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Welcome back to another high-octane episode of The Sports Porch Black & Gold, your ultimate home for the most passionate Pittsburgh sports talk on the planet! Grab a cold one, pull up a chair, and join the conversation as we break down a massive, chaotic week for the 412.

Tonight, we are diving deep into two massive storylines that have the entire city talking:

🏈 AARON RODGERS IS BACK IN BLACK & GOLD: It’s official! The 4-time MVP has agreed to a one-year deal worth up to $25 million to return to Pittsburgh for his 22nd NFL season. With OTAs kicking off, we break down what this means for the offense. Is a massive raise for the 42-year-old quarterback the right move, or are the Steelers delaying the inevitable youth movement with Drew Allar and Will Howard waiting in the wings? Can Mike McCarthy and Rodgers recreate that Green Bay magic for a deep playoff run?

🏴‍☠️ PIRATES REALITY CHECK: The Buccos just suffered a brutal weekend sweep at the hands of the cross-state rival Philadelphia Phillies at PNC Park, dropping them to 24-23. We need to talk about this bullpen. After leading 8-3 in the series opener, the relief staff completely melted down, giving up 8 unanswered runs. From Mason Montgomery and Gregory Soto to Dennis Santana, the pen is leaking oil. Plus, we look at how the bats completely vanished against elite pitching, getting back-to-back shutouts by Cristopher Sánchez and Zack Wheeler (even out-dueling Paul Skenes). Are the Pirates contenders or pretenders?

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Transcript

Unknown Speaker (0:00): Where's the news?

Technical Director (0:01): This is the sports porch black and gold with your hosts, the technical director, the grand Schwabini, and hockey Jesus. Come on, Pittsburgh. Let's show a little steelers, penguins, and pirates love. The sports porch black and gold starts now. I have no words for the conversation that went on prior to Showtime.

Technical Director (0:36): All I can tell you, is, as I've said this for many, many years now is you just gotta be here.

Unknown Speaker (0:44): And We take this very seriously. Don't blame being here.

Unknown Speaker (0:46): Thank you for being.

Hockey Jesus (0:47): Planning the show is something we take very seriously.

Grand Schwabini (0:50): Take what I Klein did not today.

Unknown Speaker (0:52): Oh, yeah. Did. Exactly right.

Unknown Speaker (0:54): Shucking his duties. Man. You look at the banners and they're blank. Mhmm. We have no idea what I'm gonna be talking about.

Hockey Jesus (1:00): Your guess is as good as mine, Steve. Yep. What's on tap today?

Unknown Speaker (1:04): I think our I I guess the people coming in will just tell us what they wanna talk about. Yeah. Yeah. I think that seems fair.

Unknown Speaker (1:10): That's that's exactly right.

Unknown Speaker (1:11): It's a show built by the by the comments.

Technical Director (1:14): This is now these guys, you know, they come in. By the way, this is the sports sports black and gold.

Unknown Speaker (1:21): Yes, it is.

Technical Director (1:22): And, if you're watching on YouTube, smash that subscribe button. Thanks for being here. If you're watching on X, click follow. I'm gonna drop this into a podcast right after the show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you get. Your freaking podcasts.

Technical Director (1:40): Right. So every time these guys come in the studio, I I I get our topics, and I put them in the banners that you guys see down at the bottom. I know a lot of people don't pay attention to them. I get it.

Unknown Speaker (1:51): I totally

Unknown Speaker (1:52): get it. But some people I'm a banner reader. I, I, I,

Unknown Speaker (1:55): yeah, we tried to read the banner.

Unknown Speaker (1:56): You are, there were none to read. You are focused on the banner.

Unknown Speaker (1:59): Thank you

Hockey Jesus (1:59): more so than your regular fellow.

Technical Director (2:02): Yeah. So, you know, they they make fun of me.

Unknown Speaker (2:05): Oh, yeah. We'll find out

Technical Director (2:06): what the show is and read the banners because I always say, if you wanna see tonight's topic so we can have a little chat.

Hockey Jesus (2:13): We already have one vote for not Aaron Rodgers.

Unknown Speaker (2:16): Aaron Rodgers.

Unknown Speaker (2:17): Yes. There you go.

Unknown Speaker (2:18): Do not talk about Aaron Rodgers.

Technical Director (2:19): Yeah. AA Ron. Yeah. Who who I I missed that because I'm putting some hashtags in here. Anyway, so here's the thing about the banners, okay?

Technical Director (2:28): So, they come in. I, man, I feel like a master manipulator tonight. I got you guys exactly where I wanted to get you.

Unknown Speaker (2:34): Okay.

Unknown Speaker (2:34): I swear to god.

Unknown Speaker (2:35): Yeah. Mhmm.

Technical Director (2:36): Exactly where I wanted to get you. Good for you. Because because it is now it is now a goddamn your banner show. Okay?

Unknown Speaker (2:47): Mhmm.

Unknown Speaker (2:47): You wanna talk about something you guys have access, make a banner.

Unknown Speaker (2:53): I'm gonna make a banner.

Technical Director (2:54): It's required. If there's no banner, there's no discussion. Well, I'm not gonna go that far, but make the banner. So when you make a banner, put it up there. We'll have a discussion about it.

Technical Director (3:04): I'm not doing this anymore ex except for what we're watching that part, which is a lot of fun at the end of the show, by the way. So the other thing is if you're on x, these guys came in tonight all with all this attitude because our most recent video got, like, 10,000 views. Mhmm. And they came in here like, I don't know the views without you up and up and up and up and up.

Hockey Jesus (3:28): What was the most noticeable thing about the show last week? Well, yeah, exactly. You not being here.

Unknown Speaker (3:33): I know. I know.

Hockey Jesus (3:34): And that's okay. That's okay because talent

Technical Director (3:37): They're gonna hang themselves.

Hockey Jesus (3:38): At the end of the day, the talent carries the show, and we're friends with you. So you're okay to jump on our backs and come along for the ride.

Unknown Speaker (3:49): Okay. Come on. We got you.

Unknown Speaker (3:51): Jump on. Jump on the bandwagon.

Technical Director (3:53): I was in the emergency room with my mother last week during the show who is doing great, by the way. Thanks for all the emails. And

Hockey Jesus (4:00): did talk about that before the show. I know. Amy said no technical issues last week. Interesting. Yeah.

Hockey Jesus (4:09): I guess the big question is by sort of diverting attention to your mother's trauma. Yes. It seems like you it it was a hit, a little bit of a hit, the success of the show last week without you. And that's also okay. I already made It shows that you care.

Grand Schwabini (4:31): Since since it's a make your own banner kind of Yeah. I made one. So here we go.

Technical Director (4:34): Okay. Alright. Alright. Is is is Aaron Rogers going to help the young guns? I mean, that's that's boring.

Unknown Speaker (4:44): Okay. Yeah. Well, that's what happens when you let me make the

Unknown Speaker (4:47): ban. I mean, yes.

Unknown Speaker (4:51): You really think he's gonna help them?

Unknown Speaker (4:53): Why look. Why wouldn't he?

Unknown Speaker (4:55): Well, if he helps them

Technical Director (4:56): He's not gonna play forever. He knows that.

Hockey Jesus (4:58): If he helps them, is he essentially potentially making them better for their next team?

Unknown Speaker (5:04): Yeah. Real question is are they gonna keep both of them?

Hockey Jesus (5:07): Yeah. Right. Or or Rudolph gone maybe.

Unknown Speaker (5:11): Why would they get rid of Rudolph though? I mean, I would, but they're not going to. They got backup.

Hockey Jesus (5:16): Because they think that they're winning with Aaron Rodgers, so they wouldn't get rid of Rudolph.

Unknown Speaker (5:20): Well, I mean, they know he's fragile too.

Hockey Jesus (5:23): Mean Basically, somebody's somebody's gonna get, you know, a a ridiculous lame toe injury and go on the eye you know, the injured list. Right?

Grand Schwabini (5:30): Yeah. That's true. That will happen. So you're saying that he will help the young guns. I don't think Mark's convinced that that he's gonna actually help them.

Technical Director (5:41): Well, I I I don't think it really matters. I absolutely think he's gonna help them. I I I think Will Howard talked about it last year, you know, that that Rogers was willing to help him. And then and, you know, Aaron Rogers is selfish, and we we could talk about that all night long. We we we're gonna talk about that.

Unknown Speaker (6:02): Well, it wasn't too it wasn't too selfish last year.

Unknown Speaker (6:05): No. I mean, look.

Grand Schwabini (6:06): I mean, he wasn't he wasn't a distraction. I wouldn't say that.

Hockey Jesus (6:10): The bottom line is if if the discussion is, will Aaron Rodgers help the young guys? That means that the discussion is not, will Aaron Rodgers help the Steelers get past the first round of the playoffs?

Unknown Speaker (6:26): Yeah. Well, that's true.

Unknown Speaker (6:27): You know, pretty much.

Grand Schwabini (6:28): And then nobody think that's probably the ceiling for this team.

Hockey Jesus (6:31): Right. That's the ceiling.

Grand Schwabini (6:33): I mean, they they have no future with Aaron Rodgers. So all they're really saying is, let's try and make the playoffs again and do what we're trying to do what we did last year.

Hockey Jesus (6:42): Right. No. TD is not frozen, Mike Lawrence. I think he's just acting stupid.

Unknown Speaker (6:51): Now listen, guys.

Unknown Speaker (6:52): When I'm I'm That's how he normally is. Yeah. You've been here long enough. You know how he is.

Unknown Speaker (6:58): That is that what I was doing? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (7:01): That was some of the best acting you'll ever see. He held that post for like twenty five seconds.

Unknown Speaker (7:07): Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm a purist. I'm a method actor. What can I say?

Unknown Speaker (7:11): Oh my goodness.

Technical Director (7:12): No. I I I put this post up or this poll up on our screen. You know, are you happy Aaron Rogers is back in in the chat or the comments type one for absolutely two no frigging way. You know, just do it. You know, and I and and I'm on X and right now, you know, thanks for being here everybody who's watching but these guys, they got all crazy about, you know, back to this X thing.

Technical Director (7:40): I, I 10,000 views. Well, during the broadcast, I paid $25 to boost the video and, and they, they don't believe me. And they, they were, I baited them. I baited them so bad By the end of the show, I'm gonna show you the damn receipt.

Hockey Jesus (7:58): You're insulting our viewership.

Unknown Speaker (8:00): I'm either going to

Hockey Jesus (8:02): You're saying you're paying for viewers. You're insulting our viewership. Maybe you ought to think before you speak.

Technical Director (8:07): I'm gonna I'm gonna show you right now.

Unknown Speaker (8:11): Amy says to no frigging way. What do you mean? On the

Unknown Speaker (8:16): poll. On the front.

Unknown Speaker (8:17): If you wanna stay with the show.

Unknown Speaker (8:18): Stay with the show.

Technical Director (8:19): I'm working on something. You guys take it for the next thirty seconds.

Hockey Jesus (8:23): I will tell you what what I thought when I when I heard that Aaron Rodgers signed. My thought was this sucks because we are now again pushing off the rebuild one more year.

Unknown Speaker (8:37): Well, I thought typical, typical, typical. I mean, it's where the Steelers are now. It's where they've been for the last four or five years.

Unknown Speaker (8:45): Yeah.

Grand Schwabini (8:45): They just go to the pool of who's out there where we can get to make it look like we're gonna be relevant this year. Mhmm. Last year, it was Rogers, and he made the playoffs with us. So why not bring him back? He still wants to come back.

Grand Schwabini (9:00): So you know, for $20,000,000, that's the relative bargain for a starting quarterback in the league. But the the reality is he it's just a joke. I mean, everybody knows it's a joke, and nobody's just gonna come out and say it because this everybody wants the steelers to be relevant, and they would absolutely be irrelevant if they had to play pick your quarterback. Even if it was Mason Rudolph. I don't think this I actually think that the team would probably have a losing record with any of the other three starting, to be completely honest with you.

Technical Director (9:33): I I I think this whole thing is just kind of a shot in the dark. You know? I mean, there's there's there's no way of knowing how a new coach is going to affect a team. I mean, do I expect that with Aaron Rodgers because of McCarthy's because they spent thirteen years together. So do I expect them to kinda gel offensively?

Technical Director (9:56): Yeah. Do I expect the offense to look a lot better? Absolutely. I mean, even though Aaron Rogers is 43 years old, that's the tough part is like, can he still do it? But, you know, now he's got an offense that he played in forever.

Hockey Jesus (10:12): So, of course How do you know it's the exact same offense?

Unknown Speaker (10:15): I mean,

Hockey Jesus (10:16): maybe he did different things when he went to Dallas.

Technical Director (10:19): You gotta, you gotta let me finish. It's it's an, it's not exact. I was going to say it's not the exact same, but the basis for it is going to be there. And it's just going to be kind of learning maybe some of the new terminology, but it's the same stuff. And then there's other other new plays.

Unknown Speaker (10:35): Everybody knows what I'm talking about.

Grand Schwabini (10:36): Yeah. There's always a wrinkle that they throw in, but the the base offense will be the same.

Unknown Speaker (10:40): Yeah. For sure.

Grand Schwabini (10:41): Yeah. So So I mean, I think it'll be better from an offensive standpoint because it, a, it'll be a real offense. It won't be whatever Tomlin's offensive coordinator was running last year.

Unknown Speaker (10:52): Yeah. Arthur Smith.

Grand Schwabini (10:53): Yeah. So, I mean, I I Yeah. I think it's gonna I I'm actually pretty excited to see what the offense is gonna do. And now I know they're gonna make a lot more mistakes because that's what happens when you, you know, you throw it deep a lot. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (11:05): Mhmm. You're gonna make more mistakes.

Unknown Speaker (11:08): I

Grand Schwabini (11:08): I But I I you know, I'm gonna take the rosy path again. Last year, I said, you know what? I'm just gonna be I'm just gonna ride out Aaron Rodgers, see what he can do. And, know, you he only won the AFC North and lost the playoffs game that he probably shouldn't have lost. So it's it's not any worse than the last ten years before that.

Grand Schwabini (11:27): Yeah. You know? But nobody has delusions of grandeur. Like, he's gonna suddenly take us. We're gonna get so much better.

Grand Schwabini (11:34): We're gonna be relevant in the conversation for winning the Super Bowl. I remember last year, there was a time when everybody was like, the Steeler team actually could make a run. And I that was early in the season. It was in the first half. So it was a little premature.

Grand Schwabini (11:48): But that was being said, you know, so what makes you think that it's not gonna happen again?

Hockey Jesus (11:55): Well, it may happen again because the schedule came out.

Unknown Speaker (11:59): That's right.

Hockey Jesus (11:59): And the early part of the schedule looks good. And the gauntlet comes later in the year.

Unknown Speaker (12:06): Like it always does. Right?

Hockey Jesus (12:08): Yeah. But, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb here and I'm gonna say that as as Aaron Rodgers turns 43 mid season, I don't think he's going to get better from 42 to 43. I don't think he's going to get more mobile from 42 to 43. So I I expect him to be about the same as last year. And and really what that means is if the line can protect him, he'll have some good games.

Hockey Jesus (12:37): If the line doesn't protect him, he's in trouble. Really simple as that.

Unknown Speaker (12:42): Okay. So so

Unknown Speaker (12:44): They did have Mason McCormick in the on the front line today.

Unknown Speaker (12:47): So I like

Unknown Speaker (12:48): it.

Unknown Speaker (12:48): For what it's worth.

Technical Director (12:49): You know, you guys know where I'm coming from though. Like, it's it's kind of a it's this deep black hole that the steelers have put themselves in in the quarterback situation because we know everything about Aaron Rodgers and his age that you guys just talked about. Okay. And we also know that he does have a familiarity with Mike McCarthy's offense, and it's going to be a more offensive team. So it's almost like, well, that offset the age versus no offense last year.

Technical Director (13:20): Even though the offense was a little better with Rogers, it was still fucking anemic. You know what I mean? It was just anemic.

Grand Schwabini (13:26): Mhmm.

Technical Director (13:27): And it was not exciting at all. And, you know, they added Pittman. They have Metcalf. They drafted a guy. Their line is young.

Technical Director (13:34): McCarthy's an offensive minded guy. They signed a different running back. They still have Warren. So it's hard not to say, God, it should be better anyway. You know, the offense should be better anyway.

Technical Director (13:47): It just should. The real question is the defense. This this guy that they brought that this guy that they brought in, make a banner for the defense. I'm gonna tell you guys what to do from now on.

Unknown Speaker (13:59): Well, I'm

Unknown Speaker (14:00): gonna say make a damn banner

Unknown Speaker (14:01): for the defense.

Technical Director (14:02): Yeah, I know. Anyway, why don't you make the defense banner?

Unknown Speaker (14:05): Okay. I'll make it.

Unknown Speaker (14:06): Why don't you get a grip and just have just do the show?

Unknown Speaker (14:09): Get a grip. Do the show.

Hockey Jesus (14:11): Stop being so angry.

Technical Director (14:12): Oh, speaking of angry, speaking of angry.

Hockey Jesus (14:17): How's your anger management class going by

Unknown Speaker (14:18): the way? It's going really well. See this right here?

Unknown Speaker (14:21): Mhmm.

Hockey Jesus (14:22): I don't think anybody can read that.

Unknown Speaker (14:23): Yeah. I know. I'm gonna have to zoom in. I'm gonna have to zoom in. Let's see.

Technical Director (14:30): Alright. Well, let's go back to the Aaron Rogers thing. You know, don't worry. Yeah. You know what that's gonna say.

Unknown Speaker (14:35): Right. Yeah. You pay for our audience.

Unknown Speaker (14:38): Yeah. I did.

Hockey Jesus (14:38): That's great for our fans who are tuning in. Yeah. Because they want to.

Technical Director (14:42): Oh, no. It's people that, you know, people that, that wanna that wanna

Unknown Speaker (14:48): Oh, banner. So defense. Defense. Defense.

Unknown Speaker (14:53): Yeah. So

Unknown Speaker (14:55): I was looking for a fence.

Unknown Speaker (14:56): Yeah. It's it's a little fence.

Technical Director (14:58): Mike Lawrence said the bad news about Rogers is that Mason and will will never see the field. Look, I I

Grand Schwabini (15:07): There's speculation Will's not even gonna make the team.

Technical Director (15:09): Listen, man. Will Howard was built or built. Bill Cowher was, Mike Tomlin's pick. That's just the way the NFL works. I mean, that's that's my opinion.

Technical Director (15:20): He he was Mike Tomlin's pick. I mean, McCarthy might think he's a good kid and something, but he's never gonna see the this is my opinion. He's never gonna see the field. They're not gonna keep core four quarterbacks. No.

Technical Director (15:33): And Rudolph, guys, Mason Rudolph is not an NFL starter. I mean, you you agree with me. Right? Grant Swabini? Not no.

Technical Director (15:43): Just basically not an NFL starter.

Hockey Jesus (15:47): Well, he's better than a few. I I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (15:51): Tyler Shuck?

Unknown Speaker (15:52): Yeah. He's better than a few.

Unknown Speaker (15:53): I mean But you're talking about fringe guys.

Hockey Jesus (15:55): Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm look. He's he's certainly not a top 20 NFL starter. I'll give you that.

Technical Director (16:03): Pat off track. When Cline's camera freezes, it's always at his most simple Jack face. That's funny.

Unknown Speaker (16:11): That's the way it works.

Technical Director (16:12): Arthur Smith even Agatha Christie wouldn't use that name. Right. So I I don't, you know, I I I did this team is an enigma. I think you said that last week.

Hockey Jesus (16:25): Mhmm. Like Aaron Rodgers. I they're don't an enigma at all. I think they're absolutely a 100% predictable. Right.

Hockey Jesus (16:34): They are

Grand Schwabini (16:35): Well, not predict let me challenge you on that. They're not as predictable this year because they don't have TOML. So that doesn't mean they'll be predictable good. They could be predictable terrible.

Unknown Speaker (16:48): I yeah. I mean, I

Grand Schwabini (16:49): I think the downside is much greater this year than the upside, but but

Unknown Speaker (16:54): Well, that's true.

Grand Schwabini (16:54): But I don't think they're I don't think I think they're anything but predictable this year with McCarthy.

Hockey Jesus (16:59): I kinda think that they're gonna end up in the same place as they always do.

Grand Schwabini (17:03): I I feel that way too about this team. 100%.

Technical Director (17:06): Okay. Let's let's take a look at this right here. This says quick promote. Right? Says quick promote.

Unknown Speaker (17:16): Nobody's interested. Yeah. Course they're not.

Technical Director (17:18): They're not interested when they're about to lose. Quick promote. Objective reach May 11.

Unknown Speaker (17:27): That

Unknown Speaker (17:28): was last Monday.

Unknown Speaker (17:30): Have you learned anything?

Technical Director (17:31): And the spend was $24.99, $25, 32,000 impressions, 99 link clicks, cost per link guys. I boosted the show from the emergency room And and you guys actually thought that it was, like, 10,000 views. I I wasn't trying to trick you.

Unknown Speaker (17:55): Well, let

Unknown Speaker (17:55): me ask you something. You would ask me.

Hockey Jesus (17:57): Let me let me let me ask you something. So, basically, last week, we had pretty much like a consistent 40 eyeballs on us at any particular moment in time. Right. Right. Right now, we've got 11.

Unknown Speaker (18:10): Okay. And you're here.

Unknown Speaker (18:11): I can see the point, but

Unknown Speaker (18:13): I Four x. I forgot. You don't know Matt.

Technical Director (18:15): I forgot to put the hashtags in the original x.

Unknown Speaker (18:18): It must have been the hashtags. Yeah. The hashtags. That's a big part of it too.

Unknown Speaker (18:22): Hey. Did you know what happened the last time there was a 43 year old quarterback in the NFL?

Unknown Speaker (18:27): They won the Super Bowl?

Unknown Speaker (18:28): They did win the Super

Hockey Jesus (18:29): Thomas Brady?

Grand Schwabini (18:30): It was a one TB 12 the second.

Unknown Speaker (18:33): Well, you

Unknown Speaker (18:35): know, anything It can happen.

Unknown Speaker (18:37): Anything anything's possible. Yeah. Anything's possible.

Grand Schwabini (18:40): I'm gonna go with that. If you turn 43 and you're still playing in the NFL, you can win a Super Bowl.

Unknown Speaker (18:50): There you go. You absolutely can. That's it. I'm sure some 43 year old

Unknown Speaker (18:54): One for one. Bet you do. Percent chance.

Hockey Jesus (18:56): I'd bet there's another 43 year old punter maybe that won the Super Bowl. Maybe like a maybe like a Shawn Landetta. Somebody like that.

Grand Schwabini (19:05): Like a George Blanda.

Unknown Speaker (19:08): Or the Raiders. The

Unknown Speaker (19:09): Raiders in Super Bowl eight.

Unknown Speaker (19:11): Mhmm. Yeah.

Grand Schwabini (19:13): Yeah. Well, anyway Jan Stenerud, Anyway,

Hockey Jesus (19:16): do we, do we want to talk about the Steelers anymore or are we ready to move on?

Technical Director (19:22): Well, I think we need to talk about their defense at least a little bit. Why? Or maybe we need to talk about the fact that Aaron Rogers was in town and somehow the steelers were able to convince most of the local media that we never talked to him. And then boom. There's a $25,000,000 contract.

Technical Director (19:43): Like like, it took you ten minutes to do that. Mhmm. I mean, of course, he was here all weekend. Yeah. Somebody saw him up at North Park or, you know, up at an ice cream joint at North Park.

Unknown Speaker (19:54): Eating the ice cream.

Technical Director (19:55): Of course, his agent was on the phone with them the whole time.

Unknown Speaker (19:58): Mhmm.

Unknown Speaker (19:58): Why do we let these guys tell us that, oh, alright. They they really didn't they really didn't know anything was going on.

Hockey Jesus (20:06): Your face actually is frozen this time.

Technical Director (20:12): Damn it unfroze as soon as I so

Grand Schwabini (20:14): Well, let's talk about the offensive line in OTA. How about

Unknown Speaker (20:18): that? Okay.

Grand Schwabini (20:19): Do you think about Mason McCormick was playing the right side guard? Now he's playing the left side guard. Mhmm. Right. Spencer Anderson moves into the right side guard.

Grand Schwabini (20:28): K. And they flop Troy Fontanu from the right side to the left side

Unknown Speaker (20:33): Mhmm.

Grand Schwabini (20:33): And have Dylan Cook on the right side. They're not gonna throw the rookie in there right away. The rookie actually taking some snaps with the first team later in OTA, but that's who they started out. Mhmm. I mean, that's a pretty terrible offensive line, don't you think?

Grand Schwabini (20:49): I mean

Hockey Jesus (20:50): Not necessarily. We it remains to be seen.

Grand Schwabini (20:53): I mean, Mason McCormick played okay. Anderson filled in well. Frazier's okay, but we don't know. Once again, it's the good old tackle experiment. Let's play them on the right side and then let's move them to the left side.

Grand Schwabini (21:06): You know? It's like, why can't they just keep their tackles in one set position and just move the other guy?

Unknown Speaker (21:14): Well, I think that they think that

Grand Schwabini (21:15): It's a blind side. Right? So that's it.

Hockey Jesus (21:18): IMAX, they wanna they wanna keep on the right. Yeah. So that's why they're moving Fontana.

Grand Schwabini (21:23): And it is, you know, Roger's blind side. You don't want you don't want to hit you don't want him getting blindsided because he absolutely will fumble the ball if if he gets hit like that. 1000%. And the pecking order, Rogers was taking the first team reps. Will Howard lined up as the quarterback to interesting.

Grand Schwabini (21:43): And Rudolph was three and Drew Aller was, you know, cleaning the balls, I guess. But I mean, and once again, I think with the rookies, what are you gonna really learn in OTAs with the rookies? Not much.

Unknown Speaker (21:57): Not much.

Grand Schwabini (21:58): Not much. Not much. I think it's just basically getting the team together and saying, you go play with the first team this time. You go play with the second team. But it doesn't really matter, don't think.

Hockey Jesus (22:07): It's really more, you know, do the coaches feel like somebody stands out? That that's really what it's down to.

Unknown Speaker (22:15): Maybe.

Hockey Jesus (22:15): You know, may maybe there's some, you know, wide receiver or something that, you know, they're just like, wow. Like, we didn't expect this from him. You know, that kind of a thing.

Grand Schwabini (22:24): Do you really think Will Howard is is gonna make this team?

Unknown Speaker (22:27): No. I do. I do actually. Yeah. I do.

Unknown Speaker (22:31): I mean,

Grand Schwabini (22:31): he hasn't played a single down for us. Like he's a six round pick. It's easy just to drop a six round pick even if he is a quarterback that, well, you know, won a national championship.

Hockey Jesus (22:41): I don't know. You know, I mean, look. Now you could say that McCarthy is, you know, hitching his wagon to Drew Allard because he drafted him.

Unknown Speaker (22:51): Maybe.

Hockey Jesus (22:51): Right? But he did come in and made a lot of give a lot of praise to Will Howard.

Unknown Speaker (22:59): He

Hockey Jesus (22:59): did. And so here he is in the first OTAs and he's he's, you know, the second team. So I I do think it leads to him being on this squad. I I think I think what you're looking at is you're gonna have Mason Rudolph, Will Howard, and Rogers, and you're gonna find Drew Allard on the injury report somewhere. That's that's what I'm thinking.

Grand Schwabini (23:22): It's possible, but I just don't think they're gonna keep four quarterbacks. That's why that's why I I say it's

Technical Director (23:28): just No no way McCarthy keeps four quarters. He's smarter than

Hockey Jesus (23:31): that. Well, do you consider having one on on the injured list keeping four?

Technical Director (23:36): No. Maybe on the practice squad.

Grand Schwabini (23:39): Well, no. They're not gonna keep Aller on the practice squad.

Technical Director (23:42): No. I I I here's what I think about Drew Aller. I I think Drew Aller is the guy that Mike McCarthy has identified as who he thinks he can coach into being an NFL quarterback. I think it's really as simple as that. And I don't think that Mike McCarthy thinks that Drew Aller is going to be the next whatever you wanna call it, Ben Roethlisberger because that's what everybody wants to compare him to.

Technical Director (24:08): It's kinda like when Cal Ripken left it. There's your Orioles reference, boys. There it is. We need a special siren.

Unknown Speaker (24:15): Just put a gun to my head.

Unknown Speaker (24:16): We need a

Unknown Speaker (24:19): listen, I

Technical Director (24:21): want to, I'm going to tell you guys something right now. Want to give a shout out. I'm going to give a shout out to my therapist. Okay. Who's allowed who watched listens to our show every Tuesday, every Tuesday morning sports psychologist, no, every Tuesday morning on the way into work before his session with me.

Technical Director (24:44): And then, and then he encourages us to, to, continue doing this because he thinks all three of us have a really special talent. I'm just telling you the truth, man.

Hockey Jesus (24:54): So, that's wonderful, very warm and shabby.

Unknown Speaker (24:56): He will remain nameless because, you know, we just want to get

Unknown Speaker (24:59): confidentiality. You can, you can appreciate confidentiality.

Technical Director (25:02): So anyway, my point about Drew Aller is that I don't think Mike McCarthy thinks he's going to be the next Ben Roethlisberger. I don't think Mike McCarthy thinks anything other than I see what I need to see in this quarterback that I I can coach if he's got the head space for it. And, you know, they do a lot of extensive interviews and psychological testing in the NFL. So obviously his scores led him to think that he can do it. The wonder lick, right?

Technical Director (25:33): It doesn't, it doesn't mean that McCarthy thinks he's going be that great, but McCarthy thinks I can coach this kid. He's gonna be on the team. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the number two quarterback. Because I'm sorry. Mason Rudolph, Mike McCarthy has same thing.

Technical Director (25:51): He has nothing to do with Mason Rudolph and Mason Rudolph's career.

Hockey Jesus (25:55): But you have to understand though. McCarthy still has a boss and that's Rooney. Okay?

Unknown Speaker (26:00): Yes. That's true.

Hockey Jesus (26:01): And there's a reason why Aaron Rodgers is on this football team and that's because the Rooney's demand a win now approach. Right. And Mason Rudolph is what is called for in a win now approach to have a seasoned veteran backup quarterback. He's gonna be on the team unless they find someone to trade him to.

Technical Director (26:22): Yeah. Right. Mhmm. That's true. I I I don't disagree with you there except that I think that because McCarthy is the hometown guy for real and does have pedigree that he is going to have more say in some of this.

Technical Director (26:41): I'm not going to say that Mike Tomlin had, because everybody knows Mike Tomlin did have like Rooney would do whatever Tomlin wanted him to do. So I think McCarthy's going to be able to do that as well. I mean, remember they let Mason Rudolph go, you know, they, they, they didn't really think they had an answer for him at the time. They just, well, they did think it, but they let him go. They let him sign with Tennessee and in Tennessee, he sucked,

Unknown Speaker (27:08): you know, he barely played there.

Unknown Speaker (27:09): Well, I know, but the point is, look, he's not the answer, guys. Alright? No. And this not. This is what

Hockey Jesus (27:15): I You love to say that somebody's not the answer. You know, there's there's only, like, a few answers in the entire NFL.

Unknown Speaker (27:23): I know it makes me write, like, more often than not. Like, like

Unknown Speaker (27:27): Pat Mahomes is the answer. Yes. You love saying, like, Mason Rudolph is not the answer. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (27:33): That's

Unknown Speaker (27:33): right. Can't everybody say that? Of course, they can.

Unknown Speaker (27:36): Right. Do they say it? No. They don't.

Hockey Jesus (27:39): That's why they that's why they come here to the sports sports.

Unknown Speaker (27:42): That's exactly right.

Unknown Speaker (27:43): Yes. To hear what TD has to offer. That's anyway,

Technical Director (27:49): if you're watching on YouTube, please hit the hit the subscribe button, click notifications every Monday night at 7PM Eastern time. Are right here goofing off, and, shenanigans bound. And what else? What else guys? Oh, yeah.

Technical Director (28:05): The podcast. You can catch us on the podcast anytime you want on the iHeartRadio app, apple podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your freaking casts. Okay. Somebody make a banner for the pirates. You know, the hell with it.

Technical Director (28:20): We actually, you know, the grand swalbini definitely wants to talk about the pirates this week.

Unknown Speaker (28:24): Sure. Why would I was at the game? Well, and also,

Technical Director (28:29): your beloved Phillies swept them after and after coming back in dramatic fashion on Friday night.

Unknown Speaker (28:35): Yes. There were

Technical Director (28:36): a bunch of guys that I work with. It went down to the game on Friday night. They were from Philly. Yeah. They saw the comeback 32 jobs.

Technical Director (28:42): There's almost never 32 guys alive that can start as an NFL QB. Thank you, Pat. On track. That's exactly what I'm getting at. It makes me write more often than not.

Technical Director (28:52): It's selfish.

Hockey Jesus (28:53): Well, one thing I will say is that myself and Hunky Jesus last week, we talked a little bit about the pirates. And one of the things that we had talked about was just how erratic and generally bad the bullpen is.

Unknown Speaker (29:07): Oh, yeah.

Hockey Jesus (29:08): And the bullpen is really bad. And I remember I said to Steve, I said, you know, even though this guy is, you know, pitching well for them right now, I'm like, trust me. I've seen this guy on Phillies. I've seen this guy on the Orioles. And what do you know, he gives up a bases loaded, you know, double to Bryce Harper to blow that game.

Hockey Jesus (29:32): Yeah. Right? And the Santana

Unknown Speaker (29:35): That should have been a home run.

Hockey Jesus (29:36): Yeah. And Santana can't seem to, you know, he got some people out on Sunday, but he can't seem to get just about anybody out. So the bullpen is really an issue.

Grand Schwabini (29:50): It's terrible.

Hockey Jesus (29:51): It's really, it's really bad. And, know, they just they just ran into a team that, you know, the Phillies are playing hot baseball since switching to Don Mattingly. Hard as fuck out. Yeah. Like, you know, I mean, as good as Paul Skeens is, you know, if he's the best pitcher in the league, probably number two and number three are Zach Wheeler and Christopher Sanchez.

Hockey Jesus (30:12): So, you know, they were on and Pirates didn't get any runs off of them. So

Grand Schwabini (30:19): You're not gonna win many games when you don't score any runs.

Hockey Jesus (30:22): Right. Right. So it was a good series for the Phillies, a bad series for the Pirates. The one thing I would say is still kind of befuddling to me is that I I do realize that O'Neil Cruz is essentially having a good year.

Grand Schwabini (30:42): Right.

Hockey Jesus (30:42): But boy, when he faces a good pitcher, he seems like he's completely lost at the plate. You know?

Grand Schwabini (30:48): He's still learning. Right?

Hockey Jesus (30:50): He really does. He apparent apparently, he he and Christopher Sanchez are apparently friends. I guess they're from the same, you know, wherever they're from.

Unknown Speaker (30:58): Okay.

Hockey Jesus (30:59): And Not a problem. And Azuna Azuna said to Sanchez, I'm gonna hit a home run off you today. And Sanchez ended up striking him out four times.

Unknown Speaker (31:12): I hope he didn't bet him.

Hockey Jesus (31:14): I don't know. But yeah. But I guess, you know, the bottom line is is that what what's what's kind of a a problem, I I think, like from a Pirates point of view, is that, you know, the game on Friday night, you know, if if the Pirates want to make the playoffs, that's a game that they have to win. Yeah. You know, you're up what?

Hockey Jesus (31:37): Was it five nothing or six nothing. And then it was like eight to, you know, that game. And the bullpen just completely imploded. So what were your thoughts, guys?

Technical Director (31:56): I agree with absolutely everything you just said.

Grand Schwabini (31:59): I think the problem with the pirates are they're reverting to the mean, which is they weren't really that good to begin with. Now they're not getting pitching and they're not getting hitting. Before they were at least getting some some hitting. I mean, they were, I think, one time in the top 10 hitting. Mhmm.

Grand Schwabini (32:17): Now they're back to the middle of the pack if that. And let's face it. The pitching hasn't been great because their bullpen hasn't been able to to, you know, bail out, you know, bad starts.

Unknown Speaker (32:28): Right.

Grand Schwabini (32:28): And skiing's not it still is it still is pitching lights out.

Unknown Speaker (32:31): I don't

Grand Schwabini (32:32): care what anybody says. You take away that first. You if you take away that

Unknown Speaker (32:36): Two bad starts.

Grand Schwabini (32:37): You you take away that first start, and he's he's he's his ERA is something like 1.7 Yeah. Or something like that. So, I mean, so, I mean, skiing isn't the problem. And No. And I don't think pitching starting pitching is the problem.

Grand Schwabini (32:50): It's just that they don't they don't have a closer, and then they're they're messing around with who the closer should be, and that's messing up what's going on, you know, in between Mhmm. You know, the end in in the beginning. So I don't think they can fix it either because, I mean, you just just can't go out there and buy pitchers at this point in time. Right? So either you gotta bring people up from the minors, which doesn't seem like they have anybody, or you hope that your starting pitchers go a little bit longer.

Grand Schwabini (33:18): And they actually haven't had there's like I said, their starting pitcher hasn't been terrible. So I just don't see them fixing this problem. I don't the only way you can fix it is hit better. And I I think they're hitting their hitting days are, you know, they're good hitting days are behind them. And didn't O'Hearn get hurt?

Unknown Speaker (33:36): Yeah. Yeah. He

Grand Schwabini (33:37): did. So, I mean, so now O'Hearn's out of the lineup. Right? So that day, I can't help. Mhmm.

Grand Schwabini (33:43): Mhmm. You're not it's not like you're gonna, you know, Well, Zuno could never play in the field, so he's always gonna be a DH. Mhmm. I mean, so now you gotta bring somebody up to fill in for O'Hearn and, oh, boy. I mean, that's not gonna be that's not gonna be a a good swap for from the hitting aspects.

Hockey Jesus (34:00): I think I I would I would say this is that the the Pirates are still very young in their superstar potential players, You know? And like, basically, I'm talking about O'Neil Cruz and Connor Griffin. Right?

Grand Schwabini (34:18): Right.

Hockey Jesus (34:19): You know? And and the reality is is because they're, you know, they're hoping to launch themselves to becoming stars or all stars. Right? You're gonna have a very inconsistent performance.

Unknown Speaker (34:33): That's true.

Hockey Jesus (34:33): You know, you're gonna have one game where they look great and another game where where they don't. Mhmm. And and that's why, like, you know, you know, certain guys are that's why, like, for example, they're both probably hitting like about two sixty. Mhmm. Right?

Hockey Jesus (34:49): Whereas, like, the true stars are usually hitting, you know, two eighty on up.

Unknown Speaker (34:54): Yeah. Two eighty consistently. Right.

Hockey Jesus (34:56): Right. And, like, you know, so for example, like, I just think, like, it happened to be a weekend where, like, the Phillies stars, like Schwarber and Harper, like, they just showed up as stars this weekend.

Unknown Speaker (35:09): Yeah.

Hockey Jesus (35:09): And and the and the pirates have that star. Just don't have that level of star yet.

Unknown Speaker (35:15): Right. That's a really good point. You know? Yep. And that's I think that's the way it's gonna be for really the rest of the season.

Grand Schwabini (35:21): I I I said they weren't a playoff team, and I think they're just just proving me right. I don't think they're I don't think they're gonna quite get the 88 game, 88 wins. I don't think they're a team that's gonna get the 88 wins.

Technical Director (35:34): Type one or two in the chat. Pirates falling back to the same old pirates. Here, I I I wanna talk about something that we always talk about. Is there what's going on with your iPhone over there, buddy?

Grand Schwabini (35:47): My wife has texted me. She she forgot that I I'm on she's on California time and I'm not. So I gotta remind her I'm on the show.

Unknown Speaker (35:54): She's 50. What is she? 62?

Unknown Speaker (35:58): I don't know. She's old. Boy, I'm sorry, Susan. Mean, we're all old.

Technical Director (36:05): All old man. Made that happen and I'm really I I'm very sorry.

Grand Schwabini (36:10): That's okay. Yeah. We all have But I

Technical Director (36:13): I was gonna ask like she's like in her late fifties. Sorry again. And and she doesn't realize she forgets that there's different time zones.

Unknown Speaker (36:23): Don't you? No. No?

Unknown Speaker (36:25): No. Do you ever Well, that's because there's a different time zone. That's because

Grand Schwabini (36:28): you never leave this time zone.

Technical Director (36:30): That is not true. I do leave this time zone.

Unknown Speaker (36:33): When?

Unknown Speaker (36:34): When we go to the Turks or Grand Cayman, one of those.

Unknown Speaker (36:37): Not sure when you go to The Caribbean,

Unknown Speaker (36:40): you don't know where you go on vacation. Don't you think that's a problem?

Technical Director (36:43): Yeah. Well, you know, we go on a lot of vacations. What can I say? I'm not going to hide it anymore. You know, it's just, it's part of who we are.

Unknown Speaker (36:51): It's out of it. It's out there in the open.

Technical Director (36:53): All right. Look, let's go back to the pirates here. What I wanted to talk about was this. We talk about run differential all the time. And, and, and I know it's, it's a very simple statistic, but I like simple things.

Technical Director (37:05): I'm a complicated individual who likes simple things. Right?

Unknown Speaker (37:08): Plus minus. We know.

Unknown Speaker (37:10): Okay.

Unknown Speaker (37:10): Run the run differential. We know.

Unknown Speaker (37:12): Yeah. Well, here

Unknown Speaker (37:13): it comes.

Technical Director (37:13): Here it comes. Exactly. And, let me, let me get it up to where we can see it in on top of the comments. So previously, if you look previously, why is this doing this? The pirates were plus 35 plus 31.

Technical Director (37:33): Now they're plus 18. They're falling down. The two top teams are now, you know, the the brewers and the cubs plus 42 for the cubs plus 61 run differential, run scored versus runs allowed. They're starting to rise to the top. I expect the brewers to once again overtake the cubs.

Technical Director (37:54): Now the cubs have been on a losing streak lately. Alright? And you see the pirates have fallen all the way back, and the cardinals have come back to earth a little bit. I mean, they've got a great record right now, but even theirs is getting worse and Cincinnati with the negative differential. So what I'm saying is we're starting to see that regression to the mean because we had some people that got off the hot starts and, you know, O'Neil Cruz was one of them.

Technical Director (38:22): So what are we going to do? Let's bring up let's just for the, just for the heck of it, just for the heck of it. Let's bring up the pirates, and let's bring up O'Neil Cruz's stats.

Unknown Speaker (38:34): Oh, boy. Are you sure you wanna do that?

Unknown Speaker (38:37): Yes. Absolutely. It's not. Some of them are good. Some of them are good.

Technical Director (38:41): It yeah. It's it's it's I know it's not really fair, but it really is kind of fair. So, you know, let's let's let's just that's that's exactly right.

Grand Schwabini (38:52): It's just the numbers.

Technical Director (38:53): O'Neil O'Neil Cruz. Okay. He's now batting two fifty nine. His career batting average, I think is right around, believe it or not two fifty. And I looked that up last week.

Technical Director (39:08): So he's regressing to the mean there. He does have 10 home runs. That's great. Excellent. Excellent.

Technical Director (39:15): 32 RBIs tenth. His OPS is not horrible. Seven eighty nine. Right? But let's, let's take a look at, his batting situation, you know, in the last seven days, six games, 11 strikeouts.

Technical Director (39:36): That's almost two strikeouts a game.

Hockey Jesus (39:39): Although he did pitch against two of the better pitchers in the league.

Technical Director (39:43): Well, right. But it does. It's 72 strikeouts in 189 at bats. Do the math HJ since you're so good at that.

Grand Schwabini (39:51): I wasn't doing the math. I was watching game seven.

Technical Director (39:53): Okay. 72 divided by one eighty nine.

Grand Schwabini (39:58): 72 divided by one eighty nine.

Unknown Speaker (40:00): That's that's

Grand Schwabini (40:00): a point to no point. Let's see. It's a little less than point five.

Unknown Speaker (40:06): So

Unknown Speaker (40:06): It's like forty

Grand Schwabini (40:07): four three seven five.

Technical Director (40:09): Okay. So he's 44% strikeout ratio. That's almost one out of every other at bat he strikes out. Okay. That that's regressing to the mean.

Unknown Speaker (40:20): He's on pace to set the strikeout record this year. All right. So yes. Awesome. Previous, previous

Unknown Speaker (40:28): number one, know, number one,

Technical Director (40:31): I went, I went back and forth for, for a while about, you know, actually I've, I've said from the beginning, was a bum. Remember that for a couple years. And then finally I was like, he's a total bum. And then I learned he did the left handed pitcher thing and I thought, okay, well, he's trying. Mhmm.

Technical Director (40:48): Alright. Well, now what he's showing me is that he's been trying and he's not really getting any better. Does that does that make sense?

Hockey Jesus (40:57): Well, $2.59 is better than 200. Yeah, but it's better in that respect.

Technical Director (41:03): It is better than that respect, but that's what I'm saying. What you're, what, what we're locked in on his last year was actually a bad year for him. His career average is two sixty or two fifty five or two fifty somewhere in that range, which is not horrible.

Unknown Speaker (41:18): Right.

Technical Director (41:18): Okay. So last year was a terrible year. This year, he's regressing to the mean after a hot start. He's still on pace to break the strikeout record. He's not any better.

Unknown Speaker (41:29): He just has a couple more home runs that make it look like, whew, you might hit 40 this year and he does have stolen base. Everybody's gonna steal a lot of bases. Yeah. Well, he also strikes out, you know? So what happened?

Technical Director (41:42): Did we lose, did we lose you? He's coming back.

Unknown Speaker (41:44): Yeah.

Technical Director (41:44): What happened? Hockey Jesus? I, we can hear you

Unknown Speaker (41:48): talking about Bruce. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (41:51): All right.

Grand Schwabini (41:53): No, you know, I think the bandwidth in, in, you know, your three g world can't handle YouTube TV and StreamYard at the same time.

Technical Director (42:03): Maybe. I I'm trying anyway, it doesn't matter.

Unknown Speaker (42:06): But I'm back on. It's good.

Unknown Speaker (42:08): Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

Grand Schwabini (42:10): So I was hidden behind that, that, poll that nobody's doing anyway. So Yeah. Yeah. I can take that down.

Unknown Speaker (42:15): Okay. Let's take it.

Unknown Speaker (42:16): Yeah. Yeah.

Technical Director (42:18): Hey, we know when to give up on something. Absolutely. We know when to give up on something. So listen, if you're catching us on, if you're catching us on X because, you know, the post was boosted and you picked us up in your timeline. Thank you very much.

Unknown Speaker (42:35): Thank you very much. And Still zero zero in game seven.

Hockey Jesus (42:40): You still like using that word timeline.

Unknown Speaker (42:42): Nobody uses that word. Seconds left.

Unknown Speaker (42:45): What do

Unknown Speaker (42:45): they call it?

Unknown Speaker (42:45): What do they call it?

Unknown Speaker (42:47): Just like on your feed. Nobody

Unknown Speaker (42:49): Oh, feed. They use

Unknown Speaker (42:49): feed. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (42:50): Okay. Yeah. Store.

Technical Director (42:51): God forbid. I mean, is a guy who was like, I don't really get on social media except a creep on people when I'm trying to hire them to like now he's like a face.

Grand Schwabini (43:00): Everybody, everybody does it.

Technical Director (43:03): That's what you told me, dude. Back in the day,

Unknown Speaker (43:05): back in the day, ten

Technical Director (43:07): years ago. Media because, you know, you check on people you might hire because you never know they might be like secretly like Nazis. You know?

Unknown Speaker (43:16): They could be.

Unknown Speaker (43:18): I don't recall saying that.

Unknown Speaker (43:19): But no. I I never If they're secretly

Unknown Speaker (43:22): I didn't wanna hire.

Unknown Speaker (43:23): Find out on Facebook.

Hockey Jesus (43:24): I didn't wanna hire people that I could look up on Facebook and see that they do nothing but get extremely drunk and act like a fool. Yeah. You know, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. That's why it's there.

Unknown Speaker (43:36): That's kinda like,

Unknown Speaker (43:37): now now let's show your truth.

Technical Director (43:39): Let's take this one step further because I like where we're going here.

Unknown Speaker (43:43): You do.

Technical Director (43:43): Okay. Yeah, absolutely. So back in the day, back in the day, you went on a job interview. This is back when we went on job interviews. So no social media,

Grand Schwabini (43:53): on job interviews.

Technical Director (43:55): I know, I know, but let me get this out. Okay. So, so everybody can understand. You go on a job interview. It takes about an hour.

Technical Director (44:03): It's the typical, we all know what those were like. You meet your buddy at the bar after work that night. And you know, you have a few drinks, you get a little wild. You're all happy because you think you nailed the interview. And then all of a sudden you notice that the guy that interviewed has been sitting at the end of the bar all night long, just watching you.

Unknown Speaker (44:27): Would that have been okay?

Unknown Speaker (44:29): Yeah. It would have been okay.

Hockey Jesus (44:31): Well, he's in the bar. He's there for entertainment

Unknown Speaker (44:33): Followed you to the bar.

Unknown Speaker (44:35): I wouldn't want to I wouldn't want to work for that person.

Unknown Speaker (44:38): Exactly.

Unknown Speaker (44:39): That'd be strange.

Unknown Speaker (44:40): That's right. But that's what you're doing on Facebook. You're going, I'm gonna follow you to the bar. No. I'm basically You're creeping on Facebook.

Hockey Jesus (44:47): No. What I'm doing is I'm trying to see if you're intelligent or not.

Unknown Speaker (44:50): Are you are you are you are you Do you understand? Are you what I'm saying?

Unknown Speaker (44:53): Yeah. I don't I don't agree with your point though because

Unknown Speaker (44:56): Oh my god.

Grand Schwabini (44:57): If you're putting this out on social media, then you want people to see it. Right. Which means everybody can see it. Not just your friends. Right.

Unknown Speaker (45:04): Everybody can see it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. If you're going to the bar afterwards, you're going there to meet your buddies.

Grand Schwabini (45:10): Mhmm. If a guy follows you in his car there, he's perfectly allowed to. But like Mark said, I would not wanna work for somebody like that because they have trust issues. And do I wanna work with somebody who has trust issues? I do not.

Technical Director (45:24): Well, isn't creeping on somebody on Facebook to

Unknown Speaker (45:26): see Are we talking about are we talking about the pirates?

Unknown Speaker (45:29): We were.

Unknown Speaker (45:30): No. No. What we talked like, all over the place. You are really

Unknown Speaker (45:34): spun off

Unknown Speaker (45:34): tonight. Over the place. He's spun off tonight.

Unknown Speaker (45:37): I mean, it's up. Is this

Unknown Speaker (45:38): is you amped

Unknown Speaker (45:39): up about. This is why I'm watching game seven. Because I'm just I'm just waiting for him to come back down the earth.

Unknown Speaker (45:44): What are you amped up about? What's wrong? What's wrong?

Unknown Speaker (45:47): I'm amped up. There's nothing wrong.

Unknown Speaker (45:49): Did you just freak out because a fly blew by you?

Technical Director (45:52): No. Oh. No, no, no. I'm I'm I'm amped up tonight because, you know, I I spent time with Rob Pratt at KDKA radio on Thursday last week, and you can follow him on Facebook. He's got 10 to like 10,000 followers.

Unknown Speaker (46:08): Oh boy. That was close. And,

Technical Director (46:10): and that was a lot of fun. And, I'm amped up because, we can finally start talking about, you know, the Steelers offense and all that stuff. I'm amped up because, the pirates are more of a story right now.

Unknown Speaker (46:26): Mhmm.

Technical Director (46:27): And I'm amped up because Actually,

Hockey Jesus (46:30): the pirates just got the greatest gift from god that Aaron Rodgers signed because if they didn't, they would have been getting drilled today.

Technical Director (46:37): Yeah. Absolutely. Mhmm. Absolutely. Mhmm.

Technical Director (46:39): And and the greatest gift from God. Yes. And, and listen, guys, we got something good going here. We're having a good time and I'm happy you guys are here. And, I got a lot to talk to you about after the show, I think, and you know, I'm amped up, man.

Unknown Speaker (46:57): Mark, let me ask you a question. You were at the game.

Unknown Speaker (47:00): I was. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (47:01): I heard I heard that you had, you know, tickets at a pretty, pretty nice, nice place.

Unknown Speaker (47:05): We did.

Unknown Speaker (47:06): You had you were you had some connection.

Unknown Speaker (47:07): A luxury box.

Unknown Speaker (47:09): So you were in a luxury box.

Unknown Speaker (47:10): Yes.

Grand Schwabini (47:11): What did you learn about the luxury boxes next year?

Technical Director (47:14): It's it's because he lives in Fox Chapel.

Unknown Speaker (47:16): Well, hey. He's connected.

Hockey Jesus (47:18): Yeah. No. Very, very interesting.

Unknown Speaker (47:20): This is a

Hockey Jesus (47:21): friend of my wife works for a very large company and they have access to a box.

Unknown Speaker (47:28): Shout out to your friend. Thank you very much.

Hockey Jesus (47:31): Yep. Shout out to them. And this this is like a really good box. So this is like basically, if you're looking straight out of our box, you see home plate, and then you're looking right down the line to first base.

Unknown Speaker (47:44): Nice. Okay. So that's that's awesome.

Unknown Speaker (47:48): It's a great, great spot.

Unknown Speaker (47:49): Uh-huh.

Hockey Jesus (47:51): And I noticed that well, one thing that was kinda funny was these people in the box next to us, to the right of us Mhmm. They wanted to start the wave. Okay?

Unknown Speaker (48:03): I hate people like that. I'm sorry. I'm I'm not a big fan.

Hockey Jesus (48:06): Which that in itself is stupid. Yeah. But but anyway, they wanted to start the wave and they wanted to go our way. And we were just like, well, there's nobody, like, three entire luxury boxes to the left of us. Right.

Hockey Jesus (48:23): Which is basically home plate to third base.

Unknown Speaker (48:25): Okay.

Hockey Jesus (48:26): There's nobody there. The lights are off. It's closed. Okay? And it's the only three, like all the other luxury boxes.

Hockey Jesus (48:34): Had good attendance. Right? Right. Yeah. Right.

Hockey Jesus (48:36): And so we're like

Unknown Speaker (48:37): That's curious.

Hockey Jesus (48:38): And so we're like, you you wanna start the wave the other way.

Unknown Speaker (48:41): Yeah. Go that way.

Hockey Jesus (48:42): Right. Right. But in It's gonna die. In doing that, I turned around and I asked the lady

Unknown Speaker (48:48): from the

Hockey Jesus (48:49): company and was like, why is there nobody in these boxes here? And she's like, those three boxes are Nuttings boxes, and there's never anybody in them.

Unknown Speaker (49:02): And So you're telling me Ben Sherrington isn't even up there watching.

Unknown Speaker (49:06): Right. So like Let's take a

Unknown Speaker (49:07): press box.

Hockey Jesus (49:08): The the thing that the thing that is what I find interesting is usually when you're watching, you know, a baseball game or football game or whatever, you know, you always see the picture of the, you know, the the owner and the GM, you know, in the luxury box. Right. You know, watching the game.

Unknown Speaker (49:26): You know, it's funny. You'd never see Nutting ever on a television.

Unknown Speaker (49:29): Do you

Unknown Speaker (49:29): ever see him?

Grand Schwabini (49:30): Never ever. I can't ever remember seeing it.

Unknown Speaker (49:32): What's he doing? Watching the game at home on TV. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (49:36): And and, like, well, first of all,

Unknown Speaker (49:37): I think He's gotta be watching the game. Right?

Hockey Jesus (49:39): I think what it says is he's not. I don't think he has any interest. I think he's just interested in making money. Like and and even so, like, even if if you were just like a good if you're a good guy, right, wouldn't you just be giving those seats out to friends of yours?

Grand Schwabini (49:59): Well, you know, we were talking about this.

Unknown Speaker (50:01): Right.

Grand Schwabini (50:02): Yeah. Why would he? Because now he's gotta pay for food for them.

Unknown Speaker (50:05): Right. Right.

Unknown Speaker (50:06): Right. And by the way and by the

Unknown Speaker (50:09): and by How much could that be? Can you know for you?

Grand Schwabini (50:12): It's I don't understand because he's putting money back into his pocket because he's making the profits off.

Unknown Speaker (50:17): And by and by the way getting a haircut on.

Unknown Speaker (50:19): And and by the way A little bit.

Unknown Speaker (50:20): And here He gave the box

Grand Schwabini (50:21): Not as much as everybody else.

Hockey Jesus (50:23): I got another interesting little nugget out of this too. So so if you don't know what goes on in these luxury boxes so there's, like, you know, basically, the the people who, you know, have this box. Right? There's about three or four people from the company, and they basically kinda, like, split up all the games. Somebody from the company has to be in the box at the game.

Unknown Speaker (50:45): That makes sense. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (50:45): And they're kind of just, like, making sure that, like, the food's there.

Technical Director (50:49): Well, nobody's and nobody's snorting lines in the bathroom.

Unknown Speaker (50:52): Well, wasn't really Not

Unknown Speaker (50:54): that kind of game.

Hockey Jesus (50:55): You didn't that? You didn't really add anything. So but but anyway, so we just like had our one person, and she's just more like one of us. Right? They did tell me that, you know, like, on the rare occasion that somebody is in one of those boxes, that it's like butler service.

Unknown Speaker (51:14): Oh, really?

Hockey Jesus (51:15): Yeah. So it's like really posh. If you

Unknown Speaker (51:18): know what that word Yeah. Because he's a you know what that word is. Right.

Unknown Speaker (51:23): High level executives coming in probably. Right.

Unknown Speaker (51:26): So, you know, just kind of

Unknown Speaker (51:28): Hey. Hey. That's interesting.

Unknown Speaker (51:29): You know what? I'm going to be at a game, and I just found out I'm gonna be at a game against the Dodgers in June. Yeah. I'll I'm gonna I'm gonna check it out. Yeah.

Technical Director (51:40): Shohei Ohtani.

Unknown Speaker (51:41): Yep. Ohtani is gonna be in town.

Unknown Speaker (51:43): Oh. I

Unknown Speaker (51:43): don't know if he'll be pitching or playing.

Unknown Speaker (51:45): Look. I I think that I Probably will. I cannot for the life of me. Tuesday. You know me.

Technical Director (51:50): I like to go. I like to look at both sides of things. I cannot for the life of me figure out why. Now the only thing I would say is that do they go does this woman who you talk to, this person, go to

Unknown Speaker (52:04): every table game? She doesn't go to every table game.

Unknown Speaker (52:07): Course not.

Technical Director (52:07): Right. So But I think it's I can't imagine that when they say they're always empty, he's not at a few games. I mean, you think maybe he is. Did you see weren't at the Skeens game. That was yesterday.

Unknown Speaker (52:18): That was yesterday.

Technical Director (52:19): So so maybe at the Skeens game, he's there.

Unknown Speaker (52:22): Maybe.

Unknown Speaker (52:23): You know what I mean?

Unknown Speaker (52:24): I mean,

Unknown Speaker (52:24): I don't know. All I all I know is that from somebody who is there for

Unknown Speaker (52:28): a lot,

Hockey Jesus (52:29): you know, 35, 40% of the game. Okay. He's never there.

Unknown Speaker (52:34): That says a lot.

Unknown Speaker (52:35): You know?

Unknown Speaker (52:36): That definitely says a lot. Yeah. That's that's 10. Listen. That's that's go ahead.

Unknown Speaker (52:40): Yeah.

Hockey Jesus (52:40): Go ahead. And two, I think Steve brought brought out the best. I don't I I know I and Steve, and I'm gonna say you too. We have never seen a shot of him in a box at a game, have you?

Technical Director (52:51): Not that I can think of.

Unknown Speaker (52:52): Can't Then again, in fairness to me, I don't watch a lot of games. So Right. So, you know Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (52:58): But I I mean, it's

Unknown Speaker (52:59): not like it's not like a hockey racer.

Unknown Speaker (53:01): I know. A couple years ago, I watched a whole bunch of games. Yeah. That was when they were brutally bad. Yeah.

Technical Director (53:07): Was hell. And I can tell you, I, from my memory, I don't remember seeing him in a box.

Unknown Speaker (53:14): Right.

Technical Director (53:15): You know, like them showing a shot of him. Mhmm. But at the same time, that's not a memorable moment of a broadcast, but you do see the other ones almost every game. Right. They show them almost every game.

Unknown Speaker (53:27): Right. They go to the owner's box, and there they are.

Unknown Speaker (53:30): Right.

Hockey Jesus (53:30): Football based ball. I think of the Phillies, and you'll see GM Dave Dombrowski, and you'll see the owner, Middleton. They're at every game. Yeah. Right.

Unknown Speaker (53:41): You know?

Unknown Speaker (53:41): Yeah. And and if I owned the team, I'd be at every damn game too.

Unknown Speaker (53:45): Right.

Technical Director (53:45): So, yeah, this is this is breaking breaking news here on the sports porch

Unknown Speaker (53:49): only because

Technical Director (53:50): now look. I bet you the media, the general media, that's the interesting thing. You think they don't know this?

Unknown Speaker (53:55): Oh, yeah. They have to know. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (53:57): Do they ever talk about it?

Unknown Speaker (53:59): They don't.

Unknown Speaker (54:00): They do not.

Unknown Speaker (54:01): Absolutely not. Here on the porch. Yes. Because we are not insiders.

Grand Schwabini (54:05): That's right. Don't really care what Nutting thinks.

Unknown Speaker (54:07): We don't care.

Unknown Speaker (54:09): Can we talk a little bit about hockey?

Unknown Speaker (54:11): I don't know, man. I don't know. I really don't.

Grand Schwabini (54:14): What I mean, there are The Stanley Cup playoffs.

Technical Director (54:17): Put up a hockey banner and do it. I told you what the new rules are. You know? And by the way, forensic files has been on the entire time in the studio instead of sports.

Unknown Speaker (54:28): I'm wondering why that is.

Technical Director (54:30): I knew you would. And look, it is one of the greatest shows on earth because of the people that you will see on Forensic Files.

Hockey Jesus (54:42): And Let's let's be honest. You basically watch Forensic Files so that you know how to avoid getting caught should you ever murder somebody.

Technical Director (54:53): And I'm, I'm not quite confident yet that I've learned everything.

Unknown Speaker (54:57): So it's, so it's on for that

Unknown Speaker (54:59): reason. It's a ways off.

Unknown Speaker (55:00): Well, now we have a banner up so we can talk about hockey.

Technical Director (55:03): Yeah. So what I'm going to tell you right here before HJ says a thing is that this is hockey Jesus right over here, next to me, below me on the screen. If you're watching on X or you're watching on YouTube or Facebook, he preaches on the podcast after every damn penguins game, every single freaking one. And, even when they're on the West Coast, he preaches. And now that the penguins are out of the playoffs and we're in the off season, and that's lining up for me to be kinda confusing.

Technical Director (55:37): He is, however, watching, of course Stanley hockey. Playoff. Playoff hockey. So And right

Unknown Speaker (55:44): now, we have the best hockey in the world.

Hockey Jesus (55:46): We have a game seven right now. Pat on tracks. Buffalo savers are up against it. They're down one to nothing.

Unknown Speaker (55:53): The savers.

Unknown Speaker (55:54): Yep. The savers.

Unknown Speaker (55:55): Sabers. They said the savers.

Unknown Speaker (55:56): I didn't say the same.

Unknown Speaker (55:57): You know? It was it was a little bit of a slip slip of a

Unknown Speaker (56:01): Did you hear me say savers?

Unknown Speaker (56:02): I I said I heard that v coming out, but you saved it with the b.

Hockey Jesus (56:06): Yeah. Actually Savers. You know what? If you really think about it, isn't savers actually a little bit better of a name? You know, in hockey, you make a save.

Unknown Speaker (56:15): What the hell is a saber?

Unknown Speaker (56:16): Yeah. A saber is a sword.

Unknown Speaker (56:18): A sword. Right?

Technical Director (56:19): Okay. Yeah. The and the Buffaloes are buffering. Hockey's a violent sport.

Grand Schwabini (56:27): Well, yes, you are correct. The the the Montreal Canadians kinda got a dumb goal.

Unknown Speaker (56:32): The Canadian.

Unknown Speaker (56:33): It went it went right off his gate. You know, one of those just shoot it to the net, goes off his gate. No kicking motion.

Unknown Speaker (56:39): Oh, jeez.

Grand Schwabini (56:40): Goal of by Philip Deneau who has scored his first that was his first goal he scored in all the playoffs too. So it's a double whammy. Those suck for sure.

Unknown Speaker (56:49): Double whammy.

Unknown Speaker (56:51): But

Grand Schwabini (56:51): let's let's talk a little bit about the playoffs. Carolina is in already. You know, it will be 11 games since they last played whenever they play next. Wow. 11 games.

Grand Schwabini (57:03): That's a that's a

Unknown Speaker (57:03): new In eleven days.

Grand Schwabini (57:04): Yeah. Well, yeah. Eleven. Eleven days. Yes.

Grand Schwabini (57:07): Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Eleven days. That's the longest wait in NHL history Really?

Grand Schwabini (57:12): Between games. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (57:13): That's so good.

Grand Schwabini (57:14): I don't know. It'll be it'll be interesting because, you know, they had a little bit of a wait too before they played against Philadelphia. Mhmm. And that didn't seem to hurt them at all.

Hockey Jesus (57:22): Looks like it's like they went on an Olympic break.

Grand Schwabini (57:25): Yeah. So, so I think I think no matter who plays tonight, I'm not really rooting for Montreal or Buffalo tonight, but I have to tell you, this has been the most entertaining series I've watched in a while. I mean, the fact that Buffalo came back after being down three nothing in game six was just absolutely phenomenal. But, you know, so I I don't think anybody's out of it. I I I predicted last well, after game six, I predicted that this would go down to a one goal lead with two minutes left.

Grand Schwabini (57:57): Somebody's gotta pull the goalie. Mhmm. And I don't know if they're gonna score it or not. So stay up and watch this game. I promise you will not be disappointed.

Grand Schwabini (58:04): The winner does take on Carolina in the West. The Avalanche will be playing the Las Vegas Knights. I don't I don't like the Knights. You know? They got Mitch Marner, and he's been lighting it up for them.

Grand Schwabini (58:17): He's been he's been great for them. Avalanche is, you know, they gotta be the best team in hockey, but I don't know. It's to me, it seems like they can't get to that next level. They're kinda like Carolina, you know? It's like they they're they're they're predicted to get to the championship there.

Grand Schwabini (58:40): Nobody's nobody's really taking them. Oh, I did because I want to see why picks were right. I took Tampa Bay. I should not have taken Bay, but I figured whoever won between Tampa Bay and Montreal would make it to would make it to the final. So I guess in some ways, I'm a little bit rooting for Montreal just to see if that's true.

Grand Schwabini (59:00): So they'll play each other. Either way, I think I think both series will be pretty good. I don't the West Coast series will be as good as as the East Coast. I'm I'm I'm really surprised by Carolina. I mean, they're excellent.

Grand Schwabini (59:13): They are an excellent, excellent team. And, you know, with with bringing on Taylor Hall and Stan Kovich Stan Kovich, I think I think they probably are a good end up. I did take Avalanche versus Carolina in the final. So I guess that's who I'll be rooting for. In other in other news, did you hear about Tortorella?

Unknown Speaker (59:36): Did you hear what happened?

Unknown Speaker (59:36): Yeah. I did. I did.

Unknown Speaker (59:38): Why did you fill in? Why didn't you fill in the fans?

Hockey Jesus (59:40): Well, basic basically, what happened was he got pissed he got pissed off and then just decided, like, we weren't gonna talk to the media. Right?

Unknown Speaker (59:51): Yeah. After they won games

Unknown Speaker (59:53): After they after they won.

Unknown Speaker (59:54): And to made the, you know, Western Conference.

Hockey Jesus (59:56): So they penalize them a second round draft pick.

Grand Schwabini (59:59): A second round draft pick and a $100,000 fine.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:05): Same. Just talk to the media. What what's

Grand Schwabini (1:00:08): He closed he closed the door so the media couldn't even interview players after game six.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:12): Right. Right.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:13): I mean, what a dead.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:15): He's just a moron. I mean,

Grand Schwabini (1:00:16): he does it to himself. Like Right. I don't know. Nobody even knows what his beef was. Right.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:20): It's just like he just decided to do it out of

Unknown Speaker (1:00:22): nowhere. Right.

Grand Schwabini (1:00:23): So that's Tortorella being but they are playing well for Tortorella. You know? Yeah. Like I told you, Tortorella has a has a a shelf life that comes by. And when it comes, it's just it's it's over for him.

Grand Schwabini (1:00:33): Mhmm. So who knows? Maybe he'll end up taking them to the finals. I I don't I'm not rooting for that. I'm not a Las Vegas fan nor am I a Tortorella fan.

Grand Schwabini (1:00:41): The baby pens are in the Atlantic finals. If they if they win the Atlantic finals, they'll be in the final four for the Calder Cup. They're one one in their series. They lost game two after after winning. They were leading in that game three three to one with like three minutes left and they ended up losing that game in overtime.

Grand Schwabini (1:01:02): So not a good way for them to lose, but I'm predicting that they're gonna make it to the Atlantic. They'll win the Atlantic and end up in the final four of the Cup. The IIHF is playing nobody cares. Nobody even knows what the IIHF. The only thing that's worth noting with the IIHF Mhmm.

Grand Schwabini (1:01:21): Is Sidney Crosby's playing. And do you know who his limates are?

Unknown Speaker (1:01:25): Is it Porta Martone.

Grand Schwabini (1:01:28): Yes. And Maclin Celebrini. Oh, yeah. You know, Celebrini is the captain of that team.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:32): They were just rear, which is Yeah. They were just saying Martone's having a really good Yeah. Tournament playing with

Grand Schwabini (1:01:37): those guys. And I mean, I I I you know, Martone's gonna be a good player. So I think he's definitely gonna be better than Michigoff. But For

Unknown Speaker (1:01:46): sure.

Grand Schwabini (1:01:47): He's just bigger. He he just he he looks like a hockey player. Yeah. You know? Mhmm.

Grand Schwabini (1:01:52): And you know he's gonna put in the work. Right. But, yeah, it's it's real interesting. And, you know, the talk is, who can you play with Sid now? If he can play well with these kids because he had, like, four assists in one game.

Grand Schwabini (1:02:02): You know? Mhmm. Because Celebrini can score. And clearly, Martone loves to shoot the puck. So it's interesting.

Grand Schwabini (1:02:08): That's about the only interesting thing about the IIHF. There's nobody else really really to talk about

Hockey Jesus (1:02:15): At the same time though, like, how do you feel about that? Like, I I sort of feel like, you know, if I'm a Penguins fan, I I don't really need Sidney Carlsby to be playing non penguins games.

Grand Schwabini (1:02:26): Well, the way I feel about that is that tells me he was actually healthy. You know, he got he got healthy in the series. You know? I was touting that he's hurt and he's not playing well. I think he was playing hurt, but it's for some reason, I think he he he worked through whatever whatever pain it was.

Grand Schwabini (1:02:41): And that's good. Mhmm. Because that means that's not a permanent injury and it's and it's not gonna affect him through next year. You know, the drama with Gino continues. You know, Dubis did have his press conference last Tuesday, and he basically talked out of both sides of his mouth.

Grand Schwabini (1:02:57): He said, we would love to have Gino back. And then he also said, essentially, well, I knew at some point I would have to break up the big three. So nobody knows what's gonna happen. Yeah. Supposedly, there was there was there put it this way.

Grand Schwabini (1:03:12): If he wanted to sign Gino, he could have already signed Gino. They got the space. Yeah. He's not really taking up any spot. You know, there's talk about, you know, him taking up spot on the power play, whatever.

Grand Schwabini (1:03:22): I'm not gonna get into those details at this point, but, there was talk that he wanted a two year contract, and he's backed off from that now. So they'll probably get the deal done, but, Dubis is actually over at the IHF. He's the GM for the Canadian team. So Mhmm. He's not gonna be making any, he's not gonna be signing any contracts till that's over.

Grand Schwabini (1:03:42): And I think that goes for another week or two depending on how far the Canadians go. My guess is they'll probably end up being in the in the finals or the final round, I think it is, because there was group a and group b, that sort of thing. Other than that, that's that's it for hockey. You got the Eastern and Western Conference finals coming up this week. If you're not watching, you're missing out on the best hockey in the world ever.

Hockey Jesus (1:04:08): Alright. And now I believe it's time for our favorite segment. Or some folks favorite segment.

Technical Director (1:04:15): First, want to thank Chris Jada for being here again. Do you guys think Howard will get cut? Go back and start at the beginning of the shows.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:22): Some of us do some of us don't.

Technical Director (1:04:25): Can listen on the, on the iHeartRadio app, apple podcast, Spotify, or anywhere you get your frigging podcasts. I'm going to drop it right after the show. Yes. I think I actually heard that Mark Madden rant too. I think I was at work and it was on my lunch hour and I was listening to him, but about what About Will Howard.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:44): Oh.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:44): Oh, yeah. He was basically saying this thing. He's a 100% convinced they're cutting him. He's like, it's a 100 chance they're cutting him. There's no chance he's making the team.

Technical Director (1:04:52): He's he's thinking the same thing I was, and that's why I brought it up. Not not because I know better than Mark Madden, but I agree with him a 100%.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:01): Mhmm.

Hockey Jesus (1:05:01): And I disagree with with all of you. Mhmm. And that's what makes me a Emmy winning sports writer.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:12): Manifest. Manifest. Manifest.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:15): Wanna be Emmy winning. I think you missed a couple words.

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Technical Director (1:05:38): I want these guys to see this. I boosted this post with $25 again. You watch the views go up, then you will see the proof, and it will be

Unknown Speaker (1:05:47): undeniable. Undeniable.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:49): And I think you know what else? I think it's worth it.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:52): You know what else is undeniable? What? When we pick shows.

Hockey Jesus (1:05:56): Yes. What we're watching. And I'll take it from here since you've been a little bit off tonight, TD.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:03): I I don't think I've been off at all. I think I've just brought the energy, which is what we want.

Hockey Jesus (1:06:08): I was thinking it was like a lacking of energy.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:11): I was thinking like a spin out here.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:13): Yeah. Kind of like a Kinda

Grand Schwabini (1:06:15): like Come on back in. Come on back in.

Hockey Jesus (1:06:18): Sort of like a car crash. You know? You can't stop watching it. Alright. But anyway, this is the part of the show where we give back to you, our audience, our loyal fandom.

Hockey Jesus (1:06:31): We realize just like you, when there's no more Penguins, you know, there's nothing going on with the Steelers except Aaron Rodgers, crappy news. We know that you gotta watch some other stuff. Right? Bucks are off tonight. So you gotta watch something else.

Hockey Jesus (1:06:47): And we're gonna help you find what to watch, and you don't have to sit there for hours going through trailers. You don't have to sit there, you know, asking, you know, your neighbor, Marge.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:58): No. You don't.

Hockey Jesus (1:06:59): You know, you can just ask the guys at Marge. Porch porch. We will tell you if something is a thumbs up, which means it's a lock, a thumbs down, meaning if you watch it, it's your fault, or a thumb up, thumb down, which kinda means like, you know, if you like a rom com, you might like it. If you don't, you won't. If you like science fiction, you might like it.

Hockey Jesus (1:07:25): You might not. And with that, we will start with HJ and the crash.

Grand Schwabini (1:07:38): The crash on Netflix. This is new. Okay. It was trending. It was number two yesterday, and, it's it's an hour and a half.

Grand Schwabini (1:07:45): So it's, I guess, considered a movie, but it's a documentary. Mhmm. It was about a crash that happened in Strongsville, Ohio back in July 2022. It's like Did you hear about this?

Hockey Jesus (1:07:57): Died. Amy said she watched it the other night.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:59): Mhmm. That was good. Lauren started watching it last night. Oh.

Grand Schwabini (1:08:03): Well, they're gonna love it because I'll tell you, it you know what's great about this? Well, it's not great that people die. Okay? Let's just let's just let's just say that.

Unknown Speaker (1:08:11): Entertaining thing about this podcast about this was

Grand Schwabini (1:08:14): It's tragic. The whole thing is absolutely tragic, actually. But what's what's really interesting about this documentary is the parents' reaction to what the kids were doing. These kids were clearly everybody. I mean, they're teenagers.

Grand Schwabini (1:08:29): Right? 17. Mhmm. I think the oldest was three years older, so he might have been 20 or 21. And yeah.

Grand Schwabini (1:08:38): Yeah. It was yeah. So 16, 19, and 17. So and the the girl who who killed the two boys in the car, she survived. And, like, they showed the they showed the they showed the police officer coming up to the scene, and it looked like the worst car accident you have ever seen.

Grand Schwabini (1:08:57): And you're like, how can a car crash into a building, first of all, because you just don't run into a building.

Technical Director (1:09:03): That happens every day in Pittsburgh, by the way. Oh.

Unknown Speaker (1:09:07): My Speaking well Speaking from experience.

Technical Director (1:09:09): Yes. I've I've crashed into more than my share of buildings.

Grand Schwabini (1:09:13): Well, this was this was this was very strange. But the great thing is is everybody has an app now, and it there are cameras everywhere. Right? So they were able to piece together what happened. And as it turns out, she was going at a very high rate of speed, like a 100 miles per hour.

Grand Schwabini (1:09:30): And

Unknown Speaker (1:09:31): Was she driving a Subaru?

Grand Schwabini (1:09:33): She was not. Okay. No. I think it was a Honda Civic. And Wow.

Grand Schwabini (1:09:38): Or maybe it was a Toyota Camry. Anyway, it was just a normal car. Mhmm. And she didn't brake. Like, she was going at a high rate of speed, didn't brake, and everybody's like, well, why would you be driving that fast?

Grand Schwabini (1:09:52): And, you know, of course, you have phones, so they're looking, and it seems like the the couple, the the one boy in the car, she was, you know, boyfriends with for, like, four years.

Unknown Speaker (1:10:01): Are we gonna get the whole documentary? I'm just gonna

Grand Schwabini (1:10:04): just gonna I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna get there in a second. Alright. And as it turns out, they had some problems with their relationship. And it turns out that it seemed like maybe she wanted to get out of the relationship, and the only way to do it would be crashing her car and killing And to make it look like an accident, but it wasn't an accident. But what's really interesting is Mackenzie Shrilla.

Grand Schwabini (1:10:26): She's the she's the girl who killed Dominic Russo. Mhmm.

Technical Director (1:10:31): After all this, this is what's really interesting?

Grand Schwabini (1:10:33): What's really interesting is the parents. Uh-huh. Dominic Russo's parents were a little conservative, and they're like, you shouldn't be hanging out with these these kids. They're not good for you. Mhmm.

Grand Schwabini (1:10:43): You shouldn't be doing that. And meanwhile, the parents of Natalie were like, yeah. She's allowed to smoke. It's okay. You know?

Grand Schwabini (1:10:51): I'd rather smoke than drink. And it's okay if she doesn't have a job. She's on social media, and and, you know, she's she's making money on social media. And just a difference in the way the parenting was was, like, very interesting to me. And even when the judge, you know, announced that she was, you know, going to be guilty of murder, her parents were like, no, we don't believe you.

Grand Schwabini (1:11:15): Like, they just were like, no, that didn't happen. And they're still trying to fight it even now to get a to get another trial because I'll tell you what, their their lawyer was absolutely awful. Okay. That he let in was just terrible. So So you gotta watch It's

Unknown Speaker (1:11:31): a two thumbs up. Two thumbs up. I I really do feel like I just watched it.

Unknown Speaker (1:11:35): Well, you can watch it again with Lauren, and then you'll you'll really enjoy it, and you'll you'll know what's gonna happen.

Technical Director (1:11:40): She started today at during nap time.

Hockey Jesus (1:11:43): Mm-mm. And remember, just like any good documentary, you already know what happened. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:11:49): Yeah. Just

Technical Director (1:11:49): read that. I was about to say, I do a documentary. I get roasted for it. He does one. You sit there silently and let him tell us the whole story.

Technical Director (1:11:58): So alright. Next up, because you guys are gonna have to suffer till the very end is the grand Schwabini. I I too pardon me. I too watch this. Mhmm.

Hockey Jesus (1:12:12): So I did I finally finished Vikings the original, all six seasons. Yeah. And now I have finished season one of Vikings Valhalla. Yeah. And what's really nice about it is you basically just continued watching Vikings.

Unknown Speaker (1:12:28): Yeah. That's true. That's

Unknown Speaker (1:12:29): true. It's really Yeah. It's really all it

Unknown Speaker (1:12:31): is. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:12:32): But they but they

Unknown Speaker (1:12:32): jump way ahead.

Hockey Jesus (1:12:33): They do jump way ahead. It's like a hundred and fifty years later or something like that. Yeah. And, you know, it's it's it's good. I think it's just as good as the regular Vikings seasons.

Hockey Jesus (1:12:44): Right. You know, it's it's I find it to be very interesting because it's you learn a lot about kind of like this difference between, you know, believing in, you know, certain gods like Odin, Freydis, and and things like that. It's kind of like a different almost like religion compared to Christianity. And it's it's really interesting too just kind of the, you know, how much hate there is between, you know, like the Vikings and and the Christians. Nice.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:17): You know, and

Unknown Speaker (1:13:18): Makes for good balance.

Hockey Jesus (1:13:19): You know, there's always somebody trying to create, you know, trying to orchestrate peace between the two of them. Then there's somebody who comes along and it's just like, no. Like, slaughter them all. Know?

Unknown Speaker (1:13:30): Fun. Yeah.

Hockey Jesus (1:13:30): Yeah. Which is and and it's it's really an interesting show too about, like, strategy of of battle, you know, because, you know, it's not like now where you can just, like, you know, put yourself fighters in the air and drop bombs. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:44): You know? That's really like That's a pussy way of fighting.

Unknown Speaker (1:13:47): I mean, this was Battle axes. Comp compared

Technical Director (1:13:50): to the way these guys fought. Right. I mean, we're like we're like, yeah. Does anybody have a joystick? You know?

Unknown Speaker (1:13:56): Right. Right. Those guys were like, I'm gonna slice his back open Right. About the spine and drink his blood.

Unknown Speaker (1:14:03): Right. Right. Right. So you get, you know, you got you got a lot of that.

Unknown Speaker (1:14:07): Then You haven't watched it? No. You gotta watch it.

Unknown Speaker (1:14:09): Yeah. And then it's all, you know, and it and it's all about, like, you know, the the ambition for power. Mhmm. Yeah. So it's it's great.

Hockey Jesus (1:14:16): I mean, I I I have to say, like, I I I would say, like, you know, if we were doing, like, a new top 10 shows of of all time, I'd say, you know, I I don't know that it gets in the top 10, but it's in the neighborhood. Yeah. And, and, you

Technical Director (1:14:29): know, let me say, this is a recommendation.

Unknown Speaker (1:14:33): Yes.

Technical Director (1:14:33): That I made to you. And it was transparency, a recommendation that our, my, my wife's friend, Natalie made to me. Now why she's into this kind of violence, I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (1:14:46): I will say

Unknown Speaker (1:14:47): But she loves

Hockey Jesus (1:14:47): it. I will say not to take away any of your joy, but you actually had nothing to do with why I watched Vikings. Okay. There there was a a girl who used to work for me, and she loved Vikings. Like, loved it.

Hockey Jesus (1:15:04): Loved it. Loved it. I always thought it was a little strange.

Unknown Speaker (1:15:06): But then I watched it, and I told you to. And you were like, that confirms it. No. Because I reviewed it. I reviewed it.

Unknown Speaker (1:15:14): Well, I don't But did you review it?

Hockey Jesus (1:15:15): I don't think it affected me at all, though.

Unknown Speaker (1:15:17): No. Not at all.

Unknown Speaker (1:15:19): I I remember I remember I was

Unknown Speaker (1:15:20): That makes sense. Remember I was

Hockey Jesus (1:15:21): just I remember I was just sitting there once, and I'm like, hey. I want one that's got a lot of seasons so I can watch it for a long time. And I'm like, yeah. At Jessica, she she loved that show. So I'm like, okay.

Unknown Speaker (1:15:33): I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:15:36): So maybe I blocked you out.

Unknown Speaker (1:15:37): Seasons is it anyways? Like, five?

Hockey Jesus (1:15:40): Well, it's Vikings is six, and then Vikings Valhalla is three. It's three. Is Vikings Valhalla still going on? Will there be a fourth?

Unknown Speaker (1:15:46): I don't think.

Unknown Speaker (1:15:47): Or it's over. Okay. Alright. Okay.

Technical Director (1:15:49): But I can watch it. Six seasons. Is it is really good, and, of course, it also checks the final but most important box for your TV to watch it. It has great

Unknown Speaker (1:16:01): SEX. You got

Unknown Speaker (1:16:02): it. Great sex in Vikings.

Unknown Speaker (1:16:04): Oh, yeah. Vikings. If they're men, then, you know,

Hockey Jesus (1:16:06): that's Yeah. And they're, you know, it's all blonde hair, blue eyed women. So that's for you too. Yeah. Oh, it's Arian.

Unknown Speaker (1:16:13): Arian braves. Arian.

Technical Director (1:16:16): So so I listen, man. Before we do mine, my all important real review.

Unknown Speaker (1:16:22): Oh, boy.

Technical Director (1:16:23): From last week, I just wanna say this. Chris Chada chimes in here and he says, windows bay is reverted back to the next episode is next week format. No binging. It reminded me the early two thousands. So first of all, yes, it has.

Technical Director (1:16:36): Second of all, I like that about apple. It kinda, it's kinda like, there's no way to binge it. However, you, what I do is I'll just wait till the season's over.

Unknown Speaker (1:16:44): Yeah.

Technical Director (1:16:44): Then I go back and binge it, but I like the option of being like, you're really into it. And I will say this, I'm going to break protocol for now. I'm not going to give a final review, but I, on, on Chris Chatter's recommendation, I started watching widows bang.

Grand Schwabini (1:16:59): I want to watch it too.

Technical Director (1:17:01): It is Matthew Rise. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah.

Technical Director (1:17:05): We all know that. It is interesting. You you have trouble deciding what, like, the genre is.

Grand Schwabini (1:17:14): Oh, it doesn't fit into a category.

Technical Director (1:17:16): Not genre. But you have a you suspect that it's going to be this particular genre. And I'm not gonna say anything about that. You expect that you're like, oh, this is gonna be this kind. And then over the course of the first three episodes, realize, because you get frustrated because they don't just dive right into

Unknown Speaker (1:17:39): I see. I love that.

Technical Director (1:17:41): The genre. Yeah. But then you realize like, oh my god. This isn't really the genre at all. This is this is the background for the genre.

Technical Director (1:17:51): Woah. And you start cracking up and I can't wait for episode four. There were a few moments during the first three episodes where I didn't consider not watching, but I was really What is going on? The acting is so good. Yeah.

Technical Director (1:18:05): But I was kinda like, I, what it, where is the story here or not? Are we gonna and then in the third episode, you're kinda like, oh my god. It's actually a laughing moment.

Hockey Jesus (1:18:16): I have never heard of such a genre mystery.

Unknown Speaker (1:18:21): Okay. Alright. So, I

Unknown Speaker (1:18:22): just wanted to say. It's a step up from a documentary.

Technical Director (1:18:24): Chris Chata, you nailed it. You nailed it. It's good. I would I I would expect that it's going to be pretty good. Who knows?

Hockey Jesus (1:18:34): Alright, guys. Alright. Let's go down the documentary road.

Unknown Speaker (1:18:38): We already did this one. I don't know why you're I

Unknown Speaker (1:18:40): did not. We we reviewed it last week.

Unknown Speaker (1:18:42): You

Unknown Speaker (1:18:42): did not review it last

Unknown Speaker (1:18:44): to last week and listen to our review. It's gonna be better than what you're about to hear.

Technical Director (1:18:48): You have not watched it. Okay? I I heard all the BS last week about, let's talk about the Hulk Hogan. First, he was this.

Unknown Speaker (1:18:58): He was a wrestler. And then he became a voice of a generation. And then

Unknown Speaker (1:19:02): he had a sex then he had a sex tape, and then and then he got a divorce, and then he lost all his money, and then he had to wrestle again. And then his his his son got in an accident, and then he remarried, and then he and then he found god, and then he died. You know?

Unknown Speaker (1:19:17): Cute of music. I mean, there

Unknown Speaker (1:19:18): you go. Nice review. Nice really good review.

Unknown Speaker (1:19:21): Spot on. Good review.

Technical Director (1:19:23): Look, Hulk Coke and real American. I'm not going to give you the, the, heart, the heart wrenching story. And, and, and I'm not going to say like, oh my God, it was amazing. What I am going to say is it's a nostalgic part of our life. And there was a story behind the Hulkster, the Hulkster, a guy named Terry Belea.

Technical Director (1:19:45): But not only was it that story, it was also, you know, the story of how these, these guys suffer so much. The guy had 11 back surgery.

Unknown Speaker (1:19:56): Oh boy.

Technical Director (1:19:57): And, and yes, it was fake. Yes, it was fake. But the only fake part about it was they would write the story and say, these are the characters. Yeah. They didn't always follow what makes Vince McMahon told them to do.

Technical Director (1:20:11): Yeah. Sometimes they would be like, uh-uh. I'm not I no way. My character. They would disagree with it, and they got hurt a lot.

Technical Director (1:20:18): They got hurt a lot.

Unknown Speaker (1:20:19): Sounds like it. Do you think that standing on the top

Unknown Speaker (1:20:23): of a

Hockey Jesus (1:20:23): rope and jumping and landing on your back could lead to back injuries?

Technical Director (1:20:30): What I'm saying is the athleticism was real.

Unknown Speaker (1:20:33): That's what I'm saying. Right.

Unknown Speaker (1:20:34): That's what I'm saying.

Unknown Speaker (1:20:34): Oh, sure.

Technical Director (1:20:35): Here's the deal. If if you were kinda when you were younger, you were mesmerized by the whole Hulk Hulk Hogan phase.

Unknown Speaker (1:20:43): Never never was. You were? Yeah. They got thirty years.

Unknown Speaker (1:20:46): I was.

Unknown Speaker (1:20:47): I'm never I'm never getting through this.

Unknown Speaker (1:20:48): Well, yeah. Most most everybody was.

Unknown Speaker (1:20:51): Well, they got

Unknown Speaker (1:20:52): macho man. They got me savage.

Unknown Speaker (1:20:54): Come on. You know? Yeah. Yeah. They were looking for, you know, people that were easy to persuade.

Technical Director (1:20:58): I had to I had to stretch Armstrong. I had to stretch Armstrong.

Grand Schwabini (1:21:03): Should've kept it. It's worth a lot of money now.

Unknown Speaker (1:21:05): Look, man, that nostalgic part of our, our, of our lives, you get to see this guy. And, I I I think it was

Unknown Speaker (1:21:12): no Jimmy super fly snooker.

Technical Director (1:21:14): It's good. Let me tell you something. I gave I I tested this out because I knew you guys would poo poo. Well, I knew you would.

Unknown Speaker (1:21:20): He was no tiger man.

Unknown Speaker (1:21:21): I I worked this out.

Unknown Speaker (1:21:23): The unknown wrestler.

Unknown Speaker (1:21:24): I talked to my buddies at work. I suggested a bunch of them watch it. Every single one of them was like, wow, it was really good. So really you're gonna want to watch it. I know you said last week, I will never watch.

Unknown Speaker (1:21:37): I watched Vikings before I watched that.

Unknown Speaker (1:21:38): Oh, there you go. See. There you go. That's Now we're talking.

Unknown Speaker (1:21:41): That's because of you, TD. Not because of Mark. How about that?

Unknown Speaker (1:21:48): Yeah. How how how about

Unknown Speaker (1:21:50): that? Every time.

Hockey Jesus (1:21:53): It was interesting how you really, really wanted that credit, even when it wasn't yours.

Unknown Speaker (1:21:59): Try. Good try.

Unknown Speaker (1:22:00): Maybe next week. There's always next week.

Technical Director (1:22:02): Come by next week and find out. Yeah. Well, okay. Hulk Hogan, Real American. If you have any feelings for that time in your life, I would absolutely I would abso freaking lutely.

Technical Director (1:22:15): Abso freaking lutely. Yes. I would abso freaking lutely watch it. Let me tell you right now. This is kinda the end of the show, but I wanna thank everybody who's been watching on X and everybody watching on YouTube for being here.

Technical Director (1:22:33): And Thank you. Let me tell you something. It's always a good time. You can catch us right after this show if you haven't or you wanna listen Thank you. Like my therapist does on Tuesday mornings.

Unknown Speaker (1:22:44): You can find us on Spotify, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast. Where where you get your podcast? Someday the pirate will come back.

Hockey Jesus (1:22:51): Maybe we will bring your therapist into one of our sessions.

Unknown Speaker (1:22:55): That would be glorious.

Technical Director (1:22:57): Yes. Hey. He has a lot to say. Let me it's all good.

Unknown Speaker (1:23:00): I bet he does.

Unknown Speaker (1:23:00): We can do the voice. We can do the voice thing.

Unknown Speaker (1:23:03): Yeah. We can the

Unknown Speaker (1:23:03): voice. Yeah.

Technical Director (1:23:05): Yeah. Awesome. That would be great, guys. Alright. Listen.

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Technical Director (1:23:20): I'm your TD. That's it. I am out. Jablonsk. Jablonsk.

Unknown Speaker (1:23:27): See you.

Unknown Speaker (1:23:30): There