STEELERS BLAME GAME - WHO'S AT FAULT? PENGUINS LOOK TO START THE SEASON STRONG

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Oh my God, here we go again.

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Oh, boys, some boys, boys, look
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Somethings wrong?
Look at that.

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Jesus, you think we would be?
Ready for this?

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I said.
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You got you know what?
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I.

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Blame the Steelers.
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That's where all of our contents
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long run for the most part.
So what are we going to do

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tonight?
Well, on on Thursday night, we

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kind of broke the game down
emotionally like a lot of us

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did.
And tonight I thought, well, the

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dust is settled now.
It sure has settled.

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You know, and and we're looking
towards a Sunday night game,

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which we're going to preview, of
course, at Akreshire Stadium.

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So we come to a home game
familiar field, but the Packers

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are coming into town.
So we're going to break that

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game down.
Are the Packers really is good?

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I mean, they definitely don't
look as good as they did in the

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first couple games, but we'll
get into that.

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We're going to do the blame
game.

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We're going to compare stats of
the big guys, you know, TJ, Cam

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Hayward, JPJ, Aaron Rodgers.
What did they look like last

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year after the first six games?
There is a little wrinkle in

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there and I think you all know
what it is and you know who's to

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blame.
Really.

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How are they going to fix it?
How are they going to fix it?

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And as always, we want your
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We want you to chime in.
That's what we do here.

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You know, combined 150 years of
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friends.
Yes, we did crack the death code

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and and we tell it like we see
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We're not insiders, you know, we
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That's what we want to do with
you.

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So let's start this discussion.
I'm going to start it off by

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saying who's to blame?
TJ Warren, 2024 versus 2025, the

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first six games.
I'm actually I, I I did this on

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Canva guys.
Look at that canvas.

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Great.
I love it.

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Yeah.
Amazing, really well done.

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Who's to who's to blame?
So TJ Watt, first six games in

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2024, he had 33 tackles versus
2521 solo versus ten, 6 1/2

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sacks versus 4 this year,
obviously 2 force fumbles, one

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this year and then one both
years.

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So as you know, you look at that
and you say through the first

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six games of last year versus
this year, has he fallen off?

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And I would say yes, a little.
His solo tackles are down a lot

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of times.
That's against the run.

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Right.
His sacks are down, but look,

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six games, 4 sacks.
That's not an elite level.

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I think he's 9th in the league
in sacks right now.

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So he's producing from that 11
stat on.

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There is interceptions.
He does have one interception

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this year I believe.
Yeah, the one that Hayward

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tipped.
Yeah, the tipped.

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Which wasn't.
It was an interception.

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So but TJ Watt, how, how do you
guys feel about now?

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And, and again, I'm not sitting
here saying TJ Watt is the

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problem.
I'm saying let's look at TJ Watt

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and Cam Hayward.
They're the stalwarts on

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defense, right, Last year versus
this year.

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So let's talk about TJ Watt.
You guys go ahead and go ahead

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and chime in.
I'll keep an eye on the

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comments.
Well, I, I would say that he's

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dropped off a little bit, but
he's still within range to have

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what would be a typical season
for him maybe.

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And I do feel like he's come on
a little bit of late.

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I guess the the negative, if I
would point out one negative is

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it seems like the games in which
they lose, he's not doing much

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in those games.
You know that that's that's so

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it's like, you know, he's kind
of making an impact, you know, I

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mean, like what the record's
four and two.

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Four and two that's.
Right.

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So like you know that he's
making a wreck, he's basically

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making an impact 2/3 of the time
and when they don't win, he's

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not really making an impact.
That's kind of, I think it's a

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voice of reason type comment.
Yeah, it's hard for me to have

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emotion about TJ Watt because
he's just not been the TJ Watt,

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you know where he was defensive
player of the year, right,

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Right.
So I, and not that I would

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expect that from him this year,
to be honest with you, because

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their whole defense is just
gotten better.

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The one thing I have noticed,
even though his sacks are down,

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the Steelers are as a as a as a
team this year, third in the

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league in sacks with 22.
The Broncos are killing it and

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the Rams are are right behind
them.

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But I think I think he's made
other guys better.

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Like I think he's made her big
better.

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I think he's made high Smith
better.

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I'm not so sure about the the
middle, middle ground.

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And as far as the tackles go,
that's that's so hard to say

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because it's like how many times
do they run at him?

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How many times they run against
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And I know last year, for
example, they weren't running

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towards him very much at all.
This year, I think, I think they

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are running more towards him.
But I'm not disappointed in his

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play, let's put it that way.
I'm not, I'm not impressed with

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his play either.
So I think overall, you know,

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I'm looking at TJ Watt and I'm
saying he's not, I don't think

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he's the problem on defense, but
I think he could help by getting

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more sacks and getting more
pressures and and just causing a

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little bit more chaos in in the
quarterback against the

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quarterback.
I think that's been less from

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just a touchy feely standpoint.
Yeah, and how about yourself?

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There.
Well, Theodore, Chris.

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Theodore.
Just came out.

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Chris Chotta chimes in.
Thanks Chris.

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Thanks for all those comments.
You leave on Spotify as well and

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and YouTube.
Really appreciate that guys.

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Yes we do except mine most of
the time.

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Seems like there's been no game
changing game saving plays by

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Watt like in the past there were
games where he saved the

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Steelers.
Now we all know that, and that's

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one of the things that the Grand
Swabini's been talking about for

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the last at least three years,
maybe longer, that the Steelers

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defense has thrived on the
splash play.

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They're the splash play defense.
The way I see it is the splash

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play over the long run is not
going to win ball games for you

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all the time you have,
especially when you have a very,

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very bad run defense or pass
defense or both, which right now

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we seem to have.
And I, I think TJ, I'm going to,

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I'm going to say it here, maybe
he's playing a little bit nicked

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up.
You know, God knows six games

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in, everybody's got a bump and a
bruise at least.

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But it looks to me like he may
have lost a step.

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That's what it looks like to me.
And and it wouldn't be

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surprising considering his age
and the toll on his body.

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I don't for one second think
that he's not playing 100%

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meaning giving that effort.
No doubt, no doubt.

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But I don't see him when I watch
him get off the ball and really

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take a first step because I
tried to pay attention to him

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during the Bengals game because
I was very concerned.

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If they don't get the Flacco, we
know what he's going to do.

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And it did not seem to me like
his first step, first and second

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step were had as much speed to
him and as much power.

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He just doesn't seem to be
getting there.

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And the only reason I bring this
up other than all the obvious

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reasons is that the Bengals
offensive line was supposed to

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be really bad.
Really bad.

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So, you know, let's say he had
one sack in the game.

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You know, not the didn't he?
He took part in a late sack.

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Yeah.
Yeah, I think, I think it was a

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split, Yeah.
It was one of those half where

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it was like the guy was already
going and going down and I.

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I actually, I actually don't
think he got credit for that.

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But anyway, it doesn't matter.
You know, if he had gotten say 2

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sacks in the game, but they had
still lost, you know, those

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sacks, you know you would he did
his part.

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So when people say he doesn't do
his part, it's not that he's not

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doing his part.
I think he's just, I think he's

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lost a step.
And I, I'm, my fear is that

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we're going to see more of this
throughout the year because he's

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not going to get he, he's only
going to get more tired.

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Here is Amy May who has made her
way over to YouTube.

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Very good.
Thank you, Amy.

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Amy, welcome to YouTube.
I think he is part of the

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problem.
Plus he needs to play more.

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He's always on the side, not on
the field.

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Well, she does watch the games
with me, guys.

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So she does.
What's going?

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On and I always I always pointed
out.

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That's like, why is he not in?
Why is he not in?

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Down and it's eight yeah.
Why is he not in there trying to

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get to the?
Corner or or it's like, or it's

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like the other team had the ball
for 8 minutes.

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Why is he not in on 1st down
when they when you know it's

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just crazy.
So wait a minute, what?

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What you're.
Doing I'm.

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Basically saying you're the one
pointing it out and she's just

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commenting.
No, I think she's got got a mind

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of her own.
OK, thank you.

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I was, I was trying to defend
you there.

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Amy.
I I was going to say no, this

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sounds like Amy made this
observation.

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But of course, yeah, last week
Steve mentioned it, you know, HJ

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after the well, not last week
after the game on Thursday, HJ

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actually said to himself, you
know, or said to us, you know,

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why is TJ on the not on the
field on 1st and 2nd down in the

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first quarter?
You know, it's like it it is he

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gassed already?
What's going on?

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That leads me to think that
maybe, just maybe there's

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something else going on there.
Now, admittedly, this week I

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didn't pay as much attention to
the injury reports and and all

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that other stuff.
So I don't know if they're

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talking about it behind the
scenes or not.

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But at the same time, yeah, I I,
I definitely think that.

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I think he's lost the step that
that's me.

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Mike Lawrence is in the house.
What is up, Mike?

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He's over on YouTube.
Thanks for going there, Mike.

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How can the defense allow Chase
to catch 16 balls?

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I've seen critics blame Terrell
Austin.

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Others say it's not his fault
Since Tomlin calls the defense

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thoughts.
Also seems like no adjustments.

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Let's let's get to that, You
know, let's we want to push that

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down.
Let's move on to Cam Hayward.

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How about?
That OK, the first, the first

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Amy does say that she makes many
observations.

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Oh, we know Mark.
We know she's a very observant

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lady.
A very, very observant lady.

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So who's to blame?
We want to know.

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We want to know.
Cam Hayward 2024 versus 2025

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Let's put these stats up here.
202438 tackles, 16 solo, 3

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sacks, no fumbles forced to
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20/25/19 tackles, 11 solo, 1 1/2
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Starting with me again, did you?
Well, and you forgot to put down

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his 12 batted balls.
That's probably does. 12 Yeah,

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they don't have that.
They don't have that.

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On the ESPN.
Stats, But yeah, so, so I I look

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at that and I say 100% he's got
half the tackles, right?

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You know, a little over 1/4
solo, the 1 1/2 sacks.

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I mean, he's a defensive
lineman.

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You're not looking for him to
have 6 sacks at this point in

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the year.
Not bad and he did force a

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fumble so but his his play is
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He looks gassed a lot.
I'm going to say the same thing

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for me about Cam Hayward, I
think.

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And and we could talk all we
want about how we kind of held

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them hostage at the beginning of
the year and all that bullshit.

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Of course, I think he gives
100%, but I think 100% at this

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point just ain't going to do it
anymore.

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We're not going to see the Cam
Hayward.

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We'll see flashes, we'll see
flashes, but we're not going to

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see that.
Can't Cam Hayward of years ago?

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I think him and Watt have kind
of aged, started to age

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themselves out.
How about you, Schwaber?

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Well I mean look the the stats
tell the story that that he is

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not the same player he was last
year.

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Although I will give a caveat
that he basically did not

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participate in any pre season at
all.

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This is true.
So, you know, you could almost

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look at the first six games of
this year as his pre season

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getting into game shape, you
know.

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So I'll kind of wait to see if
he picks it up a little bit, but

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it's not going to surprise me if
he doesn't.

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I just think, you know, I think
for for whatever reason, he

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really was an excellent player
last year.

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I mean, which was kind of
surprising at his age.

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I mean, that's why they they got
him to sign a not so great deal

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really, because he didn't play
that great the year before,

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right, right.
But and so last year was kind of

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a surprise.
It was like, you know, he went

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into the fountain of youth or
something.

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I think just this year it's,
it's just kind of that was sort

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of like a, a mirage or an
anomaly last year.

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And he's easily, yeah.
And he's just kind of back to

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just, you know, an aging guy
who's, who's just up there in

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years and just doesn't have, you
know, the same burst or the same

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stamina.
So I, I think, I think he's a

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guy who you could certainly say
has, has lost a step.

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That's why he's putting his
hands up all the time to bat the

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balls down, right?
Yeah, 'cause he's nowhere near

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the.
Quarterback, right, but I will

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say he is very good at that.
He does he does get in the lane.

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I mean, he is watching the
quarterback's eyes and he's and

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he's trying to time that I do.
I do think that's his best

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attribute.
But I absolutely agree with you,

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Mark, I, I don't, I don't think
that he's going to be getting

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any better this year.
I think the only saving grace is

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he won't be playing as much
because of of the guys that we

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got on that interior line now.
Yeah, yeah, Black and.

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You mean you mean YA?
I'm never saying why, why, I

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don't care.
It's yeah, yeah.

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Because I heard ya ya.
And that's what I'm going to

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say.
And if you don't like it, tough

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shit, OK?
OK, he's feisty.

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All right is that is that?
Good enough for you?

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I think he's been.
Staying up too late doing these.

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Hockey Jesus.
No, there's no such thing as

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staying up too late for hockey,
you know?

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That.
Anyway, so, so as far as Hayward

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goes, I mean, he's he's over the
hill.

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I mean, I, I was frankly shocked
by his play last year.

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And I eat some krill because I
said he's never going to be good

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again.
And he was very good last year,

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but he's not showing it this
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I think it is a regression to
the norm and his norm is just

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mat up the middle.
The one thing that I noticed

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last year that I'm not noticing
this year is when he was in

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there, the run just got stopped.
I mean, there's nobody could run

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through that line when he was in
there.

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Yeah, they could run through
almost anywhere Now it seems

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like they they when when there's
holes, they're big holes.

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So I haven't, no, I haven't been
paying enough attention to see

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if it's when Hayward was in
there.

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But I can tell you on some of
those runs by Brown on Thursday,

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Hayward was absolutely chasing
him and him down.

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And I think, I think that's a
problem moving forward because

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of, you know, all the problems
they're having in the secondary

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right now.
But I think it's not something

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that can be fixed by him.
Yeah, I agree.

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I agree.
What are your comments?

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How do you feel about this?
Cam Hayward, TJ Watt?

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I think all three of us kind of
said they're over the hill and

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maybe that's the reason.
All right, Next up on our list,

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who's to blame?
Now this is a very controversial

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1 I think within the sports
porch, the studios.

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Put your helmet on.
And I, I, I think it's also

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controversial outside Teddy
Belcher 4K ultra wide.

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Is that what you're watching us
on there, Teddy?

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49ers GO-13 games without 1
interception and the Steelers

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defense still cries more Yeah I
I I'm not sure I.

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Think he's saying we get a, we
get a lot of, we get a lot of

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turnovers, and yet we're still
crying about.

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Our OH.
Yeah, Yeah.

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Well.
He's he's not yard not wrong.

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Yards and points count too,
though.

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The ones, the one, Teddy,
welcome to the porch.

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It's good to have you.
The one thing the one thing

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about the Steelers is we always
have such a high level of

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performance because their
defense is the most expensive

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defense in the league.
So we we don't, we don't expect

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the offense to score 35 points
and then the defense to give up

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36 points.
I mean, we just expect our

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defense to only give up less
than 20 points every game and

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get a turnover almost every
game.

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So that's just the way we're
built here in Pittsburgh.

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Teddy, I don't know if you're a
Steelers fan or a Niners fan.

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Other way.
That's why I think we cry a lot.

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And that's, that's an excellent,
excellent explanation because

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it's true highest paid defense
in the league like you expect

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and you have the right to expect
as a fan and as an owner and as

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a coach, that that defense is
going to perform one hell of a

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lot better than it's performing
now.

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Takeaways or not, that run
defense is absolutely atrocious.

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And of course, it affects
everything out Cam, he has a

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follow up Cam.
Cam Hayward can't be trusted to

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drive the kids to school with
just 15,000,000.

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Yeah, exactly.
He got that right.

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Look, he played them OK.
We could use some bus drivers

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around here.
Maybe, maybe that's a good,

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that's a good second, second job
for him.

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Ted, you.
Imagine yeah, he he'd get a lot

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of tips.
Hey, at least it would make for

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a good commercial.
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doing Steelers post game shows.
Last week's show, or Thursday's

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show was pretty damn good.
And pretty damn Oh my God.

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If I see another comment, if I
see another comment about Joey

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Porter being too handy, I'm
going to lose my.

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Shit, yeah.
And and that's exactly what

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we're going to do.
Right there goes Amy.

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Marvin Hamilton in the house,
Joey Porter needs a lot of

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coaching, 2 hands down his
coverage.

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And that's where we were going
to go.

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Who's to blame?
Now I want to caveat this by

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saying that when I started
thinking about the superstars on

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our defense, I didn't use Jalen
Ramsey because like, different

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team, completely different on
track.

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Hard to compare against last.
Hard to compare against last

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year.
I did do Aaron Rodgers though,

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because as a quarterback I I
think with the guy of his

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caliber and experience, you can
do that.

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But I use JPJ because he's
controversial right now coming

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out of college.
Really high ranked cornerback

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his first year.
Some struggles but showed signs

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of greatness.
Amy didn't see it that way

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during the draft.
She says they took Porter

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because his dad was a Steeler
and his type was Tom.

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And that's probably very true,
so.

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There is some truth.
But but second year, last year

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did not make a big leap, and
this year does not look like

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he's making a very big leap
either.

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So he was.
JP, you're talking about people

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being hurt.
He was also hurt.

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That is the caveat that I spoke
about earlier.

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So I'm going to pull in this
2024 versus 2025 Ford PD with

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the caveat, of course, that he
was hurt for a couple games.

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202436 tackles, 27 solo, one
interception through the first

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six games, no fumbles. 2025
eleven tackles, 8 solo, no

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interceptions, no forced fumbles
or recoveries.

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You know I make less of this
because he was injured for was

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it 2 games or three?
He was not in the 1st.

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Three games, the first three
games, so this is really only a

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three-game sample.
So if you double it, he would

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have 2216 and one a little bit
less.

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My issue with JPJ is that I
think he I think he's handsy and

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I think he gets called and I
think they're starting to notice

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it.
Can that be taken away with

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coaching?
Maybe can we look at, you know,

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them playing Thursday night, TJ
Higgins or T Higgins and Jamar

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Chase and kind of give him a
little bit of a, a, you know,

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quote UN quote pass because of
that.

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I don't know that I want to give
him a pass because he's supposed

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to be a budding young superstar
corner for the Steelers and he

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seems to get schooled by a lot
of these elite receivers.

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And it's kind of like, at what
point are we going to see him

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step up and, and shut somebody
down for a game?

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00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,680
So I, I, I don't blame him
because it's only three games,

446
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,240
but I am starting to kind of, I,
I think the shine is starting to

447
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,120
come off of JPJ for people.
I think it is Schwaber.

448
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,280
You go first, because I know
Steve's got he's the HJZ back

449
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,560
opposite.
He's a, he's a, he's a JPJ

450
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,640
Homer.
I know he is.

451
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,120
Well, yeah, I mean here.
Here's the thing.

452
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:52,520
I mean, I, I do think that JPJ
has potential to be a very good

453
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,840
corner.
I, I think the problem is, is

454
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,560
that in the way he has started
playing from the beginning of

455
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:08,000
his career, he's gotten a
reputation as a guy who is

456
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,640
constantly, you know, giving a
pass interference, right?

457
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,040
So the refs are looking for it,
right.

458
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,200
And look, I mean, look, all, all
cornerbacks do the tug of the

459
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,800
jersey, you know, hand fight,
all that kind of stuff.

460
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,560
You in a way what you have to do
is number 1, you sort of have to

461
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,760
earn your right to not get
called for that.

462
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,280
And, and the way you do that, I
believe anyway, is you have to

463
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,080
pick and choose your spots.
Not to do that.

464
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,080
Yeah, you know, that, that you
have to let the ref see you play

465
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:49,520
a completely clean play and not
cause an interference for them

466
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,520
to start getting into their
minds that like, OK, you you've

467
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,960
learned you're not just grabbing
the receiver every single time

468
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,200
down down the field, Right.
Right.

469
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,800
And he that's the problem, for
whatever reason, nobody's really

470
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,840
getting through to his head that
you have to pick and choose your

471
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,920
spots.
I do think he can turn it around

472
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,720
and become a good player.
Now.

473
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,200
I don't I don't see him as like
a shutdown corner or anything

474
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,880
like that, but I see him as
being like a a real quality

475
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,880
cornerback.
If he can learn kind of like the

476
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,360
subtleties and the nuances, you
know, he really almost like

477
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,680
cast.
This has to become a veteran,

478
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,600
maybe even a little early so
that, you know, he gets the

479
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,440
benefit of non calls, you know,
and he has to do that by playing

480
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,320
some cleaner play.
If he does that, then I think

481
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,240
you'll start, you know, the the
calls will start being 5050 ish

482
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,920
instead of 100% of the time he
gets called.

483
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,920
That's that's what's going on
with him.

484
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,240
And you know, I just it's not
been an easy year because he's

485
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,560
missed a lot of time.
And I think he also do it does

486
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,760
probably feel the pressure
because, you know, technically

487
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,920
he's not really a starting
corner anymore with Ramsey and

488
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,120
Slay on the field.
So he's probably feeling like

489
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,440
he's got to do something, you
know, to, to make sure he's on

490
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760
the field.
So he might be, you know,

491
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,800
playing might be trying to do
too much would be the way to put

492
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,720
it.
And, and before HJ chimes in

493
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,760
here, I, I, I'd say that
bringing Ramsey and Slay and

494
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,680
that that had many purposes.
And one of those was probably to

495
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,880
they're veterans.
They're, you know, definitely

496
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,160
Hall of farmers.
They know how to get away with

497
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,000
this stuff and do exactly what
you're talking about.

498
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,200
So I'm willing to give him this
year as another year of growth

499
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,560
and, and see what what comes out
next year.

500
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,000
I'm not willing.
I'm not going to call it yet the

501
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,520
way that I that, that I am known
to call things.

502
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,400
But right now it just, it just
doesn't look like a whole lot of

503
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,000
progress between rookie year and
now.

504
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,040
So the floor's yours, HJ.
Well, I agree with what Mark

505
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,600
said.
I think, I think, you know, he

506
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,360
is getting a bad Rep, but I
disagree with what he said by

507
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,240
saying, you know, you got to
play hands off sometimes.

508
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,880
I think you got to play handsy
all the fucking time.

509
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,480
I, I, I think that the refs
aren't going to call it all the

510
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,320
time.
And if you look at, you know,

511
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,800
Sauce Gardner and these guys,
they're always putting their

512
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,840
hands on the guy.
The thing is, he's doing it a

513
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,440
little too much when the ball is
coming.

514
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,560
So that's where he's got to
stop.

515
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,280
He's got to stop when the ball's
in the air or coming towards the

516
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,560
receiver.
And that's what he has to learn.

517
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,320
But as far as being handsy, I
fucking love it.

518
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,920
I think a good quarterback,
cornerback knows how to how to

519
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,920
hold a receiver back from
getting open too far or making

520
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,040
that cut too quickly.
That gives them a distinct

521
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,320
advantage on the defense.
But they have to do it when the

522
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,960
refs aren't looking when the
ball is coming.

523
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,120
It's not the time to do it.
And and just just so we can be

524
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,920
fair about this, when Joey
Porter was was drafted, he was

525
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,520
drafted with Devin Witherspoon,
Christian Gonzalez, Deonte Bank

526
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,480
in Emmanuel Forbes.
Do you know any other these guys

527
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,160
besides maybe Witherspoon?
Christian Gonzalez.

528
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,680
Yeah, the guy from the Patriots
is like a Pro Bowl or anything.

529
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,600
Yeah.
Yeah, well, he only has one

530
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:27,600
interception and his past
defenses are one seventh of what

531
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,240
JP Junior does.
So the the problem is, is I

532
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,800
think also is quarterbacks are
throwing to JP JS side.

533
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,160
They're not afraid to to throw
it to his side.

534
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,320
And that's putting it, that's
putting it in a disadvantage

535
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,480
because let's face it, if they
threw to you 6 times, you're

536
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,680
probably going to get a pass
interference one of those six

537
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,680
times.
It's just the way, it's just the

538
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,000
odds of of the game.
So what he has to do is he's got

539
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,880
it.
He's got to be more blanketed

540
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,840
and handsy so that the guy
doesn't look open in the

541
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,480
quarterback.
So he's not throwing his way.

542
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,600
I think he's playing it the
opposite way and, and I think

543
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,160
that's, that's where he's
getting mixed up.

544
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,720
I think, I think he's been an
excellent pick for the Steelers.

545
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,200
I don't think I agree with you.
I don't think he's going to be a

546
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,000
sauce gardener.
I don't think he's going to be

547
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,960
one of these shutdown corners.
But I think he's I think he's

548
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,040
great for what the Steelers
drafted him in the position they

549
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080
drafted him in.
And I, I you can't convince me

550
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,800
otherwise.
Well, I mean, the the one, the

551
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,520
one thing I would disagree with
you on, though, is that I don't

552
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,960
think you have to be handsy on
every single play.

553
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,240
I mean, there there's times like
if you watch Jalen Ramsey, he he

554
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,240
will jump a route and dive and
bat the ball down with one hand

555
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,080
and he really doesn't touch the
receiver.

556
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,320
You know, I mean, there there
are guys who like, you know,

557
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,600
slay.
He might cover a a deep pattern

558
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,760
and you know, the ball hits the
hands of the receiver and then

559
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,880
he punches it out.
You know what I mean?

560
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,240
So that like there is a way to
play.

561
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,320
It's not like you're playing
soft, but you, you know, you're,

562
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,120
you're just like, you know,
you're right there.

563
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,320
The timing is just right there.
And his timing always seems to

564
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,240
be a little bit too in front of
of, you know, it's just it's a

565
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,080
half a second in front of where
it should be.

566
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,760
I think that's, I think in a way
that's, that's exactly, I think

567
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,760
in a way that's exactly what
Steve was talking about.

568
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,800
I think what he's saying is what
I'm hearing at least, is you

569
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,920
love the contacts, but you wish
he would time it better because

570
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,480
if you're if you're contacting
them while the ball's in the

571
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,880
air, that's the greatest amount
of time for that ref to notice

572
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,000
it.
But if you can time it correctly

573
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,080
and your contact hits like the
one pass that Jalen Ramsey

574
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,720
defended on Chase where at the
very last second he dove in

575
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,800
there with his right hand and
tip the ball away.

576
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,320
He did have his arm around the
back of him and there was

577
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,000
contact, but that contact pretty
pretty much happened at the time

578
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,800
the ball, I think.
It was like the exact same time.

579
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,520
So it's so I think I think what
you're saying is he needs to

580
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,160
learn that.
And that goes right back to my

581
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,600
point about perhaps I'm willing
to give him this year of growth

582
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,440
because, you know, so some of
those guys are in his ear.

583
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,080
Like you got to be better.
You got to be better at reading

584
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,760
the route.
You got to be better at timing

585
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,320
the ball.
You got to be better at arriving

586
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,960
right at the right time.
And look, that takes a lot of

587
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,520
skill and effort, no doubt about
that.

588
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:30,280
So I don't think JPJ is bad.
I just don't think he is where

589
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920
we expected him to be a Steelers
fans.

590
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,520
And I don't think he was a bad
draft pick.

591
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,120
He was in need.
I think he's expected where we

592
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,040
expected him.
What?

593
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,880
What did you, what did you
expect in the beat a shutdown

594
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,480
corner?
Well, I mean, he was.

595
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,480
Was he like the second pick in
the in the second round?

596
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,200
32 I'm he was #32.
Is that the first round?

597
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,400
Yeah.
So he was a first round pick.

598
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,560
I don't know.
It's like second round early.

599
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,800
Second round was He was the
first pick of the second round.

600
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,800
I mean, I think like, look, I
mean, here's the bottom line.

601
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,480
When you're picked in the first
half of the second round, the

602
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,400
good teams are picking players
who turn out to be Pro Bowlers

603
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,920
at that spot.
That's what they're hoping.

604
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,200
That's what.
They're hoping.

605
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,600
Right, right.
But what I'm saying is he's not

606
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,920
there yet.
Yeah, and I don't, I don't think

607
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,560
he's there either.
And and I seem to remember.

608
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,280
I seem to remember and I'll,
I'll tell you what, I, I will

609
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,680
not be able to go back and find
it.

610
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,080
I, you know what?
I might, I swear to God when

611
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,400
they were drafting JPJ, he was
calling him a shut down corner.

612
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,960
I I swear to God I remember
having a conversation on the

613
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,640
porch.
No, no, stop making shit up.

614
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,880
There we go.
You just you just made something

615
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,760
up that make me sound bad and
you have no proof of it at all.

616
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,600
So just stop that shit right
now.

617
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760
Just stop it, OK?
Every time and.

618
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,800
That this is this is what you're
saying, loser?

619
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,120
Every time.
That'll be a loser every time

620
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,480
you.
Can't even hear.

621
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,800
It.
I know, I know.

622
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,120
I'm trying.
I'm trying.

623
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,840
Terrible.
Don't even play that again.

624
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,320
It's terrible.
Stay in your lane.

625
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,760
Oh.
Boy, oh boy, let's let's.

626
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,639
See what happens when I do this?
Is that a little bit?

627
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,080
That's a.
Little bit better, a little

628
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,560
better a.
Little better.

629
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,760
Don't worry, I.
If you got to play, if you got

630
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,760
to play it three times, it's
not.

631
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,880
Good.
OK, so So what?

632
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,239
What?
So what we're looking at here is

633
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,600
you could see how we kind of
debate this JPJ thing all the

634
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,960
time, but it's a debate that
fans are having all the time.

635
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,840
You listen to sports radio, you
watch some of these other shows,

636
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,400
listen to the podcast, you get
the same stuff.

637
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,800
You get people that are, you
know, I hear people that are

638
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,760
more disappointed than than on
Steve's side.

639
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,560
But but it's not that they're
sides, but I think this year has

640
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,000
to be a year of growth for him
or than it is a bad pick.

641
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,679
I did say when he was picked
that it was a Homer pick.

642
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,560
Then I didn't like him for that
reason.

643
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,280
That was true immediately.
Which is why I'm kind of a fan

644
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,640
now, because his his rookie year
he played really well and I

645
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,440
think he's still playing at that
level.

646
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,840
So I, I don't understand the
angst about him.

647
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,800
I mean, I just don't get it.
Well, here's here's the angst

648
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,760
about him.
The angst about him is, you

649
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,640
know, he's pretty much dialing
up about two or three.

650
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,480
P IS a game and they always seem
to be at a really bad time.

651
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,840
And so it's really easy to
pinpoint him as the problem.

652
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,200
And that's that's what it is.
I mean, you're probably right in

653
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,240
the fact that outside of those
two or three plays, he's playing

654
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:32,680
well.
Like he, he, he, I mean, he did

655
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,480
in the last game.
He had a really nice play on a

656
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,880
ball.
I saw you pointed it out.

657
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,680
But you know, like when, when
you lose a game by like one

658
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,200
point or three points or
whatever it is, and drives have

659
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,080
continued because he's the one
who's getting the Pi.

660
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,040
That's why everybody's blaming
him.

661
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,960
Yeah.
I actually have more problem

662
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,600
with the with the holding
penalties.

663
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,640
I hate, I hate the holding
penalties.

664
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,680
Like to me.
On the corners or yeah.

665
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:03,840
Just in general, because those,
you know, you may be holding

666
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,320
somebody who's on the opposite
side of the field who's maybe

667
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,320
not in, not even in the play,
but you think they're going to

668
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,880
be in the play.
So you hold them.

669
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,520
The only time you should hold
somebody is if they're going for

670
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,840
a touchdown and they're behind
you and they're going to,

671
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,280
they're going to beat your ass.
That's when you grab them and

672
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,240
and you pull them down.
But this, this handsy stuff in

673
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:27,000
the 510 yard mark when they're
not even going to get a first

674
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,840
down.
That's where I have the problem

675
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,240
with the hands.
All right, all right, JPJ, your,

676
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,960
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686
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695
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,640
OK, when Utah says jump, we say
how high.

696
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,600
That's right.
So.

697
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,480
When you're wanted, you're
wanted.

698
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:41,480
Mike Lawrence on YouTube says on
his stats, how many flags are

699
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,640
you looking that up?
Now you want to look that up.

700
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,760
I don't I don't know where.
To look.

701
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,960
I don't think they even have
that.

702
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,080
Now just just Google how many,
how many penalties does Joey

703
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Porter Junior have this year?
And it'll pop up.

704
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,760
It'll pop up.
So we'll get to that question in

705
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,960
a second.
Now, I think Chris Chotta had a

706
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:03,720
question about here about the OR
Mike Lawrence said about the

707
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,840
defense.
Tomlin calls the defense, let's

708
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,240
do this and then we'll do the
Aaron Rodgers comparison because

709
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,840
that's offense.
So way back when.

710
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,560
Mike Lawrence, thanks for being
here, buddy.

711
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,120
How can the defense allow Chase
to catch 16 balls?

712
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,720
I've seen critics explain
Terrell Austin.

713
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,400
Others say it's not his fault
since Tomlin calls the defense

714
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,200
thoughts.
Also seems like no adjustments.

715
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,160
One of the biggest pet peeves
HGHJ has had is it does look

716
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,680
like no adjustments.
I, I personally just think that

717
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,840
the defense scheme is just
horrible that, that I, I, I

718
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,880
mean, that's the way I feel.
So HJ you want to take it from

719
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,640
there?
What?

720
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,160
What are we talking about?
Yeah.

721
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,320
Oh, you were looking up?
Yeah, I was looking up

722
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,440
passenger.
I'll, I'll let Schwaber talk

723
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,960
about, you know how, how do you
feel about Mike Lawrence's

724
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,520
comment?
You're talking about defensive,

725
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,400
Yeah.
No, I I mean, look, I don't know

726
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,840
who's to blame if it's Terrell
Austin or Mike Tomlin, either

727
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,000
way, let's just say they're both
to blame, OK?

728
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,160
I mean, they're, you know,
they're both in charge of the

729
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,560
defense and the defense was
looking like Swiss cheese.

730
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,520
But what was more concerning
than anything was that you have

731
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,920
a guy who's, you know, setting
career highs in, in that game

732
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,240
and you're not, you never did
anything different the whole

733
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:26,520
game.
And even in the last drive.

734
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,120
I mean, like the, the guys, like
there's no one within 5-10 yards

735
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,360
of them.
I, I mean, it's amazing.

736
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,840
It's just really, really
ridiculous.

737
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,520
I mean, I mean, look, it, it,
it's, it shouldn't be that hard.

738
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,920
I mean, look, obviously the zone
does not work against chase.

739
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,280
And you know what?
Maybe man to man doesn't either.

740
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,800
I don't think it does.
But at least you have a guy

741
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,720
within a yard of them, right?
You're supposed to be there,

742
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:58,520
right, right.
So, you know, if, if you just

743
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,800
take chase and you go man to man
and you have, you know, a safety

744
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,600
over the top for some help, you
know, and, and, and a safety

745
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,120
who's cheating towards him as
well, right?

746
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,560
Not just there to help anybody,
but pretty much just double

747
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,720
teaming chase, you know, then
you at least have some kind of.

748
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,720
Potential to take him out of the
play or out of the game right

749
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,360
You can you can say look, we'll
we'll live and die with T

750
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,120
Higgins beating us right right.
But yeah, you got to do

751
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,640
something.
I mean, there, there's no excuse

752
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:38,200
at all for, you know, Jamar
Chase to be left alone in, in

753
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,160
wide open space.
I mean, it, it's just, it's

754
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,400
that's just really terrible.
Yeah, coaching, I mean, it, it's

755
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,080
horrible.
I mean, and look, you don't it,

756
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,160
it doesn't even have to be a 1/2
time adjustment.

757
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,840
It could be a third quarter
adjustment.

758
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,960
I know you know what I mean.
You can make an adjustment any.

759
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,480
Whenever you want, whenever you
want, right?

760
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,280
So yeah, I I agree.
I just terrible.

761
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,480
Todd Ross joining us on
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762
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,160
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764
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,120
every Monday night at 7:00 PM.
He says the short slam was

765
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,640
killing them the entire game.
Yeah, at at one point I even

766
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,280
said, is somebody going to, you
know, I'm waiting for somebody

767
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,360
to jump that slant route.
I mean, it's so damn obvious.

768
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,000
And I think you're right.
I mean, the whole, the whole

769
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:27,400
Bill Belichick, you know, sauce
for victory basically was no

770
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,320
matter what, take away the other
team's number one player, let

771
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,080
the rest of the team let the
other players beat you.

772
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,360
But we're not going to let this
guy beat us.

773
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,640
And it's not that you don't have
capable players.

774
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,360
You can still get beat.
But to me, it looked like that

775
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,040
Tomlin's entire focus after that
press conference where he

776
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,080
basically, you know, let the
world know that he was super

777
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,960
pissed off that Joe Flacco got
traded to the Bengals in

778
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,600
division a week and a half
before he was supposed to play.

779
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:08,320
I feel like he he literally, you
know, tipped his hand in saying

780
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,760
that's what preoccupied him all
week because he's he was angry

781
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,880
enough to say it at a press
conference when really what he

782
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,840
should have been saying is it
doesn't really matter.

783
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,400
He's a he's another NFL
quarterback.

784
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,040
We've played against him before.
We'll play against him again.

785
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,200
We're game and planning for the
Bengals.

786
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,400
We don't care that it's Joe
Flacco.

787
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,280
Yeah.
And, and, and I really think

788
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,720
that he did focus on that and
that game plan.

789
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,160
He did not know who he wanted to
stop.

790
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,360
And and he looked at the run,
the rushing off and for the

791
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,760
Bengals and literally said
they're terrible.

792
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,400
I'm not worried about them.
Probably.

793
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,720
Even our terrible rush defense
is probably going to hold these

794
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:57,720
guys to something not bad.
And as far as Higgins and Chase

795
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:02,160
go, I don't know who to cover.
I don't know how to cover this

796
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,880
It it looked like to me that
that game plan was kind of a he

797
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,960
was completely confused.
And the reason you know that,

798
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,520
the reason I know it is look at
his face after they scored ten

799
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,840
quick points and then they
marched down the field and took

800
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,960
the lead every time they showed
Tomlins face, you know what I

801
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,200
saw?
Blanks there.

802
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:23,680
Yep, I saw my God, I did not
plan for this game at all.

803
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:31,000
I saw that in his face.
So I really think that that's

804
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,480
the big issue as far as Terrell
Austin goes.

805
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,960
Look, we don't really know how
much of the game planning on the

806
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,440
defensive side of the ball
Terrell Austin does or doesn't

807
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,040
do.
But I guarantee you he's highly

808
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,880
involved because he is the
defensive coordinator.

809
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,720
But he gets overridden by Tomlin
on a regular basis.

810
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,920
So I don't, I don't know that
you can lay any blame at his

811
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,520
feet other than, you know, if
he's agreeing with everything

812
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,520
and it's a bad scheme, then
yeah, he's just as much to

813
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,640
blame.
Yeah, I think he runs the

814
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,840
scheme, scheme that Tom wants
him to run.

815
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,680
And I agree with you 100% that
they weren't prepared for it.

816
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,480
Amy Jamar Chase didn't have 22
catches.

817
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,440
He had 22 targets, but still 22
targets for one wide receiver

818
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,120
means he's open quite a bit,
right.

819
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,000
And if he's and if the number
one wide receiver is open quite

820
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,920
a bit.
And it wasn't just it wasn't

821
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,560
just those slants that were
killing him was the yards after

822
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,200
the catch.
And then once they were kind of

823
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,480
in a zone where they were in the
in the space where he would be

824
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,280
in the slant, he would just keep
running across the field and

825
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,360
eventually be open.
And that's what happened in the

826
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,920
fourth quarter.
He just kept running across the

827
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,920
field and somebody didn't and
then he could run after the

828
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,400
catch when that happened.
So they really got it.

829
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,440
They got to do something
different about that.

830
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,840
I just, it just just absolutely
just boggles my mind, just blows

831
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,240
my brain right out of my head to
think that that Jamar Chase had

832
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:08,680
22 targets and he caught 16 of
them, eighteen of them.

833
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,320
And it just torched us.
And it was just too easy and

834
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,440
just too and and.
Afterthought should have been

835
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,040
Joe Flacco was the quarterback.
Well, that was that was Tomlin's

836
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,080
first thought, I think.
I think the Joe Flacco thing.

837
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,080
Is Tomlin showing he's
absolutely afraid of something?

838
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,480
Yes.
He, he and he play.

839
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,520
He, he always has fears about
this guy.

840
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,440
And you know, he says, you know,
we run to the challenge, not

841
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,360
away from it.
That's such bullshit.

842
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,360
That's just him saying that he
is so afraid of certain things.

843
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,160
He just, he doesn't, he doesn't
even want to play against them.

844
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,840
And that's what I think you
heard when, you know, they said

845
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,640
he was, you know, traded by the
Browns.

846
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Well, look, he was traded to the
Browns, but he could have played

847
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,480
for the Browns the week before
and torched us anyway.

848
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,880
That's true.
So I I just, I'm just, I'm just

849
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,080
tired.
I'm tired of it.

850
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,320
If you if you have $179 million
defense, you can stop a $1

851
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,760
million quarterback.
Yeah.

852
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,560
Yeah.
And it's ridiculous.

853
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:09,360
Right.
So you're you're, you're 100.

854
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,280
Percent right and here and.
Here's the thing, too.

855
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,960
And to be afraid.
Of it makes it even worse, well.

856
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,720
Yeah, and, and and I also.
Think now look, I mean, I'm not

857
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,680
saying I'm completely against
zone.

858
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,000
I mean, I think it it's good to
have a mixture.

859
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,080
But you know, when you're when
you're basically playing the

860
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:31,200
type of zone that the Steelers
were playing, The idea was let's

861
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,040
prevent the big play.
You know, let's keep everybody

862
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,600
in front of us, right?
But you know, if, if you watch

863
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,400
these games and you watch the
best receivers in the league,

864
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,640
when they get shut down, they
get shut down by man coverage.

865
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,640
You know, you, you have a guy
who, you know, has some length

866
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,880
who's playing, you know, right
up against them and he hits them

867
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,080
in that 5 yard area and throws
them off his route.

868
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,600
And then all of a sudden, you
know, you get a guy like TJ

869
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,920
Watt, you know, at least not,
not necessarily, you know,

870
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,800
sacking the quarterback, but
making him move in the pocket,

871
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,120
right?
You know, that's how you, that's

872
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,080
how you beat these really good
receivers is get them off the

873
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,480
route.
And then if you're following the

874
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,120
man to man, sometimes you might
not really even be covering them

875
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,360
that well, But because you are
right up next to them, the

876
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,920
quarterback doesn't want to
throw it right because he just

877
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,960
thinks, well, if he turns
around, he could catch it,

878
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,560
right.
So, you know, that's a key.

879
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:36,440
I mean, I, I really think it's a
big deal to, you know, to, to

880
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,360
play more man against these
better receivers.

881
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,760
And part of part of playing man
is just not being afraid, you

882
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,920
know, because yeah, you can get
burned for a big play and give

883
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,480
up an 80 yard touchdown, but I
think you could get burned

884
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,080
playing zone too.
I mean, you can't.

885
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,880
Fail.
You can, NFL, you can.

886
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,480
All right, this is great.
Our love time, our long time

887
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,960
watchers and listeners say we
might have to bring this back at

888
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:02,040
some point.
Mike Lawrence says I think it's

889
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,200
time for the Trader Joe's song.
No disagreement.

890
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,760
Hey, can we go back to the Joey?
Porter thing, just for a second.

891
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,600
Yeah, real quick, just because I
I found some statistics.

892
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,040
OK, go forward.
The Steelers have had five pass

893
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:21,040
interference penalties. 2 were
against were JP Junior, two were

894
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Brandon Eccles.
So there was one random random

895
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:30,680
person who also had one who also
has two pass interference.

896
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,600
Jane Ramsey.
Quinjan Mitchell.

897
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,320
I think he's pretty.
Good, right, Marshawn Lattimore,

898
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,200
He's he's pretty good, right?
He's not that good anymore, but

899
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,000
I get your point.
You know, so I mean, you know.

900
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,880
And and he it just, and you
know, they, they were, they

901
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,440
resulted in a net of 12 yards
against him.

902
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,800
So just stay off of the bullshit
with, with JP junior in this

903
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,400
pass interference.
It's it's, it's old and it's

904
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,760
it's tiresome and he's going to
be handsy and he's going to have

905
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,080
pass interference penalties, but
it's no more than anybody else

906
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:07,480
who isn't a damn superstar in
the league.

907
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,640
Well, did you add the the
holding penalties?

908
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,880
To it no, but because then.
Maybe it is more.

909
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,360
Because I it definitely feels
like more Yeah, I was going to

910
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,440
say 2 just seems too low.
But but I think what we've

911
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,760
identified here, Grant
Schwabini, that that we can play

912
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,280
to our advantage going forward
is something is something called

913
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,080
a hot button.
It is a hot button.

914
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,320
Yeah, it is a hot button.
It is a hot button, yeah, and.

915
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,720
I just feel bad for Steve
because every.

916
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,880
Week, He's like hoping for that
intercept in return for a

917
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,320
touchdown and just never comes.
He's going to be a loser every

918
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,240
time.
I'm getting mad now.

919
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,480
I don't.
I don't see there's a lot.

920
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,680
More.
There's a lot more.

921
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,360
Clips on that on that feed from
last week that I that I have

922
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,760
cute.
I don't have them here yet, but

923
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,200
they will.
They will make their way in.

924
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,720
He has had zero holding.
Penalties called against him

925
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,000
this year?
How about last year?

926
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,240
You don't want, you don't feel
like going.

927
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,960
Into that I mean that.
That would have been for the

928
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,240
full year anyways.
That would be foolish to look

929
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:11,440
at.
Yeah, that, that would be

930
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,760
foolish to look at of.
Course it would be foolish to

931
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:19,080
look at Hey listen.
Dang, now I'm going to want

932
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:23,720
something.
Taste.

933
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,120
The biscuit.
Taste the good.

934
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,040
Taste the goodness of the
biscuit.

935
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,240
Taste the goodness of the
biscuit.

936
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,640
All right.
Get that honey.

937
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,400
I don't like the way it takes
chicken wings.

938
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,440
It's back.
It is not back.

939
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,200
But I.
Thought in honor of the Trader

940
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,920
Joe's segment I would just tell
you I'm eating Trader Joe's.

941
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,040
What are these called?
Peanut butter filled pretzel

942
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,760
Nuggets.
That sounds good and I give them

943
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,360
a.
Thumbs up.

944
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,480
So anyway, we're going to.
Get to our porch picks.

945
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,640
Well, we got to do, Aaron.
Rodgers real quick and then.

946
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,080
We'll get to our porch picks.
Nice long show tonight having a

947
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,880
lot of fun.
If you're watching us on

948
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,000
YouTube, I want to thank you
very much Ron there and.

949
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,360
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950
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,200
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951
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,960
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952
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,880
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953
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,840
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954
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,720
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955
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,680
Green Bay at Aquisher Stadium.
We're going to be doing a live

956
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,120
post game show again.
We're going to have a lot of

957
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,320
fun.
We're going to have an awful lot

958
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,960
of fun because I think we're
getting better and better at

959
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,040
doing this.
Last Two's to blame.

960
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,680
Now, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
assigning blame here, OK?

961
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,320
It's just part of the it's part
of the lexicon of the tickers.

962
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,400
Like who's the lexicon?
Yeah.

963
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,520
Well, what I wanted to do.
Is.

964
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:59,000
I I I wanted to look at Aaron
Rodgers on the worst ever sports

965
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,560
franchise in the history of
mankind other than for one year

966
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,280
when Joe Namath won the world
championship.

967
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,920
The Jets.
That's my opinion.

968
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,200
I'm guessing that he's going to
be a lot better than last.

969
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,640
Year and I wanted to see OK.
You know our defense is

970
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:18,560
legendarily poor as far as
Steelers defenses are concerned

971
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,520
and the amount of money they're
paid.

972
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,760
Let's take a look at Aaron
Rodgers statistics and see if

973
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,720
you know it would have made a
difference if say the defense

974
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:32,440
was ranked 18th or 15th even in
the in in close to the top half

975
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,160
of the league.
So as far as Aaron Rodgers is

976
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,960
concerned, 2024 with the New
York Jets.

977
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,400
You going to pull up the Canva?
I'm doing it the.

978
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,000
First game first.
Six games you going to pull up

979
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,240
the Canva?
There is your Canva 14 to two,

980
00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:53,480
2163.8 completion percentage,
14166 yards, 10 touchdowns, 3

981
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,160
interception.
Now the rating isn't exact

982
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:02,760
because I just did the average
over six games. 95.8620251

983
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:09,840
eighteen for one. 7268.6 little
better, only 12170 yards, 14

984
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,520
touchdowns, 5 interceptions.
Passer rating a little higher.

985
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,920
I would call that.
I'd say a lot higher.

986
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,960
Passer rating higher I.
Would call that a little.

987
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,800
It's a lot higher.
Yeah, whatever.

988
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,800
I would.
Call that.

989
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:31,480
A little better this year.
The yards are down, couple 100

990
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,400
touchdowns are up, interceptions
are up and he's thrown 50 less

991
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,480
passes.
Now, of course, The Jets defense

992
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,560
was not great.
You know, I'm actually

993
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,280
surprised.
I thought it was going to be.

994
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,280
A lot better, right?
I'm surprised.

995
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,600
I'm surprised.
I'm surprised by that now.

996
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,000
I still think he's better this
year compared to last year.

997
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,400
But, you know, that's mainly the
completion percentage.

998
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,640
I think any time you're around
70%, you're having a really good

999
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,000
year.
And I like that.

1000
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,200
It's more touchdowns.
Yeah, I, I, I, you know, it's,

1001
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,280
it is surprising that.
Yeah, I mean I, I think I would

1002
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,320
expect.
Them to be better than last year

1003
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,320
but not significantly better
only because the Steelers don't

1004
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:23,080
throw the ball enough to really
necessitate you know a huge

1005
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:28,480
differential against The Jets.
I don't know I I think it I

1006
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,960
think clearly Aaron Rodgers is
not the blame he's far from the

1007
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,880
blame when it comes to what's
going on with this offense and

1008
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,280
this team.
I think actually you can say

1009
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,040
easily that he's probably the
reason they have two of the four

1010
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,880
wins so I just hope he stays
healthy.

1011
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,320
You know, honestly, I'm, I'm
getting a little bit concerned

1012
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,480
as the season goes on.
You know, he's not been hit a

1013
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,400
lot lately, which has been good,
but he has had to run out of the

1014
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,880
pocket for his life quite a bit.
Eventually that's going to catch

1015
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,320
up with him in a long season.
Hopefully he's got some kind of

1016
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,560
good stretch regiment going on.
He's got some, he's got the

1017
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,880
right kind of bark.
He's he's Chong on.

1018
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,280
He knows what kind of bark to
chew on, you know?

1019
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,160
So as long as that's going to
happen.

1020
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,720
I'm not going to be concerned,
but that would be my my biggest

1021
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:20,480
concern.
I would send him down the back

1022
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,360
of the hill here at my.
House and let him do some

1023
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,040
mushrooms meditation.
Yeah, meditation.

1024
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,600
Monday.
I, I agree with you.

1025
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,840
I, I think Rodgers is playing
well.

1026
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,400
I, I think he displayed some
really incredible pocket

1027
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,880
presence skills during that
Bengals game, that one shot

1028
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,000
where it looked like he was dead
to rights and he hung in there

1029
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,840
in between 4 defenders in a
square around him, stepped to

1030
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,840
the left and made that throw.
I mean, I would say Aaron

1031
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,680
Rodgers is definitely the reason
that this team is still in the

1032
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,600
thick of things right now.
I would wager to say that if I

1033
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,520
was going to blame anybody for
our four and two record this

1034
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:03,320
year, 100% blame the defense.
We haven't even gotten into the

1035
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,920
rushing game.
You know, we'll probably save

1036
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,520
that for after this Green Bay
game.

1037
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,480
But I mean, seriously, it's, you
know, it's it's it's definitely

1038
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,120
he is an an incredible upgrade
over what we had last year.

1039
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:22,040
How about Fields being benched?
Yeah, thank, Thank God.

1040
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,600
The Steelers.
Did not sign him, thank God, but

1041
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,000
they tried.
You know, it's like you look at

1042
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:34,440
that and say, OK, at this point,
with hindsight, all the angst

1043
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,560
about Rodgers over the
summertime, come on.

1044
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,440
Just make up your mind now.
We don't want to make it now.

1045
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,120
I'm like, thank God we got him.
Thank God we got him at least

1046
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,440
the games are exciting.
You know, you know he's going to

1047
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,640
push it down field.
You know he knows what to do.

1048
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,360
So this week was the blame game.
We talked about the defense.

1049
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,880
Who knows who we'll talk about
after the game on Sunday night,

1050
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,920
but we're going to do that post
game show live.

1051
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,120
So make sure you click that
subscribe button, hit

1052
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,920
notifications and after the game
just wait for us to show up.

1053
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,960
We're going to have a lot of
fun.

1054
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,120
Hopefully it's a Steelers
victory and we can party.

1055
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,640
But I'll tell you what, if it's
a loss, people get mad.

1056
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,400
There's going to be a lot of
people here at one event.

1057
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,720
Well, it's a it's a huge game.
Because there's a, there's a

1058
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,800
major difference between 5:00
and 2:00 and four and three

1059
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,440
major difference.
And there's going to be a lot of

1060
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,320
interesting, like it's one of
those games where if the

1061
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:29,800
Steelers win it and win it
convincingly, right, then you

1062
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,000
can start.
Thinking.

1063
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:36,920
Maybe they're for real, they're
back, you know, But if not, then

1064
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,640
it's, it's just like it's more
of the same.

1065
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,960
And that's that would be
depressing.

1066
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,080
So let's do a real quick.
What are the keys to victory

1067
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,800
this game?
Break down the Packers and all

1068
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,200
that.
HJ, you were looking up some

1069
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,640
stuff on the Packers?
Yeah, I was looking up some

1070
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,800
things on the Packers.
The the thing about their

1071
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,800
defense is they're, they're
pretty damn good.

1072
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,560
They're #2 against the rush when
they're #8 against the pass.

1073
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,240
So their defense is very good,
but their offense, believe it or

1074
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,240
not, isn't not very good.
It's it's pretty much in the

1075
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,120
middle of the pack and Jordan
has been just OK they're.

1076
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,920
They're about where the Steelers
are.

1077
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,200
Offensively, in some cases, a
little bit below the Steelers,

1078
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,840
if you can believe it.
Where they really show the

1079
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:24,640
difference is in turnovers.
The Packers have no fumbles off

1080
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,280
of the rush this year and only 2
interceptions and the Steelers

1081
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,840
have 9 total. 4/4 against the
Russian, 5 interceptions.

1082
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,920
So guess what?
It's going to come down to boys

1083
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,840
like it always does.
The turnover battle, I think, I

1084
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,000
think that's really going to be
it.

1085
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,040
I think the Steelers are going
to struggle to run the ball

1086
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,520
against against the Packers,
although I think this will be, I

1087
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,160
think this will be a good test
for that offensive line.

1088
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,400
I keep thinking they're making
strides.

1089
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,960
They're getting better.
Clearly they were better against

1090
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,760
Cincinnati.
We'll know, We'll know after

1091
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,840
Sunday whether it was
Cincinnati's terrible defense or

1092
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,920
if the offense gets going.
If if Jaylen Warren can get 80

1093
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,560
yards against the Packers, I say
that they're probably going to

1094
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,240
get a win.
And it's not going to be, it's

1095
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,640
not going to be easy, though.
It's definitely not.

1096
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,280
I'll tell you what, they will
need a turnover.

1097
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,400
I'll tell you in my mind anyway,
what is the?

1098
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,600
Match up of the week is going to
be Michael Parsons against

1099
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:26,720
Broderick Jones and no doubt,
and he'll probably line up on

1100
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,440
both sides.
So, so you know, if you think

1101
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,400
about Michael Parsons getting to
the quarterback or pressuring

1102
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,720
the quarterback, that can rush
throws that can cause turnovers.

1103
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:42,320
A strip sack could happen if if
the Steelers tackles can keep

1104
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,920
him at Bay, then I think it
means really good things for the

1105
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,840
Steelers.
But that's a big if.

1106
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,240
And on top of that, you know
what they'll do.

1107
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,600
It'll just be the short pass.
That's what they'll do.

1108
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,000
Well, they'll have.
That's good.

1109
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,160
That that makes sense.
Yeah.

1110
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:56,560
And.
Those are the two things to

1111
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,280
think about first.
Of all, Rogers is the quickest

1112
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,000
in the NFL getting the ball out
because he knows his line is.

1113
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,120
Inexperienced, and that's the
word we'll use from now on

1114
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,800
because that's pretty much what
they are.

1115
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,760
I mean, other than Samalu,
they're inexperienced.

1116
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,000
So he's a veteran.
He gets the ball out quick.

1117
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,760
However, I Michael Parsons, this
is his fourth year, right?

1118
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,840
I I think it's his. 5th year
because it would have been like

1119
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,760
the fifth year.
I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure it's

1120
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:25,960
his fourth.
No, no, I think.

1121
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,520
You're right, it is 4th.
No, it's 4th.

1122
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,040
Because they they would have had
to pick up.

1123
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,280
His contract, that's why they
just let him so here's the

1124
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,120
here's the point that I'm.
Trying to make about that Rogers

1125
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,080
did not have a very long history
playing against him.

1126
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,440
And I, I think that pose is kind
of an issue because, you know,

1127
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,160
for example, if you've played a
division opponent that has a

1128
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,240
superstar on the other side of
the line, you know, for quite a

1129
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,920
few years, you have a lot of
film on them when they play you

1130
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,880
and you've also played against
them.

1131
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,240
So you kind of, you can kind of
forecast some of their

1132
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,600
tendencies.
And a lot of times it doesn't

1133
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,680
make a huge difference because
what you have is, you know, you,

1134
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,360
you, you've got 11 players on
the field.

1135
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,400
But when it's somebody like
Micah Parsons, who can be

1136
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,040
unpredictable and has great
moves, that poses a problem.

1137
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,720
So yes, this is a test for that
offensive line.

1138
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,520
I don't think the baseline is
the Cincinnati game because they

1139
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,840
did not have Trey Hendrickson.
And yes, the line looked above

1140
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,480
average in that game.
I don't know what the PFF grades

1141
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,520
were, and I don't really care.
What I saw was a line that

1142
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,960
looked pretty decent, you know,
But the caveat is they're

1143
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,600
playing a really shitty
defensive line.

1144
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,560
So they, if they're going to
make progress, they better look

1145
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,360
good against this line.
And they did.

1146
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,960
So yes, the real test is going
to be this week against Micah

1147
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,440
Parsons.
Micah Parsons only has 5 1/2

1148
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,520
sacks.
On the year, no, but he he had,

1149
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,360
he had three.
Against the Cardinals.

1150
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,680
So yeah, of course.
So he can pop off.

1151
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,400
I think that's exactly what Mark
said.

1152
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,080
And whoever our Gary is.
On Green Bay also has 5 1/2

1153
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,320
sacks.
Yeah, which which?

1154
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,240
That's the TJ Watt.
Alex Highsmith effect of They're

1155
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,040
years ago.
The two of them are tied for.

1156
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,520
6th in the NFL, yeah.
So you know and.

1157
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,680
You look, no, it's definitely
something you have to be.

1158
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,600
Aware of because you're right
Chris, he could take over the

1159
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,880
game with 11 big bull rush.
He Tomahawks the ball out of

1160
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,920
there and all booms.
Yeah.

1161
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,720
And then Broderick, just like
TJ.

1162
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,440
Could do whichever whichever.
Tackle it is on whichever.

1163
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,960
Side they lose their footing.
Next thing you know, they're

1164
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,680
like, oh God, that's right,
losing their footing.

1165
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,040
Ackershore Stadium.
I guess we'll get to see how

1166
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,520
that new turn looks.
Quick question for you.

1167
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,800
The last time the.
Steelers played the Packers.

1168
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,080
Didn't we watch it here and it
was like the first game where

1169
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,840
Jordan Love Actually looked
really good?

1170
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,240
I think so, I don't remember
but.

1171
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,360
I know they they.
Played them in Green Bay and

1172
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,320
they kicked our ass.
Right?

1173
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,720
They destroyed us.
Yeah, I think we did they.

1174
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,640
Destroyed us because.
You know, I was thinking about

1175
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,560
going.
To that game and Scott went to

1176
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,160
that game, the counselor went to
that game and he was so he was

1177
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:12,600
like just where is and how?
Where is the counselor I feel

1178
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:13,560
like.
He's disappeared.

1179
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,960
Well, you know, he's got he had
to get a real job.

1180
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,720
Yeah.
Oh, so he does finally have a

1181
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,480
real job.
Yeah.

1182
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,720
Unlike some people in this room,
the money ran out.

1183
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,400
I knew it was.
I knew it was money.

1184
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,800
Yep, the money.
Ran out Squirrel Hill without

1185
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,080
air conditioning.
Good luck.

1186
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:29,720
It's.
Only a.

1187
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,480
It's only a matter of time
before.

1188
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,640
It all comes back to me, I know
that.

1189
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,760
Let's make our picks.
I want to brag a little bit.

1190
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,960
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1191
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,080
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1192
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,240
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1193
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,160
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1194
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,840
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1195
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,120
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1196
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,920
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1197
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,960
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1198
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,400
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1199
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,360
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Next up here.

1200
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,520
Yeah, predictions.
What do we do?

1201
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,000
We predict.
We predict, and sometimes we

1202
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,320
predict right and sometimes we
predict wrong.

1203
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,480
Porch picks, NFL.
Every week we pick three games,

1204
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,720
a Thursday night game, a Sunday
night game, and a random Sunday

1205
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,520
game.
Last week on Sunday, I took the

1206
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,400
Rams with Mark.
Or excuse me, Steve took the

1207
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,480
Rams with Mark and I took the
Jags.

1208
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,600
Atlanta at San Francisco, we ran
the table.

1209
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,360
All three of us had the Niners,
Steelers had Cincy.

1210
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,760
Chris and Mark thought the
Steelers were going to win.

1211
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,360
And Hockey Jesus, the rest of
the Yinzer, the angry yinzer.

1212
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,680
He picked Cincinnati, but he
knew what he was talking about.

1213
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:50,120
So this year, HJ now in the
lead, 13 and eight, TD hanging

1214
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,600
in there, 11 and 10 in the
Grand.

1215
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,000
Schwab Beanie not far behind at
10:00 and 11:00.

1216
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,000
The first game this week that
we're going to pick is the

1217
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,600
Thursday night game.
And the Thursday night game

1218
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,840
happens to be the Vikings at my
Man Crush.

1219
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,480
The Chargers, the LA Chargers,
the Chargers, you got it.

1220
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,440
You got it so Vikings and
Chargers Steve, you were three

1221
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,120
and O last week yes, I will you
go 1st and we want your comments

1222
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,120
or your picks in the comments,
Your picks in the comments

1223
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,040
Vikings and chargers HJ go for
it.

1224
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,160
I got no feel for this game so
I'm just going.

1225
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,440
To go with the home team, I'm
going to go with the Chargers.

1226
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,320
It's the Chargers.
Carson Wentz is a turnover

1227
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,720
machine.
This is very, very true.

1228
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,600
So Mark and Steve are going with
the Chargers?

1229
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,640
Well, JJ McCarthy actually might
be back, yeah.

1230
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,560
He might be, he might be back,
but I'm still going to stick

1231
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:48,960
with the Chargers.
Here's the thing.

1232
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,560
Here's the thing that the
Chargers.

1233
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,400
Are up against the wall.
I picked them to make the Super

1234
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,480
Bowl this year.
It's at home.

1235
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,040
This to me is their first
absolute must win game of the

1236
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,120
season.
I think Carball has them ready

1237
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,240
to play.
I am also going to go with the

1238
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:12,360
Chargers.
OK the Sunday game, Cowboys at

1239
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,400
Bronco, the Broncos, Cowboys.
Oh.

1240
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:16,920
Boy.
At.

1241
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,440
Bronco.
The Bronco.

1242
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,480
The Dallas win.
Cowboy they beat.

1243
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,440
The formerly known as the Red,
they beat the commanders.

1244
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,400
In a commanding fashion with
Pickens at the helm.

1245
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,920
I know well they got C.
They got CD Lamb back.

1246
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,640
This is a really good battle.
CD Lamb and Pickens against

1247
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:42,640
Denver secondary Javonte
Williams can run the hell out of

1248
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,680
the ball.
Believe it or not, Denver's

1249
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,800
pretty stiff against the run.
Oh, boy, this is tough.

1250
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,480
But you know what?
I'm going to go out on a on a on

1251
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,120
a limb here.
I'm going to say Dallas.

1252
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,680
All right, Steve.
Says Dallas.

1253
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,360
Well, I'll tell you what.
I think the Broncos are the

1254
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,520
worst, best team in the league.
I mean, there doesn't.

1255
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,240
I feel like honestly, they're
just terrible.

1256
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,960
But somehow they keep winning
these games, which is crazy.

1257
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,400
I was leaning towards the
Cowboys, but I think we have to

1258
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,600
remember that the Cowboys can
look really good one week and

1259
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,960
look really bad another week and
they're definitely not as good

1260
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,400
on the road.
So I'm I'm going to take the

1261
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:32,000
Broncos and say the the bone
Knicks love fest continues.

1262
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,680
It's one of the few outdoor
games for Dallas.

1263
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,560
Yeah, this is tough.
The Cowboys.

1264
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:42,480
Have the number one offense in
the league and Denver has I

1265
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,480
think a top 10 defense.
They're they're one or two.

1266
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,680
The problem is that.
Jackson Dart.

1267
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,480
Took an 18 point lead over them
in the first half and they

1268
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,120
weren't able to score on the
Giants until the third quarter.

1269
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:02,680
So what that tells me is
although I think the Giants have

1270
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,000
a top defense.
Don't they?

1271
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,200
Giants defense is top ten, yeah.
Yeah, and the Cowboys defense.

1272
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,240
They say showed up against the
Commanders.

1273
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,080
The Commanders were without
their top three wide receivers

1274
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,160
and then and then J and Daniels,
he went down.

1275
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,200
So excuses.
This is the.

1276
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,279
Next man, you know what?
I'm, I'm, I'm going with, I'm

1277
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:24,680
going with the Broncos because
this is a home game.

1278
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,359
They're they're riding high.
Dallas does look, Dallas is

1279
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:32,920
Jekyll and Hyde all the way.
And while they looked fantastic

1280
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,920
against the Commanders and the
last couple games, I think this

1281
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,760
is the game in the pack in in
Denver where Yeah, well, I mean,

1282
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,680
you know how this goes.
You know, we lost to the

1283
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,399
Bengals.
So your comments, your pick in

1284
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:48,640
the comments Sunday Cowboys at
Broncos.

1285
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:54,319
All right, Sunday night game of
the week, the week that we are

1286
01:08:54,319 --> 01:09:00,240
going to continue our host game
something.

1287
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,640
Would somebody help me, please?
You're like bringing out the

1288
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:05,920
pirate voice.
I know.

1289
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,319
And you're talking about
football.

1290
01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:08,760
You're you're confusing
yourself.

1291
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,600
I'm looking for help is what I'm
looking.

1292
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,920
For I'm trying to beat.
The Steelers play.

1293
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:16,479
At home against the Green Bay
Packers, who do you got?

1294
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:21,520
Who do you got Packers at?
Steelers right here.

1295
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,720
Well, just like I did last week,
I'm going to stick.

1296
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,760
With my pick for the year and I
have the Pittsburgh Steelers

1297
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,000
beating the Green Bay Packers,
so I'm going with Pittsburgh.

1298
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,720
I don't remember who I had.
Do you have who I?

1299
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,439
Had before the season No, I
didn't I don't think I would.

1300
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,840
You write it all down I.
Did, but it's somewhere.

1301
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,319
Else No, I didn't, right?
You're picking the Steelers, you

1302
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:45,359
said, OK.
Once.

1303
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:50,000
I'm picking them again.
Boy, is this a tough one.

1304
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,279
It is.
It's really tough.

1305
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,480
And don't the Steelers have like
an undefeated record on Sunday

1306
01:09:58,480 --> 01:09:59,200
night?
At home?

1307
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,960
They're very good at home,
they're better.

1308
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,440
They're better.
Monday night, OK, their Monday

1309
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:06,840
night record's much better.
I don't think they've lost.

1310
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:11,040
Tomlin's lost the.
Monday night game so.

1311
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,760
They have.
They have lost games.

1312
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,640
On it just you know about that,
it just seems lost a game.

1313
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,240
But not I just.
Feel like it's so hard to.

1314
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,360
Have a confident bet on the
Steelers with that defense.

1315
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:30,960
I know you know what I mean.
I'm going to take the Packers a

1316
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,280
close one.
This to me.

1317
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:40,000
Is the Steelers first absolute
must win game of the year just

1318
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,720
because you said there is a big
difference between 5:00 and 2:00

1319
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,640
and 4:00 and 3:00 and.
As the year.

1320
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:52,600
Goes on, you know, we still have
two games against Baltimore.

1321
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,640
We still have a game against
Cleveland and Cincinnati.

1322
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,440
I don't care who's
quarterbacking those games.

1323
01:10:58,440 --> 01:11:03,000
They're toss UPS every year.
So there's the potential of two

1324
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,280
losses, 2 more losses right
there, which would put you at 5

1325
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,520
losses plus whatever you got to
do in between, which I will.

1326
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,800
We play Kansas City again, you
know, whoever we play.

1327
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,760
I'm I'm just saying this game is
super important.

1328
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,360
The Steelers defense was
embarrassed and they know it.

1329
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:27,600
I, I, I think Aaron Rodgers, he
wants to beat the Packers, so I

1330
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,360
think he's going to be slinging
it everywhere.

1331
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,200
The Packers offense is not
great, but their defense is

1332
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,880
good.
So that's where the problem

1333
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,720
comes in.
If the Packers defense was

1334
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,000
average or a little below
average, I think Rodgers carves

1335
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,360
them up with Parsons in there
and their defense against the

1336
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,000
run really good.
That poses a lot of problems for

1337
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,440
the passing game because we like
to use that run to set up the

1338
01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:57,320
pass.
And man, I'm going with the

1339
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,880
Steelers.
I just, I, I, I got to believe

1340
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:04,680
that that that that Cam and TJ
and Jalen Ramsey and Darius Slay

1341
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,640
and JPJ and Highsmith and Herbig
and Benton and whoever the hell

1342
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,960
else they put in it line ya ya
or YA, or however the hell you

1343
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,960
want to say his freaking name.
And, and and another thing that

1344
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,560
Darnell Washington, that ��1200
left or right side of the line.

1345
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,640
I think that really helps the
offense that helps against Micah

1346
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,360
Parsons, because if you think
you want to have him cheat, you

1347
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,720
want to have who do you want?
Chip and Micah Parsons, Warren,

1348
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,760
Oregon, Darnell Washington both
you know, they can, right?

1349
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:36,680
They can.
They can do.

1350
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,720
It 3 and.
Throw him Broderick.

1351
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,040
Jones, Darnell Washington might
miss him, though.

1352
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,720
Well, that's true.
Yeah, that's true.

1353
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,600
But.
They might have to use 7 down

1354
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,480
line there.
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's true.

1355
01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:48,680
But I guess what I'm saying is
that.

1356
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:53,520
Here I am, amateur amateur
sports enthusiast, professional

1357
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,320
sports enthusiast, amateur
defensive coordinator, saying

1358
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:02,080
hey, why not put the biggest,
heaviest, very athletic guy on

1359
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,040
the end of your line, the extra
guy in front of Micah Parsons a

1360
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,000
few times and see what happens.
I mean, at the very least you

1361
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,840
tire him out, you know, so, but
I'm going with the Steelers.

1362
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,440
I think they were embarrassed
and they don't want to, they

1363
01:13:14,440 --> 01:13:16,360
don't want to be embarrassed at
home again because you know, the

1364
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,480
whole stadium is going to Boo.
You know, if they get crushed

1365
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:23,120
and, and and the Packers run for
140 yards against them, there's

1366
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:24,480
going to be some shit hitting
them.

1367
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,160
There better be some shit in the
fan.

1368
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:28,400
Who's the running back again?
The Packers.

1369
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:30,840
Oh, Josh Jacobs.
Oh, yeah.

1370
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:31,960
Jacobs.
Josh Jacobs.

1371
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,520
That's.
Tough that's.

1372
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,440
Tough exactly, if you can
believe Google Gemini their

1373
01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:39,000
record.
On Sunday night is 22 and 15

1374
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,000
under Tomlin.
Yeah.

1375
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:40,720
Oh, really?
Yeah.

1376
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,120
So it's not that good.
It's good. 20 and three Monday

1377
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:43,800
night.
OH.

1378
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,800
I thought you said 22 and 15.
No, no.

1379
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:50,600
The Monday night record is. 20
and oh OK, so it's Monday.

1380
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,320
Night really?
3 losses OK and 22 and 15 is

1381
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,840
Sunday night Sunday.
Night OK so it's still good at

1382
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,720
22 and 15 is good if you can
still win Google Gemini check

1383
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,080
check the.
Yeah, played.

1384
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,120
He played.
That means they played. 30.

1385
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,720
Seven games on Sunday night,
that's a lot for any coach.

1386
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,360
Well, he's been around the most,
you know, so.

1387
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:09,840
All right, guys.
Listen.

1388
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:15,960
Remember Sunday night after
Packers at Steelers hit us up

1389
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,240
YouTube?
We will be here live with

1390
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,960
reaction, analysis, tears of
either joy.

1391
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,760
Oh boy, A lot of swearing.
Maybe some?

1392
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,240
Anger there will be.
Anger, I know there will be

1393
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,440
clippable.
Moments.

1394
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,200
Just like the one I clipped
earlier.

1395
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:35,160
Oh, yeah, All right.
Let's move on to a different

1396
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:36,400
part.
Of the show now part of the

1397
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:41,600
show, that where there is
reverence involved, where we

1398
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,920
have to pay homage to a holy
man, to a holy man, the holy.

1399
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,320
Man being.
Hockey Jesus above me here.

1400
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:53,000
Hockey Jesus who preaches on the
podcast after every single

1401
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,640
friggin Penguins game and
throughout the Stanley Cup

1402
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:00,320
playoffs and the Stanley Cup
hockey Jesus after every game,

1403
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,560
go to the go to the sports
sports podcast go to the sports

1404
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,120
sports show on Spotify,
iHeartRadio app Apple podcast

1405
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,240
subscribe.
You can pick up that I think

1406
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,880
you're doing them live now too.
I did the last one live.

1407
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,320
OK, so he.
He's doing it on YouTube at the.

1408
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,720
Sports Sports Podcast Live
before we get going on this next

1409
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,560
game is tomorrow night tomorrow
night, but it's.

1410
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,720
It's here at.
Home at home, so net tomorrow

1411
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,320
night home game.
He'll be able to get some sleep,

1412
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,640
like Jesus will be there.
So what, what do you got going

1413
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,120
on here?
HJ How how are you impressed

1414
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,440
with their?
I, I mean, I'm pretty impressed

1415
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:37,040
with a couple things.
I I like the way Muse coaches.

1416
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,840
I like the fact that he's
playing the younger guys.

1417
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,480
I think Malkin's line is kind of
coming to life, the Shrek line.

1418
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:46,280
Yeah, I I know there's some.
I know.

1419
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:47,760
There I know.
There's some things that you

1420
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,280
kind of disagree with with one
of the rookies that it that it

1421
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,000
that was playing on Sid's line.
Billy Koevenen.

1422
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,360
Yeah, Koevenen.
So.

1423
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,920
Where are we now?
Without diving back into the

1424
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,400
previous, Yep.
No.

1425
01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:03,080
Essentially the Steelers.
Are Steelers the the Pittsburgh

1426
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,920
Penguins are four and two?
OK, there is.

1427
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,920
And if you if you look.
At the division, the division is

1428
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,880
so, so tight.
Like I think everybody else is

1429
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,440
like 2 and three and something
like that.

1430
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:23,360
And Carolina's like 5 and O.
So they're right now they're

1431
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:27,120
third the metro, but everything.
So the only one that has a

1432
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,400
really big goal differential is
Carolina.

1433
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,240
There are plus 12.
The Steve are the Penguins are

1434
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,400
like it's +6 or something like
that.

1435
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,760
Anyway, that you are right.
I love the way that Muse has

1436
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,720
this has this team playing
defensively.

1437
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:45,080
They're very well structured,
meaning you don't just have one

1438
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,360
person near the puck.
You always have another person

1439
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,000
near the puck.
So if you miss it, then somebody

1440
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,200
else will get it.
That's what I like about this.

1441
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,440
The other thing I like about it
is getting the West Coast games

1442
01:16:56,440 --> 01:16:59,040
out of the way right away.
That that was pretty nice.

1443
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:04,880
So I can get my sleep this week.
But as far as the other teams

1444
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,560
that we've played, they played
against the the Ducks, who are

1445
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,960
just a fast team up and down.
They played against the terrible

1446
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:16,400
team in San Jose who they beat
pretty easily.

1447
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,280
So I think that they're
structured well to be in the

1448
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,640
hunt.
The problem with that is your

1449
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:29,760
one injury away from, you know,
falling backwards, you surprise

1450
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,720
away from, you know, being in
the playoffs.

1451
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:37,760
So you know my my problem with
Billy Kovinen is when Brian Rusk

1452
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,880
got healthy, he got sent down
the Wilkes.

1453
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,080
Barre he didn't get.
Sent down to the second line or

1454
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,200
the third line.
They sent him back down the

1455
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,400
Wilkes Barre and I just don't
understand that this kid

1456
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:54,080
definitely belongs up here.
He needs to be here.

1457
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:59,280
I I think what the what they're
going to be doing with with a

1458
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:04,040
rookie Kindle is very
interesting because if they end

1459
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,920
up keeping him, which they
could, they could.

1460
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,160
I don't think they will, but if
they could, it's going to free

1461
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,760
up.
It's going to be a problem with

1462
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:16,320
roster spots because Mcgroarty
is going to be healthy again

1463
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,800
soon.
And then you got Mcgroarty

1464
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:24,600
Kindle and and essentially
you're you're not going to lose

1465
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,280
Brazeau off of that second line,
that Shrek line, because that

1466
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,680
chemistry is just too good.
So I love this team.

1467
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,400
I think they're I think they're
a lot, a lot of fun to watch.

1468
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,440
They do play a more structured
game, but they are very they

1469
01:18:38,440 --> 01:18:41,520
still got Sid out there.
Sid can still do amazing things.

1470
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,280
If you saw the tip in that he
had against San Jose, I don't

1471
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,080
even know how you know the tip,
the puck basically off the shaft

1472
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,280
of your stick like that.
It's just he's he's still got

1473
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,000
it.
They the first line still still

1474
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,560
has it.
There still would be a first

1475
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,760
line on any on any team in the
NHL.

1476
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,960
So I think if if you throw it
all together, it's a recipe for

1477
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,920
being in the hunt.
And I don't know if that's

1478
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,840
necessarily good or bad, but any
talk about tanking for Gavin

1479
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:15,200
McKenna until somebody of
significance gets injured, just

1480
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,360
shut up about that.
Well, I mean, if if you think

1481
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,840
about it, there's 6.
Games into the season, yeah, Now

1482
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,920
it's not I, I don't care how bad
your team, you think your team's

1483
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,800
going to be.
You're not talking about tanking

1484
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,600
well last year, just for
perspective.

1485
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,720
They were three and three at
this time, right?

1486
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,840
So there weren't that much
worse, not that much better.

1487
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,360
But this is this was when they I
think they went on like A7 game

1488
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,240
losing streak.
Yeah.

1489
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,640
So I remember that they they
didn't, they win their first.

1490
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,400
Two last year yeah, something
like that then they then they

1491
01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:48,760
start won their.
First three they, then they tank

1492
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,480
they.
Started the tank after that so.

1493
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,760
We'll see three, the next four
are to home.

1494
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,120
That's kind of nice for some
home cooking this weekend.

1495
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:57,760
You'll see if you're going to be
watching it.

1496
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,960
The Hall, they're bringing back
the Pittsburgh Penguins Hall of

1497
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,680
Fame, so four guys are getting
inducted into that.

1498
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,240
He's getting inducted.
It's Kevin.

1499
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,600
Stevens, You.
You.

1500
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:09,360
Might know him.
Yeah.

1501
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,880
Ron Francis.
Yeah, you might remember him.

1502
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,240
Good old Ronnie Francis.
Scotty, I'm I'm saying.

1503
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,360
They're not in, no.
No, the the oh, it's just.

1504
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,120
They put a pause.
On the Penguins.

1505
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,400
Hall of Fame.
Oh, OK.

1506
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,240
They put a pause on.
Having a.

1507
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,520
Pittsburgh Penguins Hall of
Fame.

1508
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:32,080
I don't know why they just got
away from it like in 2013.

1509
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,560
OK, so there are some people
already in the Penguins Hall of

1510
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,000
Fame, but they have a mix so
that they're putting in two

1511
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,760
coaches, Eddie Johnson and and
Scotty Bowman.

1512
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:48,120
So those four guys are going in.
They'll be at a ceremony on

1513
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,680
Saturday.
So I still might get tickets for

1514
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,120
it.
They're pretty affordable.

1515
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,800
The problem is I went to
actually buy them because you

1516
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,720
could buy those in a ticket.
You had to buy them in pairs.

1517
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,720
Like come on, Pittsburgh
Penguins?

1518
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,080
What the heck?
Like I want to buy a single.

1519
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,640
I'm sure there are other people
that will buy a single and will

1520
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,840
sit next to me.
Who wants to go to a Penguins

1521
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:14,400
game besides you?
Dude, you don't go alone. 8187

1522
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:19,040
fans, 18,187 fans.
Hockey Jesus, folks, we're all

1523
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,440
brothers.
We're all brothers.

1524
01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:23,440
Chris Chotta, can you answer his
question before we move on here?

1525
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,360
Yeah, Chris Chotta is asking if.
I can explain what a scratch

1526
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:31,160
means.
How many scratches do you want?

1527
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:35,160
How many do you get?
2 people usually get scratch per

1528
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:35,960
game.
Chris.

1529
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,840
A scratch means that you can go
out for the warm up skate, but

1530
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:44,760
they always have two, usually
two players too many to be able

1531
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,640
to put on the bench.
So they have to scratch two

1532
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,000
players.
That doesn't mean they always

1533
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,720
have two goalies.
So you can't scratch a goalie.

1534
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,440
Although this year the they have
the what they call the E bug,

1535
01:21:57,440 --> 01:22:02,480
the emergency goalie.
But this year every team has a

1536
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,480
third goalie.
So he's they already know who

1537
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:08,680
the third goalie would be
instead of an emergency guy.

1538
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,520
He's on the roster, but he
doesn't count against the

1539
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,240
salary.
That's just that's just weird.

1540
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,320
It's just, it's just weird that
they they never had it.

1541
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,520
Who is the 3rd goaltender?
It it's one of.

1542
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,120
Sid's friends.
Very serious, I'm pretty sure.

1543
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:23,160
Yeah.
Yeah, it's so.

1544
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,480
Weird, he's.
Probably sitting in the

1545
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:26,400
clubhouse.
Drinking a Miller Lite under

1546
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,040
the.
Game, yeah, but anyway, I forget

1547
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:29,480
his.
Name.

1548
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:32,080
I'll get it for you next week.
Put that beer down and get your

1549
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,840
pants on.
It's time to get in there.

1550
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,120
But yeah, that's so that's what
the scratches.

1551
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:42,080
It happens usually it's a almost
always is a defenseman and and

1552
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,800
an offensive guy high.
But sometimes people will go

1553
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,200
with what they call 7 defense
bin.

1554
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,160
So if you hear A7 defenseman
playing that means they didn't

1555
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,320
scratch a defenseman which is
weird because you can only put

1556
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,480
two out there at a time.
So you got a mismatch of

1557
01:22:57,480 --> 01:23:00,400
defenseman out there.
But that happens when people

1558
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,840
really don't want to don't think
they can score and they need to

1559
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,640
slow down the opposition.
Quick question for you, what?

1560
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,480
Was the was the rookie
goaltender last year?

1561
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:11,760
Was his name Bloomquist?
Yeah, Bloomquist.

1562
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,320
Yeah.
Why is he not on the?

1563
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,520
Team.
He didn't really.

1564
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:16,960
He didn't, really.
Show anything?

1565
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,320
No, no, here's the problem with
Bloomquist.

1566
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,680
He is going to be behind
Miroshoff.

1567
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,960
That's the problem.
Miroshoff is their guy, but he's

1568
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:32,160
just too young.
OK, so him and him and Joel are

1569
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:36,040
are down at Wilkes Barre and as
it turns out, they must be

1570
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,800
pretty good because right now
Wilkes Barre is undefeated.

1571
01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:42,680
So is this Bloomquist?
Essentially not in their plans.

1572
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,200
Somebody they'll eventually
trade.

1573
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,680
I think he'll probably end up
being the backup goalie.

1574
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,400
So when they bring up Mirror
Soft, they'll bring up

1575
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,680
Bloomquist and then they'll be
there 2 goalies.

1576
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,160
Or they might trade him.
They might trade him for

1577
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:56,400
somebody.
I thought he should.

1578
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,320
Some promise, I mean.
He did, but if you've seen Mira

1579
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:01,080
shot.
Play.

1580
01:24:01,440 --> 01:24:03,840
He's he.
He's more like Flurry in the way

1581
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,440
he moves.
Just really incredible speed,

1582
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,680
able to cover the net much
better than Bloomquist.

1583
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,600
And Bloomquist is once again not
a big guy either.

1584
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:21,000
So those goalies, yeah, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not too, I'm not

1585
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,360
too bent out of shape that he's
not on the team.

1586
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,040
He got a chance last year and he
didn't really, he didn't grab

1587
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,280
the chance.
And what's your?

1588
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,320
What's your assessment of the
new goaltender?

1589
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,560
Is his name Slowia or something?
Sheila.

1590
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:41,040
Sheila OK, so.
I was a little off Mother

1591
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,880
Sheila.
From mother to Rush No.

1592
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,040
No, he's.
A He's a He's a good goalie.

1593
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,640
I.
Mean he's he's won a playoff

1594
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,160
series, he's a he's an NHL
goalie.

1595
01:24:49,480 --> 01:24:53,520
The thing is, I think he's
making Jari realize that he's

1596
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,800
good enough to take his job no
problem.

1597
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,840
So as long as they both are
playing well, I think you'll see

1598
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,480
this trade off off one in one
out.

1599
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,360
They're not going to play the
hot goalie.

1600
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:07,080
So I I like that actually that
that way, I think until somebody

1601
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:08,720
who shows that they're really
terrible.

1602
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,160
And I think Jarry did at times
on the West Coast.

1603
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,040
He didn't in the last game, but
they weren't playing against a

1604
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,120
very good team either.
So there I think the goalie

1605
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:22,240
situation is OK, mostly because
the defense in front of them is

1606
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,720
a lot better.
So you don't need to have a

1607
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,840
absolute stellar goalie who's,
you know, stopping 2 on ones,

1608
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,680
etcetera.
So yeah, that's the way I feel

1609
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,760
about the goalie situation.
All right, hockey Jesus, he's

1610
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,000
going to preach.
On the podcast tomorrow night

1611
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,520
after Who are the Pens playing
again?

1612
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,800
They play Vancouver.
Vancouver.

1613
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:43,640
The Canucks, It's going to be a
hockey night in.

1614
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,360
Pittsburgh What?
Canucks.

1615
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,080
Them Vancouver Canucks.
And that are going.

1616
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,200
To be down there, PPG Paints and
hockey.

1617
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,720
Jesus going to be down there.
He's going to preach on the

1618
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:53,640
pole.
Katie, can you?

1619
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,000
He's going to preach.
Can you explain?

1620
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,440
What a Canuck is a Canuck.
It's kind.

1621
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:03,880
Of like, you know, a situation,
a situation in which you're, you

1622
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,800
know, you kind of you're damned
if you do or damned if you

1623
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,200
don't, right?
You're damned if you're Canuck.

1624
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,640
That's a.
Canuck, OH.

1625
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:15,760
Wait a minute.
Yes, it's a conundrum.

1626
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,960
That's a conundrum.
All right, go to the porches.

1627
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,080
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1628
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,760
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1629
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,240
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1630
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:30,800
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1631
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,640
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1632
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,880
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1633
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,360
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1634
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,320
after tonight's show on the
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1635
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,160
Spotify or anywhere you get your
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1636
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,680
Last part of our show tonight,
Something that we do to give

1637
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,640
back to you, by the way, real
quickly.

1638
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,920
Yeah, A.
Canuck is a slang term for a

1639
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,280
Canadian Canadian.
Yeah, you didn't know.

1640
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,000
That no I I.
I probably.

1641
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,640
Did and then I forgot.
Yeah, well, and it's not

1642
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,120
derogatory.
It's it's.

1643
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,240
So it's, yeah, it's, you know,
it's.

1644
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:04,360
Like you're my.
Like you're my.

1645
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:05,840
Canadian it's like you're.
My home.

1646
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,240
Yeah.
You're my Canuck.

1647
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,520
Yo-yo Canuck.
Yo, what's up?

1648
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,160
I think, I just think.
That the entire.

1649
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:16,120
Statement of that is a little
bit of a conundrum for us, to be

1650
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,440
honest with you.
I think we could take it in a

1651
01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:19,480
lot of different.
Directions.

1652
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:20,120
All right.
What?

1653
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,840
We're watching tonight.
Grand Schwabini.

1654
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,960
My my throat's dry.
Take it away.

1655
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,720
Well, folks.
We have reached the point of the

1656
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:35,200
evening where we thank you so
much for your viewership, for

1657
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:39,360
your loyalty, that we have
decided that we want to give

1658
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:43,920
something back to you, to you.
And that is when it comes to,

1659
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,920
you know, you run out of, of
shows you're watching and what

1660
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,440
do you watch next, right?
There's so many choices.

1661
01:27:50,440 --> 01:27:52,800
You got Hulu, you got Amazon
Prime.

1662
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:57,560
You've got HBO Max.
You know, you've got Netflix,

1663
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:01,120
you've got, you've got Peacock.
I'm already confused.

1664
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,320
You know, yeah, it it's too much
too.

1665
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,960
Much to do.
We do it for you.

1666
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:12,680
And what we do is we watch
either a movie in its entirety,

1667
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:18,840
can't walk out on it to give a
review, or we watch a series

1668
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:23,640
where you have to at least have
watched an entire season of that

1669
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,360
series before you make a review
'cause sometimes you know

1670
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,960
something, something looks good
and then it's all of a sudden

1671
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,240
not so good, right?
So we want to make sure we're

1672
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:37,160
doing right by you and tonight
we are going to tell you whether

1673
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:42,720
something is thumbs up means to
lock or thumbs down, which means

1674
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:47,080
don't waste your time.
We just saved you hours of your

1675
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:48,200
life.
You're welcome.

1676
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:49,640
You're welcome.
Yes, so.

1677
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,800
Start us off the Grand
Schwabini.

1678
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,360
Oh, has anybody been watching
the?

1679
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,000
House of Guinness, no.
But I'm very interested in.

1680
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:02,880
House of Guinness.
Is by the folks who did Peaky

1681
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,720
Blinders yes, and I have to say
it's.

1682
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,360
Really, really good is.
It nice.

1683
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:11,760
It's really, really good.
You know, much like Peaky

1684
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,760
Blinders, I don't know if you
guys remember, but like, you

1685
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,040
know, the first episode was
like, it was a little slow kind

1686
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,120
of, you know, a little bit, I
mean, Peaky Blinders, you know,

1687
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,880
yeah, I agree with you.
I I I dove into Peaky Blinders

1688
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,880
right away.
I liked it, but you're right, it

1689
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:25,760
was.
A little slow.

1690
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,280
It was a little.
Slow in the beginning.

1691
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,800
Character development that was
going on, it was like, come on,

1692
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:31,960
let's get to the Yeah, I think
there's a little bit of slowness

1693
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,560
in the beginning, but.
You know it's an 8 episode.

1694
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:38,280
Season 1 ends on a cliffhanger.
It's really good.

1695
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,440
It's a good story.
It's about the Guinness family

1696
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:46,600
and it, it's, it's not an
entirely true story, but I, I

1697
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,480
looked after watching the first
season, what's true, what's not

1698
01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:51,440
true?
Most of it's true.

1699
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,200
It's just like embellished a
little bit, right, right.

1700
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,120
So it, it's an interesting
thing.

1701
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:01,720
I I really, I kind of like the,
you know, the way they do, you

1702
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,680
know, the way they did Peaky
Blinders where it's kind of like

1703
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:08,320
they have that like there's
really cool music involved and

1704
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:09,960
it's, but it's like a period
piece.

1705
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,280
It's almost like the music sort
of like doesn't go with the

1706
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,640
time, but it kind, but it kind
of does.

1707
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:20,000
And, and it's basically about,
you know, the Guinness family is

1708
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,840
incredibly rich.
You know, they have aspirations

1709
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:29,080
of, you know, getting into
politics and there's a group of

1710
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:33,800
people called the, I guess
called the Fenians and you know,

1711
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:38,160
they, they oppose there.
There's opposing tensions in, in

1712
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,800
the politics of Ireland.
No in Ireland.

1713
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,200
Yes in Ireland.
Ireland used.

1714
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,480
To fight.
And so you have, you know, like

1715
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,520
the Guinness folks are kind of
now like high society and the

1716
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,280
Fenians are kind of like the
poor low brow, right?

1717
01:30:54,400 --> 01:31:00,400
And it's just, it's really good.
And it's it, it looks like, you

1718
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,440
know, they haven't necessarily
said that there's going to be a

1719
01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:06,960
season 2, but apparently the,
the writer of it, the, you know,

1720
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,040
the Peaky Blinders guys, they,
they're, they said they've got

1721
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:13,160
five seasons ready.
So I, I think it's good.

1722
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,400
I think it's going to happen.
There's definitely going to be

1723
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,040
season 2 after the cliffhanger,
cliffhanger.

1724
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,800
So I hate so the only thing.
About the cliffhanger is like.

1725
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,840
You know, like.
If you're not watching it like

1726
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,560
when it's all done right, like
now I have to wait six months or

1727
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,560
whatever.
And you know what I mean?

1728
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,280
Yeah, so, but it's it's it's
it's a big two thumbs up.

1729
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,880
I think you guys will, I think
you guys will both love it.

1730
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,680
Well, I, you know, I, I have one
question.

1731
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,480
Yes.
And one question only.

1732
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,000
Sure you know what that question
is.

1733
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,040
I don't.
Yes, you do.

1734
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:42,760
Nope.
Good's the sex.

1735
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:44,240
Yep.
That's it.

1736
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,880
Some good stuff in there.
Yeah, some good stuff.

1737
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:47,840
All right, I'm definitely come
on.

1738
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,880
He he asks it every.
And I you know.

1739
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,120
I don't, you know, and I you.
Know I'm not a Game of Thrones

1740
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,360
dude, yeah.
But I think there's somebody

1741
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,920
who's, like, pretty big from
Game of Thrones who's in it.

1742
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,280
Yeah.
I just can't recall.

1743
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:00,640
Yeah.
Are they involved in the short

1744
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:01,520
guy?
Good sex.

1745
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:02,760
Scenes.
I don't.

1746
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:04,360
Think is it the short guy?
I think it is the.

1747
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,320
Short guy.
Oh, the little guy, Dinkle.

1748
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,040
No, no, no, no.
No, no, not him.

1749
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:09,000
Not.
Him just another.

1750
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,880
Guy who's short but not a
Midget.

1751
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,280
Yeah, yeah.
Not the vertically challenged,

1752
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,200
no, no.
No, but there's.

1753
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,320
But there's a real, there's also
too, there's there's a really

1754
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,320
cool character in it.
His name is like Mr. Rafferty

1755
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,360
and he's like the the Guinness
family fixer.

1756
01:32:25,480 --> 01:32:27,400
Yeah.
And he's just a real friend.

1757
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,440
Ray Donovan.
Yeah, he's just going to say it.

1758
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,760
He's he's he's probably.
My favorite character.

1759
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,120
In it.
OK All right, All right.

1760
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,320
House of.
Guinness Schwaber gives it 2

1761
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:37,840
thumbs up.
Two thumbs up.

1762
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:40,880
HJ.
This.

1763
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,680
This was a no brainer.
HJ yeah, actually when I saw.

1764
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,320
This I, I was like, yeah, this
is this is on my list.

1765
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,000
It's probably going to make me
cry.

1766
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:52,280
I, I, I have a feeling.
Oh yeah, it absolutely will.

1767
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:53,720
You're going to.
You're going to tell me all

1768
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,600
about that?
This is the I like me the.

1769
01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:00,440
John Candy, the I don't even
know how you say it.

1770
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,320
It's basically a tribute of his
life.

1771
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,840
It's more, it's more than a
biography because you know, all

1772
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:11,240
the heavy hitter guys are there
and they're talking about him.

1773
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:16,120
And he was just loved by
everybody, like everywhere he

1774
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,400
went, not just the people he
worked with.

1775
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,760
But did you know that he and
John Hughes were like super

1776
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,040
friends?
They did everything.

1777
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,840
I didn't know that.
And I also didn't know that his

1778
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:33,000
dad died when he was 5.
And I feel really bad.

1779
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,320
It messed him.
Up for his whole life.

1780
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,400
And you wouldn't even have known
it like because he's such a

1781
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,880
joyful guy, you know, and I that
was every, that was what

1782
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:44,040
everybody said, you know, he
didn't, he didn't want to wear

1783
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,200
that on his sleeve.
So, you know, he just wanted to

1784
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,760
make people happy.
And that's what he did his whole

1785
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,280
whole life.
And believe it or not, he was he

1786
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,240
was worried about his weight at
the end.

1787
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:58,960
And when he died in where he
died was in the middle of

1788
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:02,640
nowhere.
It basically he was trying to

1789
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:06,880
get his nutrition under control.
Everybody was really worried

1790
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:09,720
about him and thought he was
going to die because he he, you

1791
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:13,400
know, he went from XL, the
double XL, the triple XL, the

1792
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,320
five XL.
And his wife was like, you know,

1793
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,440
it was something he never really
wanted to talk about and he

1794
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:21,160
never really thought of it as a
problem.

1795
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:24,440
But when you're putting on that
much weight, it just has too

1796
01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:28,480
much stress on the heart.
And that's pretty much what what

1797
01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:31,120
did him in.
But it's just it's just like you

1798
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,280
get to go back and relive all
the movies.

1799
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:37,000
Uncle Buck playing Chains and on
would be like exactly.

1800
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:39,920
And they they actually the.
Great Outdoors is my favorite.

1801
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:40,400
John.
Great.

1802
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,480
Outdoors, yeah.
I mean, they're just so.

1803
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,160
They're just so.
Many, so many good.

1804
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,800
And then they they even talk
about the ones where, you know,

1805
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,080
he wanted he wanted to do so
many favors for other people.

1806
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:51,920
He would he would be in
anything.

1807
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,800
And some of them were absolute
duds.

1808
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,200
And I don't even remember like
some of the names all the way.

1809
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,120
I don't I don't know the names
of some of these movies, but

1810
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,280
that's what he did.
He was a people pleaser.

1811
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:07,680
Died way too soon, but
absolutely 100% worth the watch.

1812
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:12,680
And yes, have a box of tissues
right next to you.

1813
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:16,760
All right, John Candy, I like.
Me on prime HJ gives it 2 thumbs

1814
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:21,400
up.
I completed I think it was

1815
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,320
yesterday.
Yes, this is on.

1816
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,080
This is on.
Netflix what?

1817
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,800
And it's called True haunting.
I don't think I've seen this.

1818
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:33,320
It's new.
Basically it's about the

1819
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:37,720
paranormal and I'm a big fan.
They interview.

1820
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:40,920
I know Amy said that earlier.
House of Guinness is really

1821
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:45,560
good, not slow at all.
They basically it's a 5 episode

1822
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,720
limited series.
I I, I think they're going to do

1823
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:53,320
more seasons, but I don't really
care if they do, to be honest

1824
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:54,480
with you.
You guys know me in

1825
01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:56,440
documentaries in the paranormal,
right?

1826
01:35:56,480 --> 01:35:58,560
Yeah.
That I'm not surprised.

1827
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,400
You watched it?
Alien aliens, Ghosts.

1828
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,360
Conspiracy theories, things that
go bumping the night?

1829
01:36:04,440 --> 01:36:06,600
Absolutely.
I'm waiting for the.

1830
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,400
Mothership to come down.
I'm watching Invasion on Apple

1831
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,600
TV plus it's already here.
Atlas 3I.

1832
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:13,880
It's coming for you.
There you go.

1833
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:15,600
I I know.
I I saw that I'm.

1834
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,560
I'm, I'm, I'm going to put a big
flag out.

1835
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,840
Oh no, they know where the fuck
take me, OK.

1836
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,720
That's cool.
No.

1837
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,920
Flags necessary this.
Was basically probing you this

1838
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,800
this was this.
It'll be like it already

1839
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,080
happened.
He'll be loving they're.

1840
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:32,920
Back they're back for a second
look I've.

1841
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,800
Had we'll be out a follow up.
Follow up.

1842
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:38,440
Go down there and stick a
follow.

1843
01:36:38,440 --> 01:36:41,560
Up up his butt.
Anyway, so that's not where they

1844
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,360
put the probe.
Oh, please.

1845
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,760
OK, so, so what's this about?
Yeah, basically.

1846
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:51,040
It's a 5. 5 episodes, The first
3 episodes are dedicated to 1

1847
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:54,840
haunting situation.
The last two, another one, the

1848
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:59,240
first one, it was a haunting in
a college dorm in some weird

1849
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:05,640
named college back in the 80s
time we were in college, a young

1850
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,760
man was affected by some sort of
ghost.

1851
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:11,000
And it goes through, I will, I
will not belabor you with the

1852
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:14,520
details, but it goes through his
experiences and then like

1853
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,560
obviously his friends experience
it with him.

1854
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,880
So the second one, 1 is a
family, the classic.

1855
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,440
They moved into a house.
It was like the House of their

1856
01:37:22,440 --> 01:37:24,800
dreams.
And then a whole bunch of weird

1857
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:26,480
shit started happening to
everybody.

1858
01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:28,760
Oh boy.
Eventually they they had to.

1859
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:29,800
Move out.
And Yep.

1860
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:31,480
Blah, blah blah, get out of
there.

1861
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:33,760
At least they got out OK.
Some people.

1862
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:40,000
Never get out to a guy who.
Enjoys hauntings, documentaries.

1863
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,960
I did a ghost hunt once in a
graveyard live on Pittsburgh.

1864
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,760
Beautiful.
I, I love this stuff.

1865
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,800
I, I, I believe there's
something to it.

1866
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:49,760
I don't, I don't know.
It is.

1867
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,440
I got to tell you.
It was.

1868
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,680
Uninspiring I I wasn't that
good.

1869
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,040
I I think the story.
Didn't break any.

1870
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,920
New noise I I and listen.
God forbid I don't.

1871
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:04,120
Make documentaries.
I would love to to be honest

1872
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:09,960
with you, I really would.
So I can't really criticize them

1873
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,040
the the the people that did it
because you could.

1874
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:14,080
The ideas are good.
Well, I'm going to I just I'm

1875
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,720
just you are hoping someday that
just let them have it pops up.

1876
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:19,320
They don't, you know.
Reference this show.

1877
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,800
So I just don't think it was
done very well.

1878
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:23,400
I don't think it was planned out
very well.

1879
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:28,600
I don't think there wasn't
enough drama I the way they I

1880
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,400
think the stories on their own
were very, very compelling.

1881
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,440
So you think there really was a
haunting I?

1882
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:37,360
Don't know, that's the thing.
But the point is, maybe they.

1883
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:38,640
Picked the wrong one.
The.

1884
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:40,960
Stories were very.
Compelling the way they were

1885
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,240
told was not.
So I'm going to leave you with

1886
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:45,360
this because we have got an hour
and 40 minutes.

1887
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:46,880
What a great show we had
tonight.

1888
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,920
True haunting.
Unless you are 100% die hard,

1889
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,600
you got to see this because you
watch every Ghost documentary

1890
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,800
like I do.
Stay away from it, stay away

1891
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:58,840
from it.
One more thing before we go off.

1892
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:03,480
OK, happy birthday to my wife.
Yes, Susan de Fleck guy.

1893
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,640
I wish.
Her happy birthday on LinkedIn

1894
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:06,960
today.
Very nice.

1895
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:08,400
That's the way to go.
Did not.

1896
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,160
Get a thank you yet?
Though you know, she's got a lot

1897
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,200
of thank yous to.
Give out.

1898
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,760
She's a very popular woman.
That's funny.

1899
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,120
Happy birthday, honey.
Happy.

1900
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,000
Birthday, Susan.
I can't believe you.

1901
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,440
Stuck with this guy all those
years, but you know what?

1902
01:39:21,480 --> 01:39:23,200
Somebody picked me.
Too so.

1903
01:39:24,440 --> 01:39:27,520
Amy says good show guys, no hard
feelings Steve about JPJ.

1904
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,920
We can agree to disagree.
You know it, Amy.

1905
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,440
That's why you were here.
That's what.

1906
01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:32,960
We're famous.
That's what we do.

1907
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,640
We.
Are absolutely famous for

1908
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:42,320
disagreeing, yes.
In the sports, sports black and

1909
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,360
gold.
Edition You're watching us all

1910
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:47,320
over the world on Facebook,
YouTube and X Remember, we're

1911
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,640
moving over to YouTube.
We're moving over to YouTube

1912
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:53,840
exclusively very soon at the
Sports Porch podcast on YouTube,

1913
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,080
if you haven't done it already
right now, once you do this

1914
01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:00,160
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1915
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,760
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1916
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,920
PM and this Sunday I'm going to
tease it like I did last week.

1917
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:09,960
This Sunday night, 8:20 you got
the Steelers, the Packers are in

1918
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:11,440
town.
We're going to do a post Shame.

1919
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,120
Post game.
Post shame.

1920
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,280
Post shame.
Post Shame.

1921
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,480
Post game show.
After the fact, with reactions,

1922
01:40:18,480 --> 01:40:24,800
tears either joyful or sad, for
the grand Schwabini, for hockey

1923
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,160
Jesus.
I'm your technical director.

1924
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,320
That's right folks, we'll see
you soon.

1925
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,680
I am out.
Job launch.