader Joe's segment is

658
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,320
here.
That is what the music means.

659
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Now there for those of you that
don't know, I work down on East

660
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,160
Liberty and I really love it.
There are great people, great

661
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:21,320
place.
And So what I do after that is I

662
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,680
bring home a Trader Joe's
product every week and we try

663
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,000
and give it your honest, our
honest opinion because this is

664
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,840
not a sponsored segment by
Trader Joe's, but it is

665
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,080
something that they did give me
permission for.

666
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:40,520
And this week we are going to be
sampling I like, I like.

667
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920
French fries.
I like where this is said it.

668
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,840
All right, why?
Why don't you guys debate the

669
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,040
fries and that while you get it,
because I'm also cooking it.

670
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,680
Let's.
Debate the waffle fry versus

671
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,160
like the shoe strings fry.
Which one you like better?

672
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:59,360
Well, I'm I'm going to have to
go old school and say I like

673
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,080
your standard fry.
Just the standard.

674
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,720
I'm like, you know, I'm, I'm a
McDonald's fry guy.

675
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,440
Yeah.
Do you like it with the skin on

676
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,360
or the skin off?
It's got to be blanched.

677
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,640
You know, I mean, I can go 100
different ways, but I would, but

678
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,920
I would say, you know, the
McDonald's fry to me is the

679
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,320
masterpiece.
I agree, and that's more like a

680
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,560
shoestring fry, but it's a
little bit.

681
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,280
Thicker, just a little bit,
right?

682
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,640
Right.
I don't know, but a good waffle

683
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,440
fry, I mean, you got some meat
there, you know?

684
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,680
Yeah, a waffle fry like. 5 or 6
good waffle fries.

685
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,320
Yeah, I mean, a waffle fry could
be very enticing.

686
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,560
The thing that will bring a
waffle fry down is if it's not

687
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,760
cooked enough.
Right, right.

688
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,120
Chew.
You have to chew it and there's

689
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,440
no crunch to it.
True actually with.

690
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,680
Any French fry?
If that happens you pretty much

691
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,200
want to just throw them away or
put them on a permani brothers.

692
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,760
My concern here, looking at the
packaging is that there will not

693
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,600
be enough waffle fries.
It does look like they're only

694
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,920
like 5 or 6.
Yeah, it looks like a very small

695
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,000
amount of waffle fries.
He he did get it right.

696
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,440
He did serve it with ketchup.
How about that?

697
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,960
How about that?
And you know what I don't know

698
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,719
there?
There are quite a few in here.

699
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,600
Well, you know what, you should
be taking over this role here.

700
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,800
I mean, obviously.
I already have.

701
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:21,440
Yeah, I tell you what they're.
Good.

702
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,520
They look good and crispy.
Now the one thing I have to say

703
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,639
is I can't be I can't be held
responsible too much for the

704
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:31,120
cook on them because I'm I'm
literally air frying while I'm

705
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,639
producing a show.
So seasoned waffle cut fries.

706
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,280
You guys tell me I.
Don't know about the season.

707
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:41,880
Well, Oh yeah, I get it now.
Yeah, eat a few.

708
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,520
I like it.
Yeah, I like these these.

709
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,719
I like it, Yeah.
Good, good stuff.

710
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,760
Yeah, this is definitely a put
them in the air fryer.

711
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,679
You can eat them during the
game.

712
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,880
Hopefully you're watching a
hockey game, maybe a tennis

713
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,440
match.
You know when the French Open is

714
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,960
on.
You might want to check out

715
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,760
that.
I think I think you could watch

716
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,480
anything and eat these.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's good.

717
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,920
The seasoning.
And I was, yeah, I was wrong.

718
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,320
The seasoning actually is.
It comes through.

719
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,720
It's pretty good.
I mean, it's maybe a tad burn.

720
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,880
Yeah, it's because they had,
they sat in there for a little

721
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,720
bit.
Yeah, you know.

722
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,680
I don't mind a little burn.
Better than undercooked?

723
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,600
Correct.
Yeah.

724
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,560
I mean, yeah, good, good job
here.

725
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,400
I mean, the fact that you were
going to give us nothing earlier

726
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,280
tonight until we asked.
Till we winding.

727
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,760
Knowing that this was in the
household, it's disappointing.

728
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,080
In the winky.
Fries.

729
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,120
Oh my goodness.
All right, so.

730
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,200
I don't think they were very
good, Doctor Defleche.

731
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,080
Trader does snack time season
cut waffle fries.

732
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,200
Thumbs up.
Hey, yeah, definitely 2 thumbs

733
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,480
up.
Thumbs up.

734
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,600
Hey, would now be a good time to
plug our show for next week?

735
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Sure.
Yeah, why not while you guys are

736
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,560
eating, go ahead and plug.
We got we got something special

737
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,760
coming next week.
You and the guys out there, you

738
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,480
got to loosen up.
We have a very special week next

739
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,800
week because you all know the US
Open is coming.

740
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,840
The Pittsburgh, it's going to be
played at Oakmont.

741
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,920
Very tough place, but we don't
know anything about golf.

742
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,040
So we're bringing in a
Pittsburgh expert.

743
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,120
His name is Mike the Dortch.
He used to be chief editor of

744
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,280
the of the Tribune Review.
It's, it's, it's, it was, if you

745
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,160
remember, there were these
things called newspapers, right?

746
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,640
They used to deliver them to
you.

747
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,600
They would have sports pages.
Yeah.

748
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Well, he was a guy that
basically put it all together.

749
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960
It's awesome.
He retired and he's, you know,

750
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,600
got a second career now.
He he's got a second career now

751
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,240
that basically follows golf and
he is a golf expert and we will

752
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:53,160
have him on the show next Monday
just for you guys out there.

753
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,520
So if you have, you know, if you
if there's a question you want

754
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,600
to know about Oakmont, just put
it in the the comments this week

755
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,000
and we'll we'll get to it next
week.

756
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,960
We want to make sure he knows
that, you know, what the

757
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,480
questions are going to be ahead
of time.

758
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,960
So he's ready, but he will
absolutely be able to answer

759
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,800
things on the fly, I promise
you.

760
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,840
The other thing about Mike is he
used to be our head commissioner

761
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,600
for our fantasy Football League
for decades and decades before

762
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,320
he retired from that profession
also.

763
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,880
So he's a full time golf guy
now, and he will be here on the

764
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,200
porch next week talking about
the Oakmont USO.

765
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,640
And we look forward to that.
And and how do you say his last

766
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,600
name?
Duderich?

767
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,400
Yeah, yeah.
It's it because being a central

768
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,040
PA kid I always thought it was
Duderich, no?

769
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,440
You can say Duderich.
But if no, it's just trying to

770
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,120
be how?
We can, we can debate it with

771
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,000
him.
Do you like your name set?

772
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,280
Nah.
We can make.

773
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,680
We can give him a nickname.
I like and I I do know a thing

774
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,760
or two.
MD 20.

775
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,480
I do know a thing or two about
golf.

776
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,360
We'll be talking a little bit.
Scotty Scheffler.

777
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,200
Yeah.
Will it be Scotty Scheffler or

778
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,040
the field?
We'll be talking Rory McIlroy.

779
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,840
We'll be talking Bryson
Dechambeau.

780
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,920
We'll be talking about how fast
the Greens really are.

781
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,400
You'll be talking and I won't
because I will be in Palm Beach

782
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,720
probably, maybe golfing Mar a
Lago, who knows?

783
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,880
Now, here you go.
Amy May, part of my Trader Joe's

784
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,560
fan club, says she missed me at
Trader Joe's on Saturday.

785
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,920
It's because I was in New York
City.

786
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,600
But I really appreciate you
showing up, Amy May.

787
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,560
And if you show up this
Saturday, I won't be there

788
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,160
either.
But I will be there tomorrow and

789
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Wednesday if you'd like an
autographed T-shirt.

790
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,720
No, thank you.
Mike Lawrence says Oakmont is

791
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:41,480
going to be 1 hell of a test for
PGA pros, especially if the

792
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,920
rough is thick and wet.
Well, it rains a lot in Pitts.

793
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,080
Yeah, we all know that.
And nice Mike, the Pittsburgh

794
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,560
golf coverage legend.
Yeah.

795
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,920
So actually I may.
It depends on what our schedule

796
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,160
is, and I'll let you guys know
All fair and and well before the

797
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,960
show.
Don't worry.

798
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,760
But I don't.
We won't.

799
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,200
Rely on you.
No, you shouldn't.

800
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,680
I I I may pop in though just to
say hi to Mike because I haven't

801
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,480
seen him in so long.
I'd rather you're not.

802
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,000
Yeah, he.
Probably doesn't.

803
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,840
He probably doesn't remember
you.

804
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,920
You were you were nothing
franchise.

805
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,480
When you joined, yeah, you'll,
you'll basically like you'll,

806
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,240
you'll be on there and you'll
have wind blowing in your hair

807
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:17,320
and, you know, it'll just be a
disaster.

808
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,320
I love how he says wind blowing
in your hair.

809
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,560
OK, let's move on here at the
sports podcast.

810
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,240
Ask him about that.
Arnie Palmer.

811
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,800
The Pirates.
The Pirates are just under 500

812
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,440
since Don Kelly took over.
Are things looking up?

813
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Don't get too excited.
Fire Charrington.

814
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:43,880
I mean, it it to me, it, it,
it's all its signals is that

815
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,400
Shelton had to go and that
they're still a shitty team.

816
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,200
But the change was good, you
have to admit that, right?

817
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,960
It was positive, yes.
It wasn't just the parallel.

818
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,040
I hesitate.
I hesitate to use the phrase

819
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,280
positive.
With for anything associated

820
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,520
with the Pittsburgh Pirates
right now, you can talk about

821
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,960
their rotation, you can talk
about their starting pitching,

822
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:17,120
obviously Paul Skeens, but to be
honest with you, you know,

823
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,760
firing the manager, that was one
small part of the problem that

824
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,080
isn't going to fix a God damn
thing.

825
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,800
It's just not gonna do it.
And I.

826
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,280
There's one small step, but not
a giant leap for mankind.

827
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:37,360
Not a giant leap for for for
pirate kind Yes, and you know I

828
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,960
hate this destroying Ben
Cherrington because one that's

829
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,280
fair.
Yeah, I hate it be and and the

830
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,440
reason I hate it is because it's
one thing to watch the games and

831
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,240
we've all watched enough of them
to watch Shelton manage and to

832
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:58,360
go what you know.
And then you see the results on

833
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,720
the field where a lot of
decisions he made resulted in

834
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:07,240
most likely the bad outcomes.
They still probably would have

835
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,280
lost those games, but he had to
go.

836
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,040
This whole notion that
Charrington has has done nothing

837
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,360
to me.
It has a little bit of

838
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,640
credibility, a little bit of
credibility.

839
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,160
It would have a lot of
credibility if we knew that

840
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,560
these were all the decisions
that he wanted to make and he

841
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,560
was green lighted on all of
them.

842
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,560
There is no way in hell, I'm
sorry that this guy was like,

843
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:39,080
yes, we need to sign IKR and
rowdy to LEZ and these are the

844
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,840
people that we should get.
There is no way in hell any of

845
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,600
those guys were at the top of
Ben Cherrington's list.

846
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:48,720
That's true.
No way.

847
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,600
Do you think that Ben
Cherrington, GM of a Major

848
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,520
League Baseball team and he has
experience with other teams as

849
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:00,600
well, sat down in the offseason
and said let's make a short list

850
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,000
of free agents that we need to
sign?

851
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,840
Tommy Pham is number 2.
No way.

852
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,800
No way.
Nobody says that.

853
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,080
No, no.
So stop beating the shit out of

854
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,480
Ben Cherrington.
Do I think he should go?

855
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:20,320
You know, I got to tell you, I
don't really know.

856
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,240
Because if somebody said to Ben
Cherrington, here's the

857
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:27,400
checkbook, put the team
together, that's what I want to

858
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,880
see.
Because I guarantee you we

859
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,360
wouldn't have at least half of
the players that we have on the

860
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,120
field right now.
And I guarantee you that this

861
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,120
franchise wouldn't be going
well.

862
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Andy Rodriguez is better.
Shouldn't he play catcher?

863
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,040
Jesus Christ.
I mean, pick a catcher.

864
00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:48,760
Please don't say the Lord's name
in vain.

865
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480
Pick a it's not your Lord.
Pick a catcher.

866
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,480
You don't know that.
Maybe we'll find out in the

867
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,720
afterlife.
We'll see.

868
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:58,880
I'll see you in Valhalla.
I've been watching.

869
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Why?
Why?

870
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,280
I think I'm going to be up top.
You're going to be down low.

871
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,360
Most likely, yeah.
I won't be saying.

872
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,160
Funeral.
I would love them.

873
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,840
Would you would slide me out on
a boat and light me on fire?

874
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,520
I tell you we could.
We could do it in put in Bay.

875
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,880
You don't even have to be dead.
I was.

876
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,440
Yeah, I was just thinking, you
know what, That that this is,

877
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,600
this is the evil, evil
foreshadow going on right here.

878
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,920
If Chris doesn't show up the
week after our vacation, then

879
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:25,960
you know this.
We don't know what.

880
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,120
Happened by the way, the sports
sports guys are going to be in

881
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,600
put in Bay in the end of August.
So is it the end of August or

882
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,920
beginning somewhere in the
middle, somewhere in the middle.

883
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,960
So you know, we'll let you guys
know we're going to be there if

884
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,960
you want to come on up and say
hi and get some autographs and

885
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,840
watch my Viking funeral and you
can come along.

886
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:47,840
But no, no T DS Viking funeral.
Boom.

887
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,720
Anyway, I, I'm just, I'm, I'm
sick and tired of of people

888
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:53,160
beating the shit out of Ben
Cherrington.

889
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,640
I have no attachment to this
guy.

890
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,920
I, I, I don't know him.
I've never talked to him.

891
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,520
You know how we operate here in
the sports porch.

892
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,240
We're not, you know, we're not
insiders.

893
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:04,560
We're just, we're just fans.
Been been around a long time as

894
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,480
fans.
Well, since you're all fired up,

895
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,360
let me get you fired up about
something else.

896
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,080
Are are we staying on the
Pirates?

897
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,600
Yes.
OK, go for it.

898
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,880
What did you think about O'Neill
Cruz looking at that last strike

899
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,000
and striking out when you could
have just, you know, swung the

900
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,400
bat and maybe even won the game?
Just another O'Neill Cruz at

901
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,800
bat.
That that doesn't excite you.

902
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,000
Well, it's not that it doesn't
excite me.

903
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,960
It's.
You're used to.

904
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,560
It it's part and parcel to the
way the Pirates organization

905
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,160
works.
Yeah, you know it.

906
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,240
And that's why I say this isn't
just a Ben Cherrington issue.

907
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,680
It wasn't just a Derek Shelton
issue.

908
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:48,040
And Don Kelly, if he ends up
being the the manager next year,

909
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,480
unfortunately, Don, you know,
I'd love to have him on the show

910
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,680
actually, but we wouldn't be
able to ask him anything that we

911
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,360
really want to ask.
But unfortunately, Mr. Kelly,

912
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,760
it's because you're the cheapest
option and we all know.

913
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,520
That next guy.
Yeah, and I'm not not trying to

914
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,200
insult him, but that, you know,
they're not going to go out and

915
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,440
get a manager with a track
record to be kind, a manager

916
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,960
with a track record.
No they don't want one.

917
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,560
They would have to pay them and
the guy they just.

918
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,160
Fired and all this talk about
why, you know, I heard on the

919
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,720
radio today.
Dumbest argument I've heard in a

920
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:21,920
long time.
Well.

921
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,280
If they start, if they start
winning a little bit or if they

922
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,080
play reasonable baseball like
500, you know, and who could

923
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,440
they pick up and then like, and,
and there's no interim term with

924
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,680
Don Kelly.
Isn't that kind of strengthening

925
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,240
Ben Charrington's position to
stay on on his GM?

926
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,880
And look, that's the dumbest
argument and question I've ever

927
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,160
heard in my life.
OK.

928
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,360
This guy Cherrington has been
handcuffed from day one, and he

929
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,680
knows it.
If I'm Ben Cherrington, I want

930
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,480
out at this point.
I want out because every week

931
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,640
that goes by where we don't
perform.

932
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,920
And then at the trade line
deadline, rumors about Mitch

933
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,920
Keller going to the Orioles,
rumors about, you know, all

934
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,440
kinds of rumors.
Will they trade McCutcheon?

935
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,960
Rumors about, you know, you
know, any of those players now,

936
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,920
they're not going to be good
moves for the Pirates because

937
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,960
they're not going to get
anything in return That's

938
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,560
anything other than a handful of
prospects, which is like the

939
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,520
word of the decade with the
Pittsburgh Pirates.

940
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,440
And it's only going to make him
look worse because the media is

941
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,600
going to go after him even more.
Give the guy a break.

942
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,520
All right, Ben, get out of town.
Go find a real job.

943
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,520
You know, Notting's never going
to well, no, no disrespect to

944
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,560
him.
I'm tired of that.

945
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:42,640
Notting's never going to pay you
that what you're worth and he's

946
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,080
never going to give you the keys
to the Kingdom to build a

947
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,360
winning team.
It's very, very obvious.

948
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,520
So, you know, get off Ben
Charrington's back sports radio.

949
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,040
Find something better to talk
about, please.

950
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,400
I mean, and, and to be honest,
there's not much better to talk

951
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,120
about with the Pirates right
now.

952
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,120
So it's all about how much money
he's allocated.

953
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,800
It doesn't matter who he is, it
matters how much money he has or

954
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,560
has not, right?
Right.

955
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,560
There's no, there's no debate to
go on with this.

956
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,440
We all feel the same way.
Absolutely.

957
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,640
It's just how can we get him?
How can we run him out of town

958
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,400
so we can get a new franchise to
to join us?

959
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:21,960
I.
Don't know.

960
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,960
I don't know.
That's that should be our goal.

961
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,360
Yeah, well, your whole thing is
he takes the pirates with him

962
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,000
and then, right?
Takes them or sells them, I

963
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,040
don't care.
I I.

964
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,320
Need a new franchise with a new
owner?

965
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,560
I I would.
I would rather him sell them.

966
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,760
I think we all would.
Of course then it's just the

967
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,280
pirates stay and and you get a
new owner.

968
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,720
Yeah, I I think we can get him
to leave, but they would have to

969
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,960
leave all the history with.
The yeah, they go to Nashville

970
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,040
and just become like, you know,
the Nashville and naval aiders

971
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,320
and yeah, yeah, I love that.
Yeah.

972
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,440
And the naval.
Aiders I love.

973
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,680
It.
Is that a real?

974
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,880
Word.
I just made it up.

975
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,480
It's a great.
It is now part of the lexicon,

976
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:08,160
the naval aiders.
Right.

977
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,160
And just, you know, and then we
get to keep the Pirates.

978
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,800
In two years, we'll get a
Pirates team.

979
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,920
Yeah, exactly.
You know, a real Pirates team,

980
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,560
so we can bring PNC back to it's
great.

981
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,880
We'll have a fit, you know,
we'll have the the expansion

982
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,360
draft, you know, everybody can
protect a couple players.

983
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,400
We'll get some good players off
of some teams.

984
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,760
We.
We bring Kutch back first,

985
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,000
probably.
You know that that would be a no

986
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,680
no that.
Would be the wrong thing to do.

987
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,440
Now, I did, I did hear that,
that Kutch had some things to

988
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,080
say that I actually did agree
with where he basically said,

989
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,280
you know, look, the the, it's
our job to win these games.

990
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,160
And he was talking about, I
guess last night there was a

991
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,920
really horrible 3rd called
strike on Henry Davis and

992
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,360
everybody, everybody's up in
arms about that.

993
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,240
Robo, are you making?
Right.

994
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,000
And and what Koch said is
actually the sign of a veteran

995
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,160
ball player who understands the
league.

996
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,320
So this is kind of what he
brings to that locker room.

997
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,800
Unfortunately, it doesn't help.
But you know, basically what he

998
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,920
said is, hey, look, if we're the
Dodgers, we get that call.

999
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,440
You know it, if you're a rookie
and you're on a team that's just

1000
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,960
not playing well, you, you're
not going to get close calls,

1001
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,400
you're not going to get calls.
And the more you argue, the less

1002
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,400
calls you're going to get.
That's not the way it should be,

1003
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,280
but that's just the way it
works.

1004
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,680
And we have to stop thinking
about the calls that we didn't

1005
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,880
get.
I'm paraphrasing him.

1006
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,640
We, we have to stop thinking
about the calls that we don't

1007
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,760
get and think more about playing
the game fundamentally, right,

1008
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,280
so we can win more ball games.
So we're on the other side of

1009
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,200
that.
So now we're getting the calls,

1010
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,040
you know, truer words could not
have been spoken.

1011
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,960
And, and honestly, in the last
however many years he's been

1012
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,440
back, those those were the
things I think he said that made

1013
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,880
the biggest difference or make
the biggest difference.

1014
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,800
You know, if he goes back to the
team and says, hey, look, this

1015
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,240
is the way it should work, you
know, let's get these guys back

1016
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:08,560
on on playing sound fundamental
baseball and winning games.

1017
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,200
That's.
A real leader right there then.

1018
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,080
That's that's why he deserves to
be on this team still.

1019
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,800
Right.
Well, but you know, here's the

1020
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,840
thing though.
I mean, I agree, Koch is an

1021
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,640
absolute leader and a a very
good guy.

1022
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,680
And I I enjoyed the time that I
got to see him play on the

1023
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,880
Phillies.
But at the same time, though,

1024
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,880
there's no leader that can make
this team better.

1025
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,320
No, I agree.
You know, they they can teach

1026
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,160
them the right stuff to do right
and the right attitude mentality

1027
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,480
to have right.
But you know he can't.

1028
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,720
You know he can't make Henry
Davis like, you know he hit the

1029
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,120
ball out of the ballpark 40
times.

1030
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,920
No, no, he can't.
But that that that's the thing,

1031
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,000
Matt.
Matt Borman from Tampa, FL has

1032
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,680
just joined us on Facebook.
Hey, Matt, Hey Matt, come to the

1033
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,760
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Make sure you follow the Sports

1034
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,880
Porch on Facebook or go over to
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1035
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,880
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Follow us there.

1036
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,480
Of course, you can follow us on
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1037
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,160
Time, 7:30 PM.
We're here and then we drop the

1038
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,520
podcast.
Henry Davis is a is a.

1039
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,120
Here's a prime example.
He's actually, he's actually

1040
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,040
playing.
Not too bad, right?

1041
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,920
By the way?
But here's a prime example.

1042
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,240
Henry.
Davis, Yeah, he started.

1043
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:18,920
Hitting the ball of what I'm
talking about, this guy comes up

1044
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,440
through the system.
He, he's the 11 pick.

1045
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,880
He's a catcher, right?
You bring him into the major

1046
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,240
leagues and then you put him in
right field.

1047
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,840
And when is and when and we?
We land basically that the day

1048
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,920
they hit.
It and when is he finally

1049
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,000
actually showing some signs of
life when he's playing catcher?

1050
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,360
When he's playing catcher and
And now, now you know, Andy

1051
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,960
Rodriguez is supposedly back and
now there's a debate as to

1052
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,840
whether or not they should just
put Andy and a catcher or Henry

1053
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,400
Davis.
This goes back three years when

1054
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,680
I went crazy on the bucko's
reports over and over again

1055
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,320
about the line up.
I remember those days.

1056
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:07,760
Baseball is a game of consent.
I thought it was doing pretty

1057
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,280
well.
Baseball.

1058
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,360
Baseball is a game of
consistency.

1059
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,160
It is a game of streaks and the
only way to achieve that you're

1060
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,600
you're rarely are you going to
have a player who's going to bat

1061
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:25,640
325 the whole year.
He's going to start slow, get

1062
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,720
hot, work his average up, and
end the year with that average,

1063
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:30,840
or vice versa.
Right, they're going to be ups

1064
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,360
and downs.
You have got to be able to

1065
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,480
understand what your role is, to
settle into your spot on the

1066
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,640
team and play it in a consistent
level.

1067
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,600
They bring Henry Davis up, they
put him in right field, they

1068
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,200
move him around, they let him
catch a game, they move him

1069
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,480
around the lineup.
They do this, they do that, they

1070
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,600
do this, they do that.
They're still kind of doing it

1071
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,320
now.
I guess Kelly has brought back a

1072
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,240
little bit more consistency.
The lineup.

1073
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,120
That's good.
I think I was all over Shelton

1074
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,560
about this three years ago.
Great.

1075
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:07,920
Now why don't we let Henry Davis
play catcher and bat for like

1076
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,800
the rest of this year and give
him a shot at adjusting to

1077
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,200
because he tears it up in AAA
and give him a shot at adjusting

1078
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,960
to this league.
You got nothing to lose.

1079
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,720
You're not making the playoffs,
OK.

1080
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:26,160
He's a number one overall pick,
so he had the talent at some

1081
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,760
point.
Right, right.

1082
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,720
So, you know, we'll see what
happens there.

1083
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:33,880
Although, I mean, I do think
that he's basically playing

1084
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,480
because Joey Bart's hurt, right?
And yeah.

1085
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,280
Joey, Bart.
Wasn't hurt so I mean.

1086
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,800
Sucks right now, too.
He's not.

1087
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,240
He's not playing well when he
does play, yeah.

1088
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,240
Well, but.
Home run this year.

1089
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,000
OK, but he's still one of their
better players.

1090
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,160
I'm just saying, you know, he
you can say also that he kind of

1091
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,680
did earn the job, but I I would
certainly at least split time

1092
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,040
with with Bart when he comes
back, but I certainly wouldn't

1093
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,360
play.
Rodriguez.

1094
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,000
Rodriguez.
I mean, what's he ever done?

1095
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,640
Yeah, you know.
No, except get injured, right?

1096
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,920
Yeah, I, I, I'm, I'm with you.
So, you know, there's your

1097
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,600
buckos talk for the weak guys.
One more thing, this one's for

1098
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,240
Mark.
Hey, Mark.

1099
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,800
Is this Pirates related?
Yes, it's pirates.

1100
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,400
Related I would have never
thought two years ago that we

1101
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,800
would have him saying one more
thing on the pirate subject, but

1102
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,240
here we go.
This is for Mark.

1103
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,400
Have you ever seen this baseball
card of Andrew McCutchen?

1104
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,720
Yeah, no, he was.
He was fun.

1105
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:36,600
That is a great, that is a great
baseball card.

1106
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,040
Yeah, that's a collectible,
right?

1107
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:38,720
There.
What is that?

1108
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:41,240
A bike chain around his neck?
I don't know, yeah.

1109
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:43,760
He was, he was fun when he was
when he was, he was on the

1110
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,480
Phillies.
He he sort of like did this

1111
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,560
thing where like they were kind
of like doing like a funk

1112
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,920
dancing kind of thing when they
hit home runs and stuff.

1113
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,040
Yeah.
That's a great card.

1114
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,000
Yeah, I got to give.
That.

1115
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,800
One Yeah, that's awesome.
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1116
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,680
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00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,960
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1120
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:14,000
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1121
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following us on TikTok, on
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We put out shorts and videos
during the week recapping

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00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,920
highlights from the show to get
you amped up for next week's

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00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,280
show, which is always at 7:30 PM
Eastern Time.

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Now we do have a celebrity in
the house here to my right.

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This is hockey Jesus and Hockey
Jesus preaches on the podcast

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00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,360
during the regular NHL season
after every single Penguins

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game.
So if you're a big Pens fan,

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that game wraps up.
The Pens have won, the Pens have

1130
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,080
lost, the Pens have tied.
Well, there are no ties anymore.

1131
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But the, you know, whatever it
is, they get the loser point,

1132
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,040
which he hates.
Hop on the podcast, hop on

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00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,840
YouTube.
You can see after every single

1134
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,200
game he preaches.
I saw a name on insta link to

1135
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,240
the pens job but I forget who it
was.

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00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:04,120
HJ.
Well, we might as well just jump

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00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,600
right into that before we talk
about the Stanley Cup Finals.

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Go forward HJ, it's all yours.
They were.

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00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,160
Both on my list.
So yeah, you're right.

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00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,000
You probably heard the name
Mitch Love.

1141
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,240
Mitch Love is a capital
assistant.

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00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,960
He's he's tops on the list.
He's actually in the in the

1143
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,160
running for the Bruins job too.
I think everybody likes him.

1144
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,080
He's an up and Comer.
He's a young kid.

1145
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I say young kid.
He's 40 years old.

1146
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,400
There are a couple other names
you may have heard.

1147
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,040
DJ Smith.
He's a Los Angeles Kings

1148
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,800
assistant.
The difference between those two

1149
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,320
guys makes makes makes a big
deal on who Dubis signs because

1150
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,120
DJ Smith will bring a team in
that's more heavy, more like

1151
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,920
more like Florida, a team that,
you know, may not be as fast,

1152
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,240
but definitely would play heavy
and we'd be tough to to play

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00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:54,520
against.
Mitch Love's probably going to

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00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,480
be a better guy to bring the new
guys along.

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And let's face it, you know, he
had over there.

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So I think he he I think he's a
better fit just because you're

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00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,320
you're thinking about Sid still
and you're thinking about the

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00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,640
new guys.
So I think Mitch Love is already

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00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,080
kind of been through that for a
couple years in, in, in

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Washington.
And you know, they did really

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great last year.
Of course, you know, in the

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playoffs they didn't do so
great, but they did they got out

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00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,200
of the first round.
So I think that's a a little bit

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00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,640
of AI think that's a good thing.
There are three other names that

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00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,360
I heard.
Jay Woodcroft, he he coached

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00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Edmonton before the guy who's up
there now coached Dan Quinn

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still in the mix.
But I think Dan Quinn will

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probably stay on as an
assistant.

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Doesn't doesn't Dan Quinn coach
the Washington Commanders?

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No.
The and the last name and I

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think I think this is this is a
long shot.

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It's Elaine Nazridine.
He played for the Penguins for

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like a game and actually he his
only goal was on an assist by

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Sidney Crosby.
So that would be weird if he

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became the head coach.
He's a Dallas assistant.

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I I think he's off the list at
this point.

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Probably they were just waiting
to be able to interview him and

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he's probably not going to make
the final list.

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But I think Mitch Love is going
to be the guy.

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But I don't know.
I I keep hearing I can't

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pronounce their names.
Some coaches over in Sweden who

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are still into the is still in
the mix.

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00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,520
So the thing about this is
dubious has complete control

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00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,400
over it and he's not leaked
anything to anybody.

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So if anybody knows anything
about it, they're doing a really

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good job of keeping it quiet.
It was kind of that way with the

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Sully.
Now I'm going to call it firing.

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With the Sully firing, nobody
knew.

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You know, he probably told, he
probably told Sid and the owners

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and that was probably it.
And, and I think it's pretty

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interesting that Dubis, for
being a guy who likes to be in

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front of the media, keeps these
things really quiet and doesn't

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like that, doesn't like to leak
too much when it comes to

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decisions like this.
What do you think about those

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picks, Mark?
You like any of those guys?

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Because I'm asking you because I
know the Flyers just went out

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and got talking, so.
Yeah.

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I mean, I guess if if those were
the choices, I would go with

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Mitch Love, you know, because I
think the Capitals, you know, to

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be honest, I really liked what
the capitals did this year.

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I think that they actually more
or less, I think they ran out of

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steam from going through the
whole Ovechkin 900 goals.

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Yeah, you know what I mean.
They just wanted to keep that

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momentum rolling so he could he
could, he could break the goal

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record this year.
Right, right, right.

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And but you know, I think did
they have the the like the

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second best record in the East?
They did, yeah.

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No, they had.
They had the best.

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Record.
They had the best, didn't they?

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OK.
They had the second, second

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highest record.
They didn't win the

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presidential.
Right, right.

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They were like.
That was a a Winnipeg.

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Right.
That's right.

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That's right.
But they were like second best

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and best in the East.
Yeah, they were second.

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So they they put up some, you
know, well, and, and, and I

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think that they were like.
It all year long.

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Yeah, and they.
They came out right from the

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gate and they were just at the
top and they stayed there.

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Yeah.
And I mean, I think they played

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a really good style.
And I think I think the style is

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something that the Penguins
probably do have the potential

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01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,760
to replicate because they're
they're similar in the way that,

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you know, you know, Capitals had
OV and then the Penguins have

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01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,960
Sydney and Capitals, a lot of
young guys coming up.

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And, you know, if the new coach
is allowed to develop these

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young guys more so and we can
and we end up seeing that some

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of them can really play maybe
with some additions in the

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offseason, right, You got
potential to have a real fresh

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look and possibly, you know,
maybe even get to the playoffs

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next year.
So I think, yeah.

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I think it would be that would
be a stretch, but that would

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that would be, that would be
amazing if they did.

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Yeah, I mean, I, I think he's
the guy.

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My my only concern would be I
hope they're not dilly dallying

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01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,040
enough to where Boston comes in
and swoops them up.

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I totally agree with that and
that's why I think they need to

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01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,760
do it very soon.
Everybody was saying that he,

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01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,800
well Dube is self-imposed the
June 1st deadline.

1241
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,880
Well, that was yesterday.
Oh, right, right, right, so.

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:39,240
So I don't know if that means he
hasn't found the guy yet or the

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01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,200
guy he asked to be hired is
thinking about it.

1244
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,000
Let's face it, this is not an
easy position to take over.

1245
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,480
Although, you know one thing I
would say it is also possible

1246
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:56,240
that with that June 1st deadline
that he's already completed it

1247
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,800
and they just don't want to take
away anything from the Stanley

1248
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,520
Cup finals.
Yeah.

1249
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,600
I mean, that's, I guess that's.
Possible, although you would

1250
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,280
think that they would announce
it before the final started.

1251
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,440
This would have been a good time
to do it in between.

1252
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,320
Right, right.
You know.

1253
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,040
'Cause once the Stanley Cup
finals get going, you know you

1254
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,280
want to focus in on that.
OK, so I got 2 questions here,

1255
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,040
one from Pat, one from Chris
Chotta, one from Pat off track

1256
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,600
by the way, Chris Chotta.
But before that I want I want to

1257
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,160
get your take on this.
Any shot that Marner ends up on

1258
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,040
the Penguins.
Sure, there's a shot they they

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01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,560
they have the cap space.
I think he does.

1260
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,200
I Here's why I.
Don't Why?

1261
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,000
Here's why.
I don't know anything about him.

1262
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,840
No, but he sounds sounds like
he's great.

1263
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,120
He scores 100 points.
Right.

1264
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,080
Yeah.
Yeah, isn't he a great player?

1265
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,480
He is, he's, he's very talented.
But here's here's what I think.

1266
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,200
I think they need to go get some
Sam Bennett's of the world.

1267
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,720
I I think I think they got
enough talent coming up that

1268
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,880
nobody's going to be as good as
Mitch Marner.

1269
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,480
But I don't think you want to
spend 12 million to 15,000,000

1270
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:05,040
on him for six years and then
then it's going to take away

1271
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,040
from Sydney's final years here.
I just.

1272
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,440
Don't like Hold on, hold on,
hold on, I.

1273
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,200
Don't like the way that.
Is yeah, but hold on OK so this

1274
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,240
is coming from a quasi hockey
fan who pays more attention now

1275
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,120
than I've paid in a long time so
yes I don't understand the game

1276
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,560
the way that you guys do the.
Fit is wrong in my.

1277
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,680
Opinion.
Is the fit wrong?

1278
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,000
OK, but but how old is Marner?
He's young.

1279
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,160
He's like 2425.
So you've got an air.

1280
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,640
Let's just just hear me out when
it might be. 20. 7 Is he a

1281
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,960
winger?
Is he a winger?

1282
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,760
Yeah, yeah.
So you, you, you've got an heir

1283
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,160
apparent here to Sydney as far
as.

1284
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:39,960
Just no.
No.

1285
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,280
No, I'm not talking about Hall
of Fame credentials and all I'm

1286
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,600
talking about.
If he played center position,

1287
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:46,280
yes.
OK.

1288
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,520
But I, I'm just saying that I,
you know, there's a Toronto

1289
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,280
connection.
I, I, I, I think he's going to

1290
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,640
end up on the.
Maybe, I mean there is a Toronto

1291
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,880
connection I and I'm not sure if
Dubas likes him or not.

1292
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,520
I just think Dubas recognizes
the league is going to this new,

1293
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,040
what I called a talented goons
where.

1294
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,720
I I got that, I watched.
That where where guys can

1295
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,680
actually skate and score, but
yet are tough to play against

1296
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,640
because let's face it, Carolina
doesn't have any of those guys.

1297
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,720
They can get to the finals, they
can get to the conference finals

1298
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,400
and they get blown out of the
water.

1299
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,840
Why?
Because they don't have that guy

1300
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,480
and they're not talented enough.
And let let me just talk about

1301
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,920
the Stanley Cup finals for a
second.

1302
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,560
I'm actually going to drop a
better analysis of this.

1303
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,760
So check my analysis of this
tomorrow night, but I'm just

1304
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,760
going to give you a little bit
of a sneak preview.

1305
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,160
I think the Stanley Cup finals
is going to be great because

1306
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,720
you've got Edmonton who wants to
fly and you got the, the you got

1307
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,160
the Florida Panthers who are
looking to go back-to-back.

1308
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,280
Bob's been running good this
this post season again.

1309
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,040
I just think that the talent
that Edmonton's going to bring

1310
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,480
is nothing like what Florida's
seen so far.

1311
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,320
And I think I think Edmonton is
finally going to get there.

1312
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,640
I think Mcdavid's going to get
his trophy and if he doesn't,

1313
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:14,720
that's an even bigger story
because if, if, if he does, if

1314
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,320
he misses, if he gets to the
finals 2 years in a row and gets

1315
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:25,200
nothing right, that's that's a
big concern As for him to be one

1316
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:31,240
of the greatest of all time.
OK, so you're going to have a

1317
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,480
finals preview tomorrow night?
Yeah, I've got some great

1318
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,320
analysis about how Florida and
Edmonton got to where they are.

1319
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,520
And I've got even better
analysis of how the teams are

1320
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,160
formed and what that means for
the Penguins.

1321
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,160
OK, so I'm going to encourage
all you guys who are watching us

1322
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,480
and listening right now.
If if you're a hockey fan in

1323
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,920
general, especially if you're a
Penguins fan, but if you're a

1324
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,720
hockey fan in general right now,
go over to the sports sports

1325
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,360
podcast on YouTube.
It's at the Sports Sports

1326
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,360
podcast and subscribe and hit
the notification button.

1327
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,720
Hockey Jesus is through
throughout the entire Stanley

1328
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,200
Cup playoffs has been doing
updates after every round.

1329
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,880
Are you going to do every game
in the Cup?

1330
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,480
Finals.
Oh yeah, absolutely.

1331
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,720
For every Stanley Cup Final
game, you're going to get a

1332
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,880
little analysis.
There's like.

1333
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,800
Two or three days between.
Every Yeah, I've I've.

1334
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,640
Pray with Jesus.
I pray with Jesus.

1335
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,560
I've known Steve for 35 years.
I have not known maybe the

1336
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,800
counselor who we have on the
show once in a while, but I've

1337
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,640
never met anybody in my travels
that that appreciates and loves

1338
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,040
hockey as much as he does.
So if you want to learn

1339
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,560
something.
About hockey, we also haven't

1340
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,640
spent much time in Canada.
Yeah, well, I haven't, but has

1341
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,160
he?
I mean, I'm talking about you.

1342
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,320
Yeah, I know you're.
I've been.

1343
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,040
To Toronto.
I've been to Toronto.

1344
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,800
I've never even been to Toronto.
I've been to Nova Scotia.

1345
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,480
I was 9 and we don't want to
talk about yeah.

1346
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:54,120
Real quick, yeah, yes, Pat, the
Buffalo Sabres should move to

1347
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:59,000
San Diego. 100% on that.
And and Chris Chott is asking

1348
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,520
about NHL expansion plans.
Yep, they want more.

1349
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,320
They want more teams in the
league and there are plenty of

1350
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,200
cities who want them.
Look for two more to come on

1351
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,240
board in the next five years.
I don't like that.

1352
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,160
I don't like that, to be honest.
I, I feel because we, we were

1353
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,640
talking a little bit last week,
I, or maybe in between weeks, I

1354
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,080
feel like it's a little watered
down.

1355
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,680
I feel like neither one of these
teams is an incredible team.

1356
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,360
Well, maybe I take that back.
I mean, Edmonton's got the

1357
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,600
offense of, you know, firepower.
Florida has made it the three

1358
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,000
consecutive finals.
They're an excellent team.

1359
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,240
Yeah, you can't get there by
luck.

1360
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,120
He's got a problem with.
He's got a.

1361
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,600
Can't get there by luck.
No, I'm not saying they're, I'm

1362
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,360
not saying they're not a good.
Team, you know what he's got a

1363
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,840
problem with you were here while
he was bitching with the Philly

1364
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,120
show his.
Point about Sunbelt hockey

1365
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:50,400
teams, I agree with that sucks.
I hate it and I hate it because

1366
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,240
they do want to go to a nice
weather place.

1367
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,000
They do want to go to a place
that barely knows about hockey

1368
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,240
and if they win some games,
they're happy.

1369
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,040
If they make it to the Stanley
Cup finals, they get free drinks

1370
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,120
for a year and if they lose,
that's OK.

1371
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:05,920
We.
Get on the beach.

1372
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,120
I that's true.
I get it.

1373
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,320
I get it.
Yeah, we made that.

1374
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,080
I made that argument.
It's it's more about the fact

1375
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,400
that the players are going to be
like that can be close to Miami,

1376
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,080
you know, that kind of stuff.
That's true too.

1377
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,399
But it's also their careers.
They need to, you know, if they

1378
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:21,560
if, if Florida as an
organization doesn't put

1379
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,399
together a good team, then they
go there.

1380
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:27,200
Then they just become the
Cleveland Browns of, you know,

1381
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,600
the NHL.
They've, they've got to be

1382
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,880
careful.
Well, as far as fans go, I, I, I

1383
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:36,160
think every game down there is
pretty close to sold out.

1384
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,359
No, no, it wasn't beforehand.
Well, OK.

1385
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,279
Beforehand the finals, you know
you.

1386
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,399
Know I was thrown up because all
the other teams came to watch.

1387
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:49,399
OK, well, that's first of all,
that's a, that's a money maker.

1388
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:52,359
And second of all, second of
all, when the Penguins, when it

1389
01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:56,680
was obvious this year that the
Penguins did not look very good,

1390
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,000
were they selling out?
No, they weren't.

1391
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,920
OK, that's hockey.
Yeah, that's not that's nobody

1392
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,680
cares.
That's three years in a row of

1393
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,080
of garbage.
That's hockey.

1394
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,040
I guess that's what happened.
I get it, all right?

1395
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,800
We got to get on to what we're
watching here.

1396
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,920
So let's do that.
If you know anything about our

1397
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,000
show, what we like to do is we
like to give back to you because

1398
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,160
you have given so much time to
us and we appreciate that.

1399
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,720
And we know that it's really
hard when you're looking for

1400
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,560
something to watch out there and
you're looking for something

1401
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,880
that you can, you know, tell
your significant other about and

1402
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,319
say, hey, you know, let's try to
watch this and, and, and, and,

1403
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:36,120
and it's just bad and it's
really bad.

1404
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,120
And then you've, you know,
you've lost that judge.

1405
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,040
You get, you know, a.
What judge?

1406
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:43,040
What's a judge?
Is that a word?

1407
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,240
Don't you ever get?
The judge Or is it just a sound?

1408
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,000
It's a both.
It's a little bit of both.

1409
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,120
Yeah, you can get the judge.
Yeah, yeah, you lost that.

1410
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,439
Judge All right.
So this is how we give back to

1411
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:53,560
you.
There's so many streaming

1412
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,640
platforms out there.
There's Max, there's Paramount

1413
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,880
Plus, there's Hulu, there's
Prime, there's Netflix.

1414
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,560
You know, just to name a few.
And.

1415
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,080
What we do is we go through it,
we watch something, we tell you

1416
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,480
our honest opinion.
It's good, it's bad.

1417
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:12,520
It's but we give you your time
back.

1418
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,000
You don't have to search.
You can skip over the shit

1419
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,040
that's no good and you could
tune into the shit that we think

1420
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,160
is really good.
And that's how we help.

1421
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,520
The beauty of it is when you
look your significant other in

1422
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:29,160
the eye and you say the guys
from the sports porch approved

1423
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,440
it.
That's right, sports.

1424
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:33,000
Sports.
Approved.

1425
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,600
It's good.
And that is what we're watching.

1426
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,480
The only qualification is that
we have to finish the season

1427
01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:42,840
we're in to give it a review.
Or if it's a movie or a one

1428
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,160
episode documentary, you got to
finish the whole thing.

1429
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,360
You can't give a bad review if
you only go halfway through it

1430
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,720
and you quit.
You just got to suffer it out.

1431
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,520
That's that's how we give back
to you.

1432
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,200
So I'm going to let's start with
myself today.

1433
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:03,240
Your TD has watched something
and this is a real quick watch.

1434
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:09,680
It is the cold case, the Tylenol
murders on Netflix.

1435
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,160
Did you see this?
People died.

1436
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,760
Did he did this in the previous?
I heard that this was recently

1437
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,720
added, yeah.
All right, so I haven't.

1438
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,680
Seen this but you remember the
Tylenol murder?

1439
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,680
I do.
Remember, yeah, I mean, I don't

1440
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,040
remember it, but I remember like
they had to change all the

1441
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,520
packaging because of it.
And it was like suddenly nobody

1442
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,320
was buying Tylenol.
And then, I don't know, few

1443
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,440
months go by and then suddenly
everybody's buying.

1444
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:36,440
Tylenol dogs and cats were
living together.

1445
01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:38,320
It was chaos.
Mass hysteria.

1446
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:44,960
Mass hysteria.
So 1982 extra stank Tylenol

1447
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,400
capsules.
Were 1982.

1448
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,400
Yeah, we're tainted.
And that's the reason it piqued

1449
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,000
my interest because I was like,
I remember this.

1450
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,160
We.
Were like in Little League.

1451
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:54,720
But I don't remember.
I don't remember.

1452
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,520
I don't remember what happened
after it.

1453
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:57,960
I don't remember if they ever
got anybody.

1454
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,680
I don't.
Remember the packaging?

1455
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,160
Change, right?
So 1982 extra strength Tylenol

1456
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,560
laced with cyanide in the
Chicago area.

1457
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,400
Quite a few people died.
Obviously law enforcement, the F

1458
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,000
the FBI gets involved, they
start trying to figure this out.

1459
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,520
Did they find a guy?
They do come up up with somebody

1460
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,320
who they thought was their
number one suspect and up until

1461
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,800
recently they still consider him
the number one suspect.

1462
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,080
Is he still?
Alive, I'm going to let this oh.

1463
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,600
Man, I know I got to watch.
You got to watch it.

1464
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,240
It's it's 3 episodes of about 40
minutes each.

1465
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,640
It's really easy.
I can get that between periods.

1466
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:39,280
Absolutely you can.
And there's a little there's a

1467
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:44,520
little string in there about how
it could really could have

1468
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,840
really happened that I think is
kind of like the Occam's razor

1469
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,400
thing.
And I'm like, to me, it's not a

1470
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,960
conspiracy theory.
It's a somebody whose mother

1471
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:59,160
passed away got really invested
into looking into this stuff and

1472
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,040
and made the couple comments
where I was like, you want to

1473
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:06,000
know what that makes sense you?
Know so.

1474
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:07,960
I'm going to let you guys try to
decide.

1475
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,080
So the Tylenol murders.
You say thumbs up.

1476
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,880
It's an easy watch.
The Tylenol murders on on

1477
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,200
Netflix.
Yeah, if you if if you remember

1478
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,520
those these days.
Definite thumbs up.

1479
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:23,520
It's an easy watch.
Any any issues with Tylenol

1480
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,440
since 1982?
Yeah, there was they there was

1481
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:29,840
another incident in 1986, but
I'm going to let the documentary

1482
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,800
tell you.
Oh, that's probably the.

1483
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,000
One, I don't even know what that
was.

1484
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:44,480
The Grand Schwabini is watching.
To be honest, you know, I only

1485
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:48,040
put this on this the I only put
this on this week because I

1486
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,840
thought one of you guys was
going to do your friends and

1487
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,720
neighbors.
Yeah, no, I don't think I've

1488
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,640
watched the last I.
Didn't finish it.

1489
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,160
I have completed.
I have one more episode to go.

1490
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,840
Yeah, maybe we should.
We should all do it together,

1491
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,520
like in two weeks.
I love that.

1492
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,240
Yeah, we'll talk about that on
the show.

1493
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:11,320
Yeah, so I just finished the
third season of the 100 foot

1494
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,920
wave 3rd.
Season.

1495
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,040
Yep, third season.
Fun.

1496
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,520
I missed the fun Max.
Well, you don't pay a lot of

1497
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,440
attention to surfing.
I don't have Max right now.

1498
01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:21,840
Yeah, you're not a big surf.
Why don't you?

1499
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,680
Have Max right now.
I you know what, I just when I

1500
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,560
switched over the streaming
services, it was one that I just

1501
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,600
forgot the up, re up.
Are you done with cable you got

1502
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,280
rid of like the Verizon direct?
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm on YouTube

1503
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,000
TV now, OK?
I'm a full time streamer.

1504
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,240
Awesome.
So, yeah, this this guy right

1505
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:44,760
here is his name is Garrett.
He's kind of like the legendary

1506
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,760
big wave surfer.
He kind of made it as, you know,

1507
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:55,000
mission to, you know, surf the
biggest wave that you humanly

1508
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,280
could.
He he discovered this place

1509
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,960
called Nazare in Portugal.
That's, you know, this really

1510
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,680
incredible site where there's
like a a Cliff with a big

1511
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,520
lighthouse on top of the Cliff
and, and these waves just come

1512
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,920
crashing in.
And he he in the first season,

1513
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,440
like I believe he does set like
the record with, you know, the,

1514
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,120
the, the, the documented tallest
wave.

1515
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,520
Yeah, but I don't, I don't, I
can't remember off the top of my

1516
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:26,920
head.
I don't think it was quite 100

1517
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,840
feet.
I think it was maybe like in the

1518
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,760
80s or something.
And but you know, like, so

1519
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,760
everybody's, you know, everybody
in the, in the world, a big wave

1520
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,800
surfing is looking for the 100
foot wave.

1521
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,720
And basically in this, in this
show, you get to see all these

1522
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,840
different places where you could
potentially find that wave.

1523
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,600
You know, there's a couple
places in Hawaii, 1 is called

1524
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:54,280
Mavericks and another one is
called Jaws.

1525
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,720
And they're just these huge wave
places in Hawaii.

1526
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,240
There's a, this last season
there was a place in like

1527
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:05,880
Morocco and there was also a
place that was really wild.

1528
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,280
It was like in the middle of the
ocean with like no shoreline or

1529
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,320
anything.
Like nice waves just hit in the

1530
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,720
middle of the ocean.
I bet the cinema talk was

1531
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,560
incredible.
Yeah, it's, it's really awesome.

1532
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,240
And you know, and you know, the
other part of it, you learn a

1533
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,760
little bit about the history of
surfing.

1534
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,200
Like there's some, like in this
season, they, they talked about

1535
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,680
this thing called the Eddy.
There's some famous surfer named

1536
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,920
Eddie who, you know, was one of
the best big wave surfers ever.

1537
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,040
And every year they have the
Eddie tournament.

1538
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,160
But the interesting thing about
it is, is that it's not every

1539
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:45,160
year because they only do it if
the swell is just right.

1540
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,720
So they might do it like every
six years, you know, and this

1541
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,560
was a year that where they did
it, you know, And so you know,

1542
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,720
it, it's just really cool.
I mean, there's a lot of like

1543
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,480
stuff in it about, you know,
like, you know, relationships in

1544
01:16:59,480 --> 01:17:04,240
the surfing community and and
you know, the dangers of it and

1545
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,800
all that kind of stuff.
But it's pretty cool.

1546
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,720
It's like peaceful, you know,
just to watch, You know, when

1547
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,760
you're watching people go
through barrels, it's cool.

1548
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,720
Is this a hobby you're going to
take up?

1549
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,720
It's not because.
Does it make you want to go out

1550
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,800
there and ride one?
It doesn't.

1551
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:24,880
But what you have to understand
is I don't want to go out and

1552
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,880
get knee high deep in the ocean.
I'm I'm a big believer that it's

1553
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,000
not our place.
It's definitely not.

1554
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:33,800
You know.
Told us this a couple years.

1555
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,520
Ago I get it.
I understand.

1556
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,600
The sharks, it's for the sharks.
And you know if they.

1557
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,320
Use a place for the sharks.
If they want to, you know, take

1558
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,080
a bite of my leg because it
seems like a sandwich to them, I

1559
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,120
understand.
I get.

1560
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,760
Come up on shore to get you.
I get it, I get it.

1561
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,480
So yeah, I'm a little afraid in
the water.

1562
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,600
Not when I was younger, though.
When I was younger, man, I was

1563
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,880
like body surfing, boogie board
surfing, you know?

1564
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,560
100 I'm glad you grew up.
Yeah, yeah, A. 100 Foot Wave

1565
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:04,680
season 3 just completed on Max
the Grand Schwab beanie HJ

1566
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,080
brings to the table something he
just.

1567
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,960
Is this a movie, my friend?
Yeah, this is the movie

1568
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,320
documentary.
OK documentary, good for you.

1569
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,120
This is called.
Ice Guardians, I believe I was I

1570
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,680
was watching it on Prime, but
I'm not really sure because it

1571
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,520
was something that I I hit the
button for the record.

1572
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,560
So it just recorded it.
But this is actually not new.

1573
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,480
This is that this is actually an
old documentary.

1574
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:36,600
It was filmed in 19/20/16 and it
was this guy that has a website,

1575
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:41,200
hockeyfights.com and he, he
interviewed a lot of those guys

1576
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,160
you're looking at now, Wendell
Clark, Dave Somenko, Joey

1577
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,000
Coaster, Dave Schultz, the old
flyer.

1578
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:49,800
And they, they interviewed Brett
Hall.

1579
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,720
I don't know why they
interviewed Brett Hall, but I,

1580
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,360
I, I think it was because they
wanted to get the skaters point

1581
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:58,280
of view about fighting and how
they, how they protect the guys.

1582
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:03,520
And I think this is if you, if
you like hockey and you have

1583
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,240
want to have a debate about
whether fighting should be in or

1584
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,040
out of hockey, I'm agnostic
about this.

1585
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,720
I think it's part of the game.
So I don't think you're ever

1586
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,200
going to get rid of it.
But they've talked, they talk

1587
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,320
about how it's changed.
And it's interesting how they

1588
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:22,360
bring up Sydney's Cindy Sidney
Crosby's name over and over and

1589
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,480
over again about how many how
many concussions he's had

1590
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,000
because he hasn't had an
enforcer on his team and, and,

1591
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,440
and guys just don't have the
same code that they had back in

1592
01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:35,960
the day.
Now back in the day, defending,

1593
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,200
depending on how far back you
go, it was very common that

1594
01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:41,800
everybody would come, come off
the bench and just fight.

1595
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,640
Right, right, right.
Right, I I actually, I actually

1596
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,760
remember that I.
I don't I think it's good that

1597
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,960
that's gotten out of the game.
And they had really good insight

1598
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:52,920
about the Broad St.
Bullies, which I think you would

1599
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:53,920
like, Mark.
Oh, yeah.

1600
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,040
About how they how they came to
be.

1601
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,240
And they said that a lot of this
happened and I'm going to bring

1602
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,400
this back to an end.
A lot of this happened when they

1603
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,600
went from six teams to 12 teams
because.

1604
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,960
That there wasn't enough talent
out there to play, so they had

1605
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:15,880
to bring these enforcers in to
play the play the game and what

1606
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,960
has happened throughout time in
into the 80s, guys got really

1607
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,720
good at playing the game and
they could fight.

1608
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,120
So I think that's why you're
seeing expansion.

1609
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,840
I think they want to, I think
they want to throwback to some

1610
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,000
more guys that can fight and be
tough and score.

1611
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,840
And there are a lot of fast
skaters now, and it can be

1612
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,040
dangerous if you hit them the
wrong way.

1613
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,760
And they're basically say that
fighting is a way to minimize

1614
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,480
that.
They don't say it takes it.

1615
01:20:43,480 --> 01:20:46,760
They don't say it takes it away.
But I suggest, if you love

1616
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,040
hockey, if your wife likes
hockey, the part, this is the

1617
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,840
perfect movie for you guys.
Hour, hour and a half, you will

1618
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,240
be you.
You'll just love the way these

1619
01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:00,720
guys talk about fighting and
what it means to them in in in

1620
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,560
the NHL.
Ice.

1621
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:03,480
Ice.
Interesting.

1622
01:21:03,480 --> 01:21:05,200
Yeah.
It's a great, it's a great

1623
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,600
documentary and actually the the
counselor never even saw this

1624
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:09,600
one either.
Oh, really?

1625
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,800
Yeah, maybe he'll watch it.
Maybe we'll hear from him.

1626
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:22,120
Maybe.
Has been the Sports Sports black

1627
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,000
and gold edition all over the
world.

1628
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,080
Pat.
Thank you for Pat off track

1629
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,840
once.
Again, yes, it was Pat, but

1630
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,440
that's a whole nother
documentary.

1631
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,600
It is so I want to thank
everybody for watching us live.

1632
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,320
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1633
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,240
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1634
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,520
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1635
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,200
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1636
01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:50,240
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1637
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1638
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,560
And I'm going to drop the
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1639
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,480
So you can listen to it on the
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1640
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:02,920
Spotify, or anywhere you get
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1641
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:09,360
We'll see you next week with
Mike Duderich, our golf expert

1642
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,880
for the Grand Schwabini.
I'm your technical director.

1643
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:17,880
That's HJ.
We're out, Blonsk.

1644
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:19,720
Blonsk.