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January 26, 2026

Steelers Hiring Mike McCarthy

Pittsburgh Steelers set to announced the new head coach and he is a tenured coach with local ties. Is that a good thing? Does anyone know? Listen to the Sports Porch guys discuss with their fans. Also Penguins secret to success and as always what we're watching this week to include the live climbing event on Netflix, The Diplomat Season 4 and the Rip.

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Pittsburgh Steelers set to announced the new head coach and he is a tenured coach with local ties. Is that a good thing? Does anyone know? Listen to the Sports Porch guys discuss with their fans.

Also Penguins secret to success and as always what we're watching this week to include the live climbing event on Netflix, The Diplomat Season 4 and the Rip.

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This is the Sports Porch Black
and Gold with your hosts, the

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technical director, the Grand
Schwabini and Hockey Jesus.

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Come on Pittsburgh, let's show a
little.

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Steelers, Penguins and Pirates
love The sports Porch.

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Black and Gold starts now.
That's right, the sports porch.

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Black and gold starts.
Now we are back and we have a

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new coach.
The white smoke was billowing

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out of Accra Shore and out of
the white smoke.

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The Pittsburgh Steelers have
announced that Mike McCarthy

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will be their new coach.
Just one of the few topics we'll

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be talking about on the porch
tonight.

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We got the Tomlin legacy.
Of course, we have to give

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Tomlin his due.
We have to basically tell you

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how it is that we think he has
left the franchise and we're

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kind of kind of kind of going to
go over, you know what we think

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the McCarthy hire is what what
it's going to bring for the

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Pittsburgh Steelers and of
course, we have hockey updates

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with yours truly.
The hockey Jesus Pittsburgh

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Penguins are flying right now
and just had a wonderful West

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Coast trip.
But hey, boys, what do you say?

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Let's start off with the Tomlin
legacy.

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You want to get right to it or
you want to tell us how it's

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down in Grand Cayman there, TD?
Well, first I want to tell you

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that I'm very proud of you,
Hockey Jesus, for producing this

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show from the wintery Blizzard
that is Pittsburgh.

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Amy's already taking credit for
correctly predicting the next

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head coach to the Pittsburgh
Steelers.

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Second, I want to say I'm the
TD.

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That's Hockey Jesus, That's the
Grand Schwabini.

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And if you're watching us and
you're watching us on YouTube,

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I mean, we're.
Nothing without that's.

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That simple.
That's right.

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Nothing without you.
Our fans.

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Yeah.
We love you.

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Yeah.
So of course we want to thank

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everybody for being here and let
you know that hey, this is real

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interesting if you think about
it, Hockey Jesus is now coming

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to you from the Greenfield
studios of the Sports Porch

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Hotline to the Steelers new
coach.

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I expect the BBQ with kielbasa,
pierogies, all kinds of stuff

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and a lot of inside information
there.

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Hockey Jesus, you think that's
something you can make make

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happen for us?
I'm sure we can get him to come

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over for some s'mores.
Yeah, and, and, and maybe some

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irons, but, but, but you know
what?

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I, I got a feeling that they're
not going to be very nice

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neighbors because hockey Jesus
was not happy about this hire at

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all.
But you know, Grant Schwabini,

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you know, I'm, I'm, I'm going to
defer to you.

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I'm going to let you guys talk
about this because I got I got

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nothing to say.
I knew this was going to happen

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all along.
Well, and everybody really wants

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to hear from the two of us.
Yes.

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So let's give them what they're
what they're asking for.

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So from the Grand Schwabini,
I'll leave it to the Yinzer to

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get emotional afterwards.
From the Grand Schwabini, I do

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not like the hire.
I think, look, now there's two

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parts to this one.
I don't like the hire because my

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vision for the Steelers was to
get a new, innovative young mind

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that was gonna take this
franchise forward.

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OK, you know?
And what did they do?

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They brought in a guy who's 62
who, look, some folks might say

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the game has passed him by.
I don't know that that's

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necessarily true or not, but
the, the reality is I, I feel

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like you basically just didn't
make much of A change.

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I mean, Mike McCarthy is kind of
like Mike Tomlin 2.0, right?

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I mean, look, they're probably
gonna win 9910 games and be in

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the same place they were last
year this coming season.

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I mean, that's probably what's
gonna happen.

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He's a good enough coach.
I mean, obviously, look, he's a

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good coach.
He won the Super Bowl.

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You, you know, but a long time
ago, just like Mike Tomlin, you

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know, he's had a lot of winning
seasons, you know, went 12 and

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12 and four like three years in
a row with the Cowboys.

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So, you know, he he can coach,
but you know, this was a win now

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move for the Steelers.
And I think the Steelers are

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just, they just don't, they
can't grasp where they're at

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because this is not a win now
situation.

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It's not a win now team.
You know, I listened to this the

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these people talking over over
the weekend and and they said,

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do you think this is a a win now
team?

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And the guy said, no, if you
don't have a quarterback, you're

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not a win now team.
And essentially, even if you

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bring Aaron Rodgers back, you
know, he's, he's a, he's a

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middle of the road quarterback
at this point of a career.

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So to me, I thought it would
have been much more exciting to

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bring in a young, fresh mind.
Very uninspiring.

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Hire Jesus.
Well, this is this is very tough

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for me because I absolutely was
very emotional, partially

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because I hated the fact that TD
was right.

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Let's just be honest about this.
I knew that all along.

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But I mean, here's here's here's
the thing I'm going to start

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with and then I'm going to get a
little bit more emotional after

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I say the logical thing.
It's a good thing that Tomlin is

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gone, OK?
And we can all agree that that

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Tomlin has had run his course,
that he was stale, he brought

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nothing new.
He didn't have any.

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He was never going to bring in
new hires.

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And he was always going to be
the same old coach.

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Really high, really high floor,
really low ceiling.

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So you always were in that.
We're going to win nine games.

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We're going to win 10 games.
And if we're unlucky, we'll win

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8.
If we're very lucky, we'll win

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11, OK.
I don't feel that the McCarthy

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hire has changed that level that
much more.

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I did go back and look at what
he has done, wherever he's been.

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He's only had five losing
seasons.

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So right away he's worse than
Tomlin.

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I joke and and but the reality
is I I just am happy that they

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hired somebody new.
The sad thing is the freaking

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Steelers have no patience and
will not wait and will not go

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out on a ledge anymore.
OK, this is where I get so

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crazed about the Pittsburgh
Steelers.

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All they care about are putting
seats, putting fans in the

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seats, making sure they're
relevant enough to maybe make

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the playoffs and then get
everybody the rally behind.

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Let's win a playoff game Now.
I don't have any freaking idea

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what Art Rooney was saying when
he said I expect the Steelers to

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be in the Super Bowl because I
don't know what film he's been

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watching.
But if he goes back and watches

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that film against the Houston
Texans and he brings back the

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same quarterback, I really hope
he's not expecting the same

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goddamn results or different
results, because he's going to

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get the same results.
I mean, this team is so far away

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from what New England has done
over the past six seasons.

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Now.
It has taken New England six

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seasons to get there.
And let's face facts, New

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England had a cakewalk this
year.

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The Steelers did beat them also,
but they had the easiest

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schedule.
They had to play CJ Shroud and

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a, a, a not, not, not a good
quarterback in Denver and Jared

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Stidwell Stidham.
So I don't fully expect the

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Patriots to have unless they've
got some kind of horseshoe up

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their ass to, to, to even come
close to beating the Seattle

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Seahawks.
But we'll save that for next

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week.
But the reality is it did take

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them six years, but it took them
six years and they're back to

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the Super Bowl.
We would have taken that six

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years after our last Super Bowl,
but now we're still retreading

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all these old quarterbacks and
now all these old coaches.

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I just wonder where the carousel
is going to end.

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Personally, I don't think it's a
terrible hire.

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I'm not going to go out and say
this was the dumbest hire they

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could have done because they
probably could have gone stupid,

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more stupid.
But I digress.

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I'm going to let I'm going to
let TD talk since he was the guy

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who wants Mike McCarthy here.
Let's hear what he has.

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Let's let's hear what he has to
say about about the new head

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coach of the Pittsburgh
Steelers.

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I I first of all, I want to
thank Kevin Colbert senior for

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I don't think.
So.

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I don't know.
I don't know.

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I just got an alert that Kevin
Colbert, senior subscribed, must

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be watching.
So whoever that is, he's.

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Probably laughing right now.
Hey Kevin, I, I, I hear there

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are some offensive and defensive
coordinator openings in

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Pittsburgh.
Listen, Kevin, Kevin, if that's

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really, if that's really you,
let us know and we're grateful

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no matter who you are the real
one or or, you know, like if you

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are the real one, are you not
the real one?

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Thanks, guys.
Semper Fi, San Diego Marine.

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That's Kevin Colbert, senior, by
the way.

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Mr. Tommy says 80% of total NFL
revenue comes from broadcast

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rights.
It's shared equally across all

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32 teams.
So incentive to perform better.

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He's responding to somebody
else.

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Look, I, I, it's not that I
wanted McCarthy.

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It, I, I never, I never wanted
McCarthy, to be honest with you.

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When, when, when Tomlin stepped
down and we were all kind of

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swimming in that soup because
that was some pretty thick soup.

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Nobody, nobody really expected
that.

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Although what's funny is you
just get a feeling when things

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have just run their course.
So right after, if you go back

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to our Texans post game show
after that playoff loss, we had

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a long discussion about, you
know, what we thought would

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happen, what should really
happen.

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Basically, you know, what I was
pushing that was that there's no

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way they can continue with
Tomlin now.

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No announcements have been made.
I wasn't even thinking about who

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the next coach was, but all I
could think about is how in the

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hell do you run this back after
that?

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Now, if they had lost that game
by say 3 points or overtime by

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by a field goal, you know, OK,
they lost, but it at least it

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was a better showing.
I don't know if that would have

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happened, but they got destroyed
by the Texans basically.

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And there was no question it had
to happen.

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And we saw that coming.
And as fans, you know, on our

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show, we're not paid by big
legacy media to be shills for

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for the organization or to be
positive, you know, in light of

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negative things or negative in
light of positive things or

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whatever.
It doesn't doesn't matter.

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But after that, it just started
it, it struck me that now we're

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going to start this head
coaching search and and the last

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head coaching search we were a
part of his fans happened 20

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years ago.
And, you know, what do we know

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about coaching searches in
Pittsburgh?

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I mean, the Grand Swalvini is is
an Eagles fan.

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They've had quite a few head
coaches.

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You know, you know, no
disrespect.

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They've they've won some Super
Bowls, OK.

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You know, other teams have gone
through lots of head coach.

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So for me, it was kind of like,
I don't even know where to begin

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thinking as a Steelers fan where
they should go.

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You know, you could talk about
age, you could talk about

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younger, you could talk about
modern offense, whatever feel

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the steel is in the house.
He's saying, cheers, fellas,

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what's up?
Feel the steel.

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Thanks for being back here.
Chris Schott is also here.

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He's saying, are are you shocked
he got the job?

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I'm not.
I'm sure HJ isn't either.

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And he's he's right there.
He's right there.

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San Diego Marine says I I go
ahead, Robert, go.

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Ahead.
Yeah, I've got a couple of words

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and I want, I want to ask you
guys if you feel it speaks to

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what happened by hiring Mike
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The hire was uninspiring.
True or false?

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Yeah, I would say, I would say
that's true.

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I I would say that's true.
Going going back to my my

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earlier comment where it, it
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It's just that if you think
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about all the all the buzzwords
that were used after the after

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the hiring by Rooney, you know,
he knows tradition, family

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connection, neighborhood.
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As soon as I started thinking
about that, his name popped into

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my head and I thought he's had a
year off, you know, then the

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conspiracy theorists, I mean,
you know, all of our fans who

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know, who know us well, they
know I'm a conspiracy theorist,

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but I thought they've been
planning this for two years.

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McCarthy stepped down.
He he got fired in Dallas,

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actually.
And and and now he's just been

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waiting for his dream job.
All right, so.

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I've got another one for you
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Go for it.
The hiring of Mike McCarthy was

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lazy.
No, I yes, yes, OK.

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Why they they only they only
interviewed two other guys.

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I mean, why not wait till the
Rams get out and you got two

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more guys to look at?
I mean, there's not a clamoring

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from Mike McCarthy.
He's going to get scooped out

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away from us because he's an OK
coach.

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But nobody, nobody was out there
saying if, if the Steelers don't

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hire him today, we're taking
him.

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They could have waited.
They could have hired more.

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I think it's just the epitome of
what the Steelers are now.

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They just want to move on to the
next, to the next phase as

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quickly as possible without
planning or putting anything

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together.
Lazy.

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I don't, I don't know that it's,
I don't know that I would

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characterize it as lazy.
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characterize it more, you know,
like what, what, what Craig is

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saying here.
Rooney is living in the spheres.

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It was a safe hire.
And I think they wanted, I

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actually think they wanted
McCarthy from the get go.

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Well.
Clearly they did.

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Clearly they did, yeah.
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Yeah.
And and I think what that was

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was not necessarily.
That's lazy.

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I don't.
Know he's dude, he's the only

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Pittsburgh Steeler local to hot
to to be interviewed.

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If that's what they wanted, they
should have just said our next

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coach will come from Pittsburgh,
period, end of sentence.

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And then then we wouldn't have
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Oh, maybe they'll do the right
thing.

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Maybe they'll interview.
Maybe they'll find the right

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guy.
It's just lazy is what it is.

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It's absolutely lazy.
Maybe, maybe, maybe he is in his

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fears and that's true too.
But it can be both things at the

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same time.
Lazy and fearful.

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And the last one I will give you
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The hiring of Mike McCarthy was
simply out of touch.

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No, I don't.
I don't agree with that one only

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because let's face it, they're
going to be a lot of Steelers

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fans who are going to be happy
that a hometown boy is going to

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get, he's going to get going to
get the coaching job.

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You know, I remember when Cower
was hired and you know, he was

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young at the time, so a little
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everybody was thrilled.
He was from Carnegie, you know

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everybody.
Was like.

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We got a guy.
Should that matter?

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It should not matter, but it
does with the rooneys.

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It does with a select subset of
Pittsburgh Steelers Nation.

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And I get it.
I get it.

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I, I, I in some ways I want to
root for the local guy too, you

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know.
But dude, go get Larry Foot and

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put him as a defensive
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You don't need, you don't.
You don't need to hire Mike

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McCarthy a retread as the head
coach.

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Now, I'm not going to be down on
Mike McCarthy because I don't.

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Know who said it?
But I don't, I don't, I don't

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know who said it, but I we do
have to see who he's going to

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hire as offensive and defensive
coordinators, OK.

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I think that was our, that was
our San Diego Marine.

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That makes that makes a big that
could make a big difference for

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me personally because if he's
willing to hire people and he

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and he has hired people in the
past who have gone on to become

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head coaches much more than Mike
Tomlin has.

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He's got a tree.
Yeah, so I, I'm, I, I would be

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OK with that.
The other thing that I, the

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other thing I do like about this
is the fact that he is 62.

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That means he won't be around
for 20 years.

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That is true.
That is true.

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He's probably a five year thing.
It's five year deal.

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He's.
He's going to be here for five

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years for sure.
And let's face it, if if he gets

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us to a Super Bowl in five
years, maybe we'll give another

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five year contract.
Everybody would be OK with that,

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myself included.
OK, so I, I'm, I don't like what

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they've done.
I understand what they've done.

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And I do believe it's fearful.
But I get where they are going,

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which is let's just keep running
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They clearly were happy with
what Tomlin did, being in the

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mushy middle all the time.
And somebody said something

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about the the Kansas City Chiefs
here.

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It was an earlier comment by
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He said something about that.
I guess the Chiefs are done

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then, based on your logic.
I wasn't.

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I'm not sure exactly what you're
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the Chiefs have Patty Mahomes.
The problem with the Pittsburgh

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Steelers are, and the reason I
don't like the Mike McCarthy

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thing is because now you're
automatically thinking they're

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going to have Aaron Rodgers back
and I don't like that at all.

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Now that being said, he has
quote UN quote developed

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quarterbacks in, in the past, I
can't name them.

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I, I don't think of him as a, as
a, as a quarterback whisperer,

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but supposedly he does like the
guy from Ohio State that we got.

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So maybe he's going to give him
a chance.

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I don't know how true that is.
I don't, I don't know.

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I don't know.
But I'm just saying that, you

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know, when Coach Tomlin was
here, he never gave his rookies

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a chance.
And he, Caleb Johnson didn't get

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a chance last year.
And I'm, I'm not saying that we,

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we should have give Will Howard
a chance last year.

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But the reality is, oh, I see,
Jeff.

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So Reed is 67.
Yeah, but.

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Reid's been in the quite a few
Super Bowls lately and he's not

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a retread.
He's been in Kansas City for

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quite a while now.
He's going to retire in Kansas

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City also.
Don't think for a second that

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Kansas City isn't looking for a
replacement for Reid right now,

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though.
Just to kind of do that, just to

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kind of finish up when, when I
said out of touch, I wasn't

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really talking about, you know,
the fan base and liking the

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local yokels.
I was really more talking about

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out of touch in that they think
the team's better than it is.

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Yeah, right.
That that's that.

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I agree with you there that they
think, no, I think, I don't

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think they think the team is
better than it is.

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I think they're happy being
right in that position of, well,

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we could win the division or we
can make the playoffs, but we're

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not going to be a loser.
You know, I think they like, I

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think they like that position.
See I.

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I and I'm not, so I'm not so
sure that they're wrong that 51%

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of Steeler Nations fields that
way too.

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It's just that there's 49% of us
who would rather see us go, you

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know, have one losing season,
rebuild and get back to the

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Super Bowl instead of being in
this middle.

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Right, like the Patriots who
went 4 and 13 to get Drake May.

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They had to go through three
quarterbacks to get them don't

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they didn't hit the lottery
right away.

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You know, they did New England
and they had a pretty shitty

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coach for a couple while couple
years there too.

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So I mean, they did have to go
through some iterations.

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And that's what I think the
Steelers are afraid to do.

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And that's where that's where I
think they live in their fears

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and and they don't want to do
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They're afraid to make the wrong
choices because they know they

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won't say we made a mistake, we
got to fire this guy or we made

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a mistake, we got to cut our
number one quarterback.

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You know they won't do that.
First of all, they don't play

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their number one quarterback.
Second of all, they they never

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cut coaches.
So we can never be like the New

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England Patriots, whether you
like it or not.

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OK, so let's let's talk about
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There's a lot to break down here
and obviously hockey Jesus was

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very upset and as he admitted
pre show, he was more upset than

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I was right then, you know, then
they actually hired Mike

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McCarthy.
But that's OK HJ sometimes, you

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know, I can be right.
But I, I guess what I'm what I'm

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what I'm looking at here is this
for a long time in the NFL,

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nobody wanted to hire coaches
that were in their 30s.

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They didn't think they had
enough experience.

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You know, you know, Noel, when
he was hired, he was what, 39 or

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34?
I don't remember, doesn't

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matter.
He was in his middle 30s, yes.

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He was in his 30s, right?
And Tomlin, same thing.

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That was big news.
Now it's all the rage.

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And this is interesting what
Jeff says here and this is where

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I'm gone.
We all wanted an offensive

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minded coach.
Who else out there is worthy?

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The one guy from the Rams
McCarthy has experience.

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I like the hire that that's good
because that's exactly where I'm

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going.
I I don't see, you know, when

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the grand Schwabini brings up
words like lazy what, you know,

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all the word, whatever the words
are, I don't remember.

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I I don't necessarily look at it
that way.

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I look at the Steelers saying
what do we need that we haven't

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had in a while?
And that's an offensive minded

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coach.
Where can we go that where where

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we have experience, we can we
can bring in an offensive minded

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head coach that that we don't
feel is a risky, you know, brand

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new guy who knows if she'll
house or as Amy likes to say,

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Sneed Haas or whatever it is,
Who knows?

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You know, who knows what what
what happens when you when you

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elevate these guys when they're
just new, they're new offensive

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coordinators.
You know, they've never been a

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head coach in the NFL And now
you put them at the helm of a

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storied franchise and a
franchise that while we all like

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to think of it as in turmoil
because we can't get past the

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playoff victory, it's a
franchise that has a winning

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record.
And McCarthy has a winning

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record, a pretty good record.
And if you're interested in his

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career, I dialed up a blog post
at the Porches live.com on the

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career of Mike McCarthy.
It's very interesting, his

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starts.
I mean, he basically is.

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He's been a football guy his own
life, his whole life obviously,

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But he has worked with
quarterbacks like Brett Favre,

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Alex Smith as a rookie, Aaron
Rodgers.

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Didn't he draft Jordan Love as
well?

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Did he draft Jordan Love before
they fired him?

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No he didn't.
Okay.

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Dak Prescott Mccarthys offense
is in Dallas.

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We're in the top ten in the
league 4 out of the five years

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he was there.
The 1st.

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Actually.
Well, I said top ten.

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I mean, so that would include
top five.

433
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,680
So you know one his first year
there they were in a negative

434
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,680
point differential and we talk
about that a lot, but then it

435
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,960
instantly went into the top five
important point differentials.

436
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,440
We won offense here.
We want offense.

437
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,680
I, I don't think the question
here is will Mike McCarthy be

438
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:47,640
able to fill the head coaching
vacancy in Pittsburgh in a

439
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,160
positive way?
I, I, I think he can.

440
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,840
I think the bigger question is
what is the difference going to

441
00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:00,240
be between the Mike McCarthy
regime and how they approached

442
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:05,080
the signing of their offensive
coordinator and their defensive

443
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,600
coordinator, and how does he
allow them to run things?

444
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,800
Whereas we know that Mike Tomlin
for years pretty much controlled

445
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,520
everything no matter what.
And I think that alone right

446
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,720
there is enough to be very
positive because if he hires the

447
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,800
right defensive coordinator,
he's going to let that guy run

448
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,960
the defense.
And if he hires the right

449
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,880
offensive coordinator, Kellen
Moore, for the Cowboys, OK, he's

450
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,320
going to let that guy run the
offense with his oversight.

451
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,760
I think McCarthy is a much
better head coach than Tomlin

452
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,360
from the standpoint of running
the organization in a

453
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,360
collaborative way, not in a
collective way, in a

454
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:53,800
collaborative way.
And for that reason, I'm

455
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,240
optimistic that this is a it's a
move in the right direction.

456
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,000
It's a safe hire.
It's a state fire.

457
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,640
Sounds to me like you're talking
yourself into it.

458
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:06,560
Not at all.
Not at all.

459
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,480
Maybe I am.
Maybe you are.

460
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,400
Yeah.
I mean, the offense, the any NFL

461
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,920
offense runs around the
quarterback.

462
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,440
And right now we don't have a
quarterback, OK.

463
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,240
And I I get I get you.
I I hear what you're saying

464
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,880
about him being a guy who's
going to hire coaches who are

465
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,640
going to coach.
OK, first of all, I hope the

466
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,720
Rooneys open up the, the, the
the coffers a little bit so that

467
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,160
we can hire more coaches so that
we can we can get more, we can

468
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,640
get more input.
See one of the reasons New

469
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,720
England was so successful for
years.

470
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,480
They were cheap and they only
had Belichick and he only needed

471
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,000
to be the coach.
Then they recognized, wow, you

472
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,680
need to have like three
different assistant defensive

473
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,240
coordinators.
You need to have somebody who's

474
00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:00,040
managing the running backs and
the quarterbacks, and you need

475
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,360
to have two or three coaches
doing the defensive backfield,

476
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,480
right?
That's what the Steelers don't

477
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,520
do.
I'm hoping that McCarthy is able

478
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,960
to talk them into him being able
to hire more than just offensive

479
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,600
and defensive coordinators, and
they can have a staff underneath

480
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,960
them that can bring this.
It's not that we don't have an

481
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,760
offense.
We just don't have a 20 1st

482
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,000
century offense and that's what
I think we need to do.

483
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,320
But in order to do that, you're
going to have to make a decision

484
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,600
about the quarterback position
before free agency starts.

485
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,720
Because you know, free agency is
like March 7th or 9th or some

486
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,400
shit like that.
You got to have Aaron Rodgers

487
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,160
signed before then if he wants
to be part of this, OK.

488
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,120
And if he isn't, then you either
got to go out and get somebody

489
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,320
or you're going to use some of
your 12 draft picks this year to

490
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,080
move up and get somebody who can
compete with Will Howard for the

491
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,400
for the quarterback position of
the future.

492
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,960
Now that's exciting, but it's
also damn scary because you

493
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,000
don't know what you're going to
be getting when it comes to

494
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,760
that.
So I think of a lot of things

495
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,520
are up in the air now that, you
know, coach a coach that, you

496
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,880
know, wants to make some
decisions, but we just don't

497
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,400
know how much authority he's
going to be able to have in

498
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,840
making those decisions.
So I don't know.

499
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,560
I'm, I'm going to be remained
optimistic about this, but I'm

500
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,520
going to see where it goes after
he gets hired and who he hires,

501
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280
you know, after all the Super
Bowl stuff's over and when the

502
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,440
free agency hits, I think that's
all we can really do at this

503
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,080
point.
It's really interesting that

504
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,120
people bring this stuff up.
Facilities, dealers, freak back

505
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,480
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506
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516
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517
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518
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The Steelers can't compete with
the top tier teams without a

519
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,640
serious upgrade.
Now here's a question for you.

520
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,240
OK and and and I did hear this I
think before I left to come down

521
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,680
here to Sonny Grand Cayman to
enjoy the snowstorm from afar.

522
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,800
I, I, I did hear some things
about this.

523
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:39,560
And apparently this was also a
part of Tomlin not wanting more

524
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:45,080
coaches, not wanting analytics,
not wanting AI, you know what I

525
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,040
mean?
So I, I, I have AI, have a

526
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,280
pretty distinct feeling that,
that, you know, yes, Mike

527
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,880
McCarthy's a hometown guy, but I
don't think he went into those

528
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,200
meetings and I don't think he
came home to go to those

529
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,000
meetings and, and groveled to
get the Steelers shot.

530
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,160
You know what I mean?
He's, he's a head coach.

531
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,080
He's a Super Bowl winning head
coach with a pretty damn good

532
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,400
track record.
I mean, let's just face facts.

533
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,840
He is a damn good track record.
He's.

534
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,960
A.
Grobbler I, I, I saw him after

535
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,640
he was hired by the Dallas
Cowboys and he had them.

536
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,160
He had the guy, not Jerry Jones,
but the other one.

537
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,280
That's, that's like the next in
line.

538
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,760
He was cracking up because he
was like, he's like, hey, you

539
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,080
know, I, I told him I watched
every single play from 2019.

540
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,680
He's like, did I do that?
He's like, no, I had to get the

541
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,360
job.
Yeah, I don't know if that's a

542
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,920
groveler.
I, I mean a grovelers more like

543
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,200
please, I want this job.
I I, I love this team.

544
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,960
No, I I think McCarthy probably
said OK.

545
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,280
You know, I, I, this is, you
know, I can't put words into the

546
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,520
guy's mouth and I've never met
him, but I, I, I have this

547
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,480
feeling that he, he, he would
have had to say, I'm going to

548
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,080
have to have some liberties
because, you know, it's not just

549
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,400
him.
He's doing this through his age.

550
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,600
There's a contract negotiation
coming on here.

551
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,880
And when he looks at it, you can
be damn sure that he looked at

552
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,400
the Dallas Cowboys staff that he
had and the, and the Green Bay

553
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,320
Packers staff that he had.
And he looked at the Steelers

554
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,880
current configuration.
And there's no way in my mind

555
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,040
that he went into the these
meetings and these negotiations,

556
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,800
which are probably currently
ongoing.

557
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,800
I mean, the deal may be sealed
from the standpoint if they

558
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,520
offered in the job, but we don't
know what's going on behind the

559
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,440
scenes.
I feel like he's definitely

560
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,400
saying to them we have to make
some additions here to bring

561
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,960
ourselves a little bit more in
into today's NFL.

562
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,880
We need additional coaching
staff, training staff for this.

563
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,000
We need an analytics department
for that.

564
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,760
I think that stuff is going to
come.

565
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,840
And, and I know everybody thinks
the Rooney's are cheap, but

566
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,440
look, they spend most years they
spend almost for on salaries to

567
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,720
the salary cap and.
Yeah, but that's that's that's

568
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,040
that's in the players.
There are other ways you can

569
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,480
spend money that they are cheap.
They definitely don't have

570
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,040
nearly the coaching staff the
other NFL teams have and their

571
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,880
and their and their facilities
are shared with the university.

572
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,960
Come on, dude, let's let's let's
save for what it is.

573
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,040
They're cheap when it comes down
to the ancillary things that are

574
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,760
happening off the field on the
field.

575
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,800
You're absolutely right.
They spend the cap every year.

576
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,600
That is true 100%.
But spending to the cap on the

577
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,640
field and giving it to Jalen
Ramsey, who isn't very good and

578
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,320
and you know, and you know,
they, they're OK with the

579
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,040
quarterback position right now.
But they can, they can, they can

580
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,440
spend more money on the
tangential things where there's

581
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,200
an absolute no limit to what
they can spend.

582
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,400
They can do better.
They can do.

583
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,680
That Yeah.
And here you go, Craig.

584
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,000
If you haven't already
subscribed on YouTube, please

585
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,280
do.
We'd really appreciate that.

586
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,080
Coaching staff is cheap and bad.
Absolutely.

587
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,600
I agree.
If you're Mike McCarthy, you're

588
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,040
not walking into that room, I'm
sorry and accepting the

589
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,600
structure that they have set up.
You're you're not saying I need

590
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,440
to hire AB and C and they say we
have room for A.

591
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,120
No, I, I, I just don't see that
happening.

592
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,440
Thanks Craig.
I appreciate it man.

593
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,960
We all appreciate it here.
Pat off track.

594
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,199
I love the always got to get a
pat off track in here.

595
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,320
There was a there was a there
was a McCarthy family 2 doors

596
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,320
down from US1 kid nearly blew
his hand off with a pipe bump.

597
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,120
Thanks Pat off track.
I'm sure that was in Buffalo,

598
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,440
NY, but.
We're all now Dumber for hearing

599
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,600
that.
Yeah, I think that's Pat's goal.

600
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,080
I, I, I, I think that's Pat's
goal And, and Mike McCarthy just

601
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,880
wanted a McDonald's added to the
cafeteria or, or it was a deal

602
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,120
breaker.
I, I, I, I mean, I don't know,

603
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,360
he's not, he's not Donald Trump,
you know, but you know, I, I, I

604
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,480
think probably what he wants is
his family's bar to be able to

605
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,920
provide all, the, all the food
he's.

606
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,360
Talking about the weight issue
with McCarthy.

607
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,840
I know, I know.
Here, here's a good question

608
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,560
from Fish How on earth did Artie
Smith land the Ohio State

609
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,440
offensive coordinator job Mark?
Who cares?

610
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,120
Could you take this one, Mark?
Oh, this is this is very simple.

611
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,920
Ohio State is a professional
football team playing against

612
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,640
college kids.
Artie Smith is going to look

613
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,560
like the greatest offense of
mind you've ever seen in your

614
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,880
life, and he'll win a national
championship with them.

615
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,080
Watch.
You'll be amazed because his

616
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,360
guys like he's got the
quarterback who you know, was in

617
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,160
second for the Heisman, and he's
got a couple wide receivers that

618
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,320
are like when they go to the NFL
are going to be top 10 picks.

619
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,960
I remember another guy who was
not very successful in the pros,

620
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,520
Chip Kelly went to Ohio State to
be a offensive coordinator and

621
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,280
won a national championship
there.

622
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,040
So.
Yeah, you can.

623
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,360
Pretty much take just about
anybody at Ohio State and

624
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,840
they're going to be pretty.
Damn good.

625
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,160
So he's gonna be the one who's
laughing less.

626
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,520
Trust me on that.
You know what's interesting

627
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,480
about Arthur Smith?
The guy's a freaking billionaire

628
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,360
and he still wants to coach you
in the NFL.

629
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,120
I know.
Hey, right.

630
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,880
Hey.
I I don't know, I've never I

631
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,840
never understood that about him,
but you know, kudos to him for

632
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,640
for keeping at it.
Keep on keeping on, Artie it.

633
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,720
It, it's because if he loses his
job, it doesn't matter.

634
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,040
He has no pressure.
He can just do what he can just,

635
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,440
you know, he, he, he can just do
whatever he wants and have fun

636
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,360
at it.
And sometimes the, the people

637
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,760
that are best at their jobs are
the ones that have fun now.

638
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,320
Now, he wasn't very good in
this.

639
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,960
In this case, it's not true.
Let's just let's just save for

640
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,120
what it is.
Yeah, Well, I, I, I think there,

641
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,440
I think there's a lot of moving
pieces to this.

642
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:02,200
And obviously I put a poll out
on Twitter and it's lastly for

643
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,160
another day or so.
If you go to our, if you're on

644
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,080
our X feed, I'm sorry, sorry.
Grant Schwabe always reminds me

645
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,120
it's X.
If you're watching us on X, hit

646
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,960
the follow button.
But there's a Twitter I pinged

647
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,200
at the top of the page.
Was McCarthy the obvious

648
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,120
question?
McCarthy good, hired bad,

649
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,200
overwhelming response is bad,
overwhelming.

650
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,880
And I'm telling you that that is
going to be the reason he

651
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,880
succeeds here, because nobody is
expecting anything.

652
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,440
I think he's going to.
Succeed.

653
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,280
You're just blowing some BS,
man.

654
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,920
Like you just, you just like to
say the exact opposite of what

655
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,000
everybody is saying just because
you like to do that.

656
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,840
I know it's I do like to do.
That I think he's going to be

657
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,000
successful because everybody
says he's not going to be, yeah.

658
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,120
I mean what?
The hell is what the hell is

659
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,320
that I?
Also possible is that I.

660
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,720
Also, I also thought he was
going to be the head coach

661
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:55,400
because nobody thought he was
going to be.

662
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,480
Well, I'll tell you what, you
were right about that.

663
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,120
Why?
Because you're a simpleton.

664
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,120
And the pitch.
Well, the Steelers.

665
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,560
Are simpletons.
Oh man, I never realized how

666
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,400
close you and your you and my
wife are in your opinion of me.

667
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,760
Can anybody answer Craig's
question?

668
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Does anybody know if White L got
the Falcons GM job?

669
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,760
I know he was interviewing.
I don't.

670
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,320
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't, I didn't see, I didn't

671
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,240
see anything published about
that, Craig.

672
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:29,400
I think they haven't made a
decision yet.

673
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,000
I think that's what's going on
there.

674
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,640
Do you, I don't know how how
long you want to go with this,

675
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:40,280
but I I've got the the list of
potential OCS and DCS.

676
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,480
Let's do it.
Let's just do it real quick.

677
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,920
Let's not go too in depth about
it, but let's.

678
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,800
Real quick.
So former Mike McCarthy,

679
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,280
assistants and potential
Steelers defensive coordinator

680
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:58,440
hires former Cleveland Browns
head coach Mike Pateen, former

681
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,800
Washington Commanders defensive
coordinator Joe Witt, junior Las

682
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,480
Vegas Raiders defensive
coordinator Patrick Graham,

683
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,880
Chicago Bears defensive pass
game coordinator Al Harris.

684
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,320
I I, I think that one's there
might be something there.

685
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,400
I like Harris.
Washington Commanders defensive

686
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,920
pass game coordinator Jason
Simmons.

687
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,560
Now these are the guys for
offensive coordinator.

688
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,640
New Orleans Saints quarterbacks
coach Scott Tolzine used to play

689
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,800
quarterback for for the for the
Packers.

690
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,600
Yeah, third string guy.
Yeah, former Chicago Bears Las

691
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Vegas Raiders offensive
coordinator Luke Getzi.

692
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,680
Formerly from Pittsburgh
University.

693
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,880
OK, former Cleveland Browns New
England Patriots offensive

694
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,440
coordinator Alex Van Pelt.
Also from the University of

695
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,120
Pittsburgh former.
Green Bay, former Green Bay

696
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,600
Packers offensive coordinator
Edgar Bennett, former New York

697
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:09,040
Giants head coach Ben McAdoo.
There you go.

698
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,240
So how excited are you going to
be if any of those guys are

699
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:15,080
hired?
Just.

700
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,240
Wondering, I don't know.
I, I mean, she'll see.

701
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,160
She'll see.
Still out there, Sheila Haas.

702
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,200
He's he's, he's either getting a
head coaching job or he's going

703
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,400
back to the Rams.
Yeah, you think so?

704
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,040
Yeah, he's he's, he's.
Yeah, I guess he wouldn't come

705
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,560
to Pittsburgh.
You're right about that.

706
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,760
He was in Cleveland today.
He's at.

707
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,760
He's at the Buffalo Bills
tomorrow.

708
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,280
I bet you that's where he goes.
Buffalo Bills.

709
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,360
Yeah, I bet you're right.
I bet he goes to Buffalo.

710
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,640
Why not?
I mean, it's it's hard to say,

711
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,400
Mark, because we don't really
know anything about these guys.

712
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,120
I would be surprised if it
wouldn't be somebody that Mike

713
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,480
McCarthy hasn't played, you
know, hasn't worked with in the

714
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,280
past.
Let's just put it that way.

715
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,400
I don't think he's going to go
out of his way to hire a

716
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,160
university, University of
Pittsburgh graduate just

717
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,280
because, you know, he's from,
you know, Western Pennsylvania.

718
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,200
But I don't, I don't think
anybody, I think none of us here

719
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,080
can say what's it going to be
like.

720
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,200
Let's listen to what what what
McCarthy says when he hires

721
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,800
these guys.
Yeah, well, if he if.

722
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,880
I think if he says, look, I've
worked with him, I know his

723
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,920
work.
It's hard to argue with that.

724
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,440
But you would like to get
somebody who he said.

725
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,520
I interviewed this guy.
I really like his innovation for

726
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,320
the for the future of, you know,
whether it's the offense or the

727
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,080
defense, I would rather hear
those words than say he's

728
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,800
familiar to me.
That sounds like a stealer hire

729
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,000
to me.
Well, I do, I do think a couple

730
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,040
things here.
I know Al Harris has actually

731
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,640
been highly talked about by
several teams as a as an up and

732
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,760
coming defensive coordinator.
So I would think that that would

733
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,040
be an exciting hire if if they
did tap Al Harris.

734
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,560
The other thing that I think is
important, I guess we're going

735
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,760
to have to probably wait till
the press conference or maybe

736
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,880
even later after they make the
decision.

737
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,040
But this might be a scenario
where the offensive coordinator

738
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,720
doesn't matter as much, because
if Mike McCarthy's calling

739
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,360
plays, then he's really the
offensive coordinator.

740
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:23,080
In let's see, Fish says that
Scott Tolzien was a University

741
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,280
of Wisconsin Badger.
That's true Right now, currently

742
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,720
he's in New Orleans, where he
basically worked with rookie

743
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,880
Tyler Show this week.
And he looked or this year and

744
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,440
he, he looked pretty good.
So I, I, I'd be OK with Tolzien.

745
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,240
I think that's that's not a,
that's not a terrible way to go

746
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,720
so.
And maybe he doesn't even call

747
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:45,840
the plays.
He's just sort of like the OC,

748
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,840
kind of like game planner.
Here's here's this is an

749
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,560
interesting thing here.
Alex Van Pelt long career as an

750
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,920
NFLNFL assistant.
We know that was QB coach for

751
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,760
the Packers.
You know, these are the things

752
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,640
that do drive me crazy.
Well, Alex.

753
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,400
Alex I.
I could see.

754
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,600
Go ahead, buddy.
Alex Van Pelt right now is with

755
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,000
the Rams.
So I mean.

756
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,840
I know I could see, I could see
him back here.

757
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,480
Not a terrible hire, you know.
Right, he's a.

758
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,880
Senior offensive assistant for
the Rams.

759
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,240
Well, right now the Rams are
out, but.

760
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,680
Overrated Sean McVay.
Yeah, I mean, maybe, maybe I'd

761
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,440
be OK with that.
I think, listen, I think there

762
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,240
are some good places we can go
here.

763
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,160
All of them, I think, will be
much more fun to watch than

764
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,960
Arthur Smith's offense.
Here you go.

765
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,120
This is interesting.
Chris, Chad, you guys think

766
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,040
Phillip Rivers can make a good
head coach right now?

767
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,640
He just he just according to Pat
off track pulled out for

768
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,840
consideration of the pills.
It's just saying he knows

769
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,280
players often.
I don't think he has any

770
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,320
interest in being a head coach,
to be honest with you, but.

771
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,320
I think.
He why why asked would he put

772
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,000
his name out an interview for it
of.

773
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,000
Course, Well, he, he, he, but he
he pulled his name out from

774
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,800
Buffalo.
Because he knew he wasn't going

775
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,440
to get the job, buddy.
Everybody who pulls out didn't

776
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,360
get the job.
That's true.

777
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,760
OK, so I, I guess, I guess where
I'm going with this is maybe why

778
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,800
any, any head coaching hire here
to to include McCarthy,

779
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,440
especially for the Steelers.
Look at the Pirates.

780
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,400
They, they, they hold on.
We're not transitioning to the

781
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,960
pirates because we'll have a
pirate show coming up soon.

782
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,000
Pitches and catches are
reporting this year has a little

783
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:41,680
bit of excitement around it.
But but Don Kelly, he he's from

784
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:46,200
north of Pittsburgh.
I mean, this town boys is a nepo

785
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:47,960
town.
And for those of you who are a

786
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,520
little older like us, I, I
learned that from my younger Co

787
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,480
workers at the TJS and I learned
that from my kids.

788
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,880
Nepotism.
This town is a Nepho town.

789
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,040
It's a Central Catholic Nepho
town.

790
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,920
And I'm sorry if I'm offending
people by saying that, but

791
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:10,000
that's the way it works.
So 100 percent, 100%, Tell me

792
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,600
where.
Tell me where Dan Muse lived in

793
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,680
western Pennsylvania.
I did not.

794
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,800
Did I say anything about the
Penguins?

795
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:18,600
You.
Said this town.

796
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,120
You, you, you put all the sports
in the one umbrella and you lump

797
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,880
the Penguins in with the
Steelers and the Pirates.

798
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,720
I will kill you every time you
do that.

799
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,720
Like I said, this town is in
that hotel.

800
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:38,960
And if you are surprised because
Mike McCarthy, who was born and

801
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,120
raised in Greenfield a block and
a half away from hockey Jesus,

802
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,520
he is the head coach and he
hires people that have some sort

803
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,040
of not just Pittsburgh
connection.

804
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,440
They didn't just have a cup of
coffee here as a coach and move

805
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,520
on.
They are a little deeper played

806
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,480
for Pitt this and that.
OK.

807
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,280
He was a walk on volunteer coach
at Pitt and and and moved up the

808
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,920
ranks there And and again, go to
theporcheslive.com.

809
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,600
There's a blog outlines all his
entire career.

810
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,000
If you're curious, because I was
curious and I I only, I only I

811
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,720
knew a few things about the guy
with Indeed from Pistol.

812
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:13,800
What's what's very interesting
is his career is almost like a

813
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:19,560
mirror image of Mike Tomlin's.
I, I, I I don't see that at all.

814
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,360
Yeah, I.
Don't see well as an NFL coach

815
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,600
as an NFL.
Coach, I'll give you that, yeah.

816
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:31,680
Won won Super Bowl really early.
Just like Tomlin didn't get the

817
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:38,000
best out of, you know, Antonio
Brown and Le'veon Bell, he also

818
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,920
did not get the best out of
Aaron Rodgers.

819
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:46,280
I mean, four time MVP under his
watch, one Super Bowl.

820
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,160
Pretty bad if you ask.
How is that?

821
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,560
How is that not getting the best
out of Aaron Rodgers?

822
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,160
It takes a team to win a Super
Bowl, buddy, not just a

823
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,640
quarterback.
You have to have a.

824
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,120
Great time, MVP.
And.

825
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:03,080
He lost in the first round every
time it's called the coach

826
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,720
wasn't prepared.
Number one indeed. 13, 13, and

827
00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:10,480
3.
By the way, you know what fish?

828
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,520
You're right.
I was not saying that McCarthy

829
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,880
went to Central Catholic.
I, I I I know that.

830
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,400
And I'm sorry if going to
Central Catholic didn't help

831
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,320
you.
I knew I would stir the pot

832
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,880
there.
I knew I would stir the pot.

833
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,520
No, I know.
I know that McCarthy went to

834
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,560
Bishop Boyle.
It's in.

835
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,520
It's in.
The And then late and then later

836
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,840
in his career.
Can't win a playoff game.

837
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,840
What'd he win?
One of his last seven?

838
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,600
Mike McCarthy.
I I.

839
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,920
He is Mike Tomlin 2 point O.
He just had a couple losing

840
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,640
seasons.
No, I don't think so.

841
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,280
Chris took flight 6-7 to the
game and I don't even know what

842
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,400
that means.
I mean, I, I, I, I don't

843
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,480
understand that, but what?
But, you know, don't be

844
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,960
surprised.
Don't be surprised if, if, if

845
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,680
Alex Van Peld is available,
don't be surprised if he ends up

846
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,240
on the Steelers coaching staff.
And and as HJ rightly pointed

847
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,600
out, thanks Fish for for giving
me.

848
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,880
I appreciate that as as as HJ
rightly points out, I mean, you

849
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,640
know, he's on the ramps and and
maybe that's not a bad

850
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,200
situation.
So maybe that's not a bad one.

851
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,560
But this is this is just, this
is standard operational

852
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,920
procedure for a Pittsburgh
sports franchise other than the

853
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,640
Penguins.
Other than the Penguins, we only

854
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,080
have three sports franchises and
two out of three ain't bad.

855
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,200
By the way, by the way, on
Rodgers and McCarthy's

856
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,600
relationship, I don't know if,
if people are just making this

857
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,000
automatic assumption, like, you
know, it, it increases the

858
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,200
chances of Aaron Rodgers coming
back.

859
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,160
Then McCarthy was hired.
And maybe it does, I don't know.

860
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,880
And maybe Aaron Rodgers, looking
back on his career, maybe thinks

861
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,840
more fondly of McCarthy.
But remember when they split,

862
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,320
they hated each other.
I mean, Aaron Rodgers, he flat

863
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,880
out hated Mike McCarthy.
Yeah.

864
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,840
So they.
Did they left on bad terms?

865
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,680
For sure.
Yeah.

866
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,640
So I mean, it would be pretty
interesting for them to really

867
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,120
come back together.
Well, and I mean, Rooney

868
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,640
basically threw Rogers right out
of town when he said, well, he

869
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,480
was Tomlin's guy, so he's not
coming back.

870
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,920
So I mean, and he had to know
that he liked McCarthy.

871
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,920
So I don't know.
I am, I'm with you on that one,

872
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,120
Mark I I would be surprised that
Rogers coming back as a slam

873
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,240
dunk. 100%.
Chris, can we please transition

874
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:39,120
to the NFL player?
Maybe I, I, I want to, I want

875
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,840
to, I want to talk about this
Rogers thing.

876
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,520
OK, I I just do because.
And are you going to now tell us

877
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:50,760
you you watch the the the show
about him and he's really a

878
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,480
normal.
Guy, you've Enigma.

879
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,960
Enigma.
Ark and you know, he goes into

880
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,440
like little caves and stuff, but
he says he's really, he's a

881
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,320
normal dude.
To me, that's a normal guy.

882
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,720
OK?
To me, that's a normal guy.

883
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,440
No, here, here's what I'm going
to say about that.

884
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,320
What I've read and, and, and the
interviews that I read about

885
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,160
Rodgers were that yes, they,
they, they, they parted on not

886
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,600
the best of terms.
But over the last few years

887
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,640
since Rodgers left and went to
The Jets, Rodgers himself has

888
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,480
said, and he said in an
interview that he had

889
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,880
reconnected with McCarthy.
And this was before McCarthy was

890
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,440
hired.
He said he reconnected.

891
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,000
They had they had started
conversations again.

892
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,320
And he really appreciated his
time with them.

893
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,440
And you know, Aaron Rodgers,
he's he's not a, you know, he,

894
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,480
he tells you how he feels.
You know, if he didn't want to

895
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,000
talk about Mike McCarthy, he
would say that's old news.

896
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,520
And that's a part of my life
that was great.

897
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,080
But it's done.
But he he made a point of saying

898
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,320
that.
Now, do I think Rodgers is going

899
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:59,320
to come back?
I I think he is I I I, I think

900
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,920
this is a let's get the band
back together one more time.

901
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:03,480
I.
Mean I.

902
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,960
I do.
Do I do I think it's a good

903
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,680
thing.
I, I, I don't know.

904
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,720
I just don't know.
Do you think Aaron Rodgers has

905
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:15,000
to check in with his wife?
No.

906
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,040
Is his wife.
Real.

907
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:25,160
Probably.
Can we officially move on to the

908
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,520
NFL playoffs?
Because I have some things I

909
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,480
need to talk.
About Yeah, let's see the NFL

910
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,920
playoffs.
OK, OK, you do you, you move on

911
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,880
and, and, and I will create the
banners for you.

912
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,440
But before we move on, I want to
take this this, this moment

913
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,640
right now to say, if you're
watching this on YouTube, you're

914
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,520
watching this on Facebook,
you're watching this on X.

915
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,560
We can't tell you how thankful
we are that you are here and you

916
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,440
are willing to put up with our
antics.

917
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,680
We love it.
If you haven't already, click

918
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,640
the subscribe button on YouTube,
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919
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,840
night at 7:00 PM.
We are here, we are live.

920
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,880
And then we do drop it into a
podcast.

921
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,160
So you go to Spotify, you listen
to the podcast anytime you want

922
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,480
catch up Hockey Jesus here,
every single Penguin.

923
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,560
You want to talk about
dedication right here.

924
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,680
Hockey fans are dedicated fans.
I am trying this year to get

925
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,080
into hockey a little bit more so
I can be more present for these

926
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,240
hockey Jesus segments.
We're going to have one a little

927
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:26,760
bit later in the show.
But I got to tell you, it's

928
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,840
impressed.
It's really as much as he is not

929
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,520
happy with me for once again
being right and him being wrong.

930
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,280
He this guy knows hockey.
He knows hockey better than

931
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,120
anybody I know.
And he's a you can't find a

932
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,880
bigger Penguins fan.
So get on the show after the

933
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,760
Penguins game, even if it's a
West Coast game late on late at

934
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,520
night, get on the show, listen
to his stuff.

935
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,200
You'll learn a lot about hockey.
So thanks for being here, guys.

936
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,560
You know, Steve, take it away.
NFL playoffs.

937
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,560
And by the way, even after the
show, drop your comments.

938
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:02,600
Send us an e-mail if you want OG
sports@gmail.com.

939
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,560
That's our e-mail.
Tell us how you're feeling about

940
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,680
this at any time.
Doesn't matter.

941
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,040
It doesn't have to be during the
show.

942
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,040
You think of something you want
us to bring up as a topic, Shoot

943
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,680
us an e-mail.
That would be great.

944
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,480
We'll try to respond to it.
We, we respond to all just about

945
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,600
every e-mail we get.
But the playoffs now, of course,

946
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,080
we've got a Super Bowl coming
up.

947
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,520
HJ has some serious feelings
about the playoffs that he that

948
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,640
he indicated in our text string.
So you go for it.

949
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,680
HJ, let's talk NFL playoffs and
you drop your comments about

950
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,600
that right now.
First, let's let's talk about

951
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:39,200
the Denver New England game.
First of all, Mark, this

952
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,920
question is for you.
Yes.

953
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,960
How do you feel about the
weather basically taking over

954
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,880
this game and turning it into
not really a football game, but

955
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,640
a let's not make any mistakes
kind of game?

956
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:58,320
How do you feel about that?
Well, look, I I'm not going to

957
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:04,120
deny that the fourth quarter was
just absolutely pathetic

958
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,760
football.
It was really bad and it was

959
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,480
kind, it was kind of a shame to
see a championship level game

960
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:17,720
sort of be decided that way.
However, I would still say that

961
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:22,760
I am in favor of the conditions
and weather being a part of

962
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,080
football.
You know, these Dome stadiums

963
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,360
and these Dome games, to me, I'm
not a big fan of them.

964
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,800
So I'm still for the outdoor
weather, but in this case it was

965
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,400
particularly bad.
Would you feel differently if

966
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:43,040
all if, let's say 2/3 of all
stadiums out there were already

967
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,400
domed?
Would would you have a problem

968
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,640
with a home team not actually
hosting a home game and playing

969
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:55,520
it maybe in, you know, a place
that's maybe 200 miles away?

970
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,960
Would that be a problem with
you?

971
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,840
Yeah, it would be because I
think that, you know, you, you

972
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,320
play the whole season for that
home field advantage.

973
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,760
You know, I'm I'm actually,
believe it or not, guys, I mean,

974
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:13,200
I I actually have a very, very
unpopular viewpoint on this.

975
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,080
I even feel like the Super Bowl
should be a home game for the

976
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:24,960
team with a better record so.
That is, that is very unpopular.

977
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,360
That's very unpopular.
You, you know why?

978
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,320
Because it's, it's all about the
money, right?

979
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,640
Right, right.
I saw something, I saw a Seattle

980
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,760
Seahawks fan.
This is kind of an aside.

981
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,360
I saw a Seattle Seahawks fan was
going to try and go buy some

982
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,760
Super Bowl tickets and they said
you know what, probably I could

983
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,760
probably get some Nosebleed
seats for like 3 grand right?

984
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,160
They went on to one of these
secondary sites to look for

985
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,200
them.
The the lowest ticket they could

986
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:01,000
find was $13,150.
Oh my gosh, and the.

987
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,880
Most expensive ticket was
$52,000.

988
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,120
Now, they weren't necessarily
getting, they weren't

989
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,520
necessarily getting that for the
ticket, but that's what it was

990
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,440
posted for.
If you had that that money and

991
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,120
you wanted that ticket, you
could buy it for those prices.

992
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,360
I think that's absolutely
insane.

993
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,960
It is.
For for the Super Bowl to turn

994
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:27,560
into such a spectacle that now
on the secondary market you can

995
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,640
get that big, you can get that
big of a windfall if you

996
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,800
actually have a ticket.
I think something needs to be

997
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,920
done about that, but I don't
want to go there.

998
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,400
I just wanted to throw that out
there.

999
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:40,040
See.
I don't think, I don't think

1000
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:41,880
anything's ever going to be done
about that.

1001
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,800
But but.
No, it's only going to get

1002
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,200
worse.
It's only going to get worse.

1003
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:51,480
As as far as your questions.
Were, Yeah, the weather.

1004
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,560
The weather.
You know, I, I, I love the

1005
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,720
weather being.
I mean, they take the weather

1006
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:03,120
out of the Super Bowl, why not
take it out of the championship

1007
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,120
games?
I well, OK, there, there's two,

1008
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,360
there's there's so many
different ways to look at this.

1009
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,880
I remember 1.
Way.

1010
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,280
I remember games.
In the stadiums where they play

1011
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,040
them in a Dome.
I think they play them in

1012
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,240
whatever stadium their home
stadium is.

1013
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,480
I mean, you're asking.
Me.

1014
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,960
It's the only one that's
different.

1015
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,320
And the Super Bowl, yeah, the
way it's done now, I think is is

1016
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,480
fine, but but let let me let me
just there's a lot to unpack

1017
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,280
here.
OK, first of all, that playoff

1018
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,920
game was not a very exciting
game.

1019
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,000
And there were two huge reasons
for it.

1020
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,400
One, Jared Stidham sucks. 2, the
weather was bad.

1021
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,280
Those are the main reasons.
Now the football reasons are

1022
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,480
Denver had the number two
overall ranked defense in the

1023
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,200
NFL and they were playing at
home in the weather.

1024
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,280
So you knew that was going to be
tough on New England.

1025
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:09,560
The only reason New England won
won that game, in my opinion, is

1026
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:15,240
because Stidham sucked and then
it started snowing because, you

1027
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,280
know, if it had been 65�� and
beautiful and Bownix was

1028
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,840
playing, we might have had a
real football game.

1029
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,840
You know, not, not that slugfest
that ended in a in nothing.

1030
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,600
I mean, if you're a Patriots
fan, I know you're excited.

1031
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,000
You're going back to the Super
Bowl.

1032
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,360
Congratulations, that's
wonderful.

1033
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,280
Here in Pittsburgh, we still
hate you.

1034
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,360
And it almost it almost seemed
like the most undeserving trip

1035
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,960
to the Super Bowl.
Well, and and there's there's.

1036
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,840
There's in that game, yes.
That game yes there's there's

1037
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,160
one thing I want to take you to
task on you said because Stidham

1038
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,960
sucked those don't you think
that the what they called a

1039
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:57,680
backward pass was a little
controversial to me that did not

1040
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,240
look like it was a backward pass
it looked like it was tipped

1041
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:05,040
looked like it was an incomplete
pass and that's the only reason

1042
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,680
that the New England Patriots
got a touchdown the.

1043
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,840
Only.
Reason was on that call.

1044
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,600
So.
I don't I don't think it was all

1045
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,040
on Stidham.
In fact, Stidham probably made

1046
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,360
the longest completion of the
day when when he went in in the

1047
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,040
first quarter.
Could, could you, could you

1048
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,680
please mute your mic if you're
gonna make coffee there?

1049
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,040
No, I'm that's my wife, my, but
it's the one of our one of our

1050
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:31,560
oh.
Really.

1051
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,200
I I thought, I thought that.
Hand.

1052
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,120
I thought that hand was like the
thing coming to grab your ear

1053
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:37,720
off.
Did not.

1054
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,600
No, no.
I'm not gonna turn the camera on

1055
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,560
you, my love.
I promise.

1056
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,320
Anyway.
Can we get back to the question?

1057
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:51,360
The the, the, the, OK, so here's
here's Part 2 of what I want to

1058
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,960
talk about when it comes to the
playoffs.

1059
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,240
Mark, maybe you can help me.
Out are you there OK, we've

1060
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,400
we've we've.
We've moved on, Chris.

1061
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:05,200
If you can't, you know, keep
yourself on screen and and keep

1062
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:10,720
on track with the program, We'll
just we'll just say sayonara and

1063
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,160
let's.
Just let's let's just take him

1064
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,920
off screen.
He can come back whenever,

1065
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,640
whenever he's not smooching
around with his wife.

1066
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,760
I'm not smooching around with
anybody.

1067
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,640
Listen.
We see her hand is groveling at

1068
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,680
your face.
Yeah, well, it's gone.

1069
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,640
OK, She's, she's making coffee
and she's gonna go back out on

1070
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,440
the deck and enjoy the, the
weather here.

1071
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,520
No, listen, I, I take, I, I take
complete I'm I'm in total

1072
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,080
disagreement with this Stidham
thing.

1073
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,840
I'm just to say this, those,
those passes that he like,

1074
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,160
attempted by, like pushing them
forward, horrible NFL place,

1075
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,040
horrible place.
I don't care whether that was a

1076
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,800
backward patch or not.
If you have Bo Nicks in there,

1077
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,640
he's not doing that.
If you have a serviceable NFL

1078
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,680
quarterback in there, he's not
doing that.

1079
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,600
They were terrible plays.
Terrible, terrible.

1080
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,200
Questions, Steve.
I can't talk to a black screen.

1081
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,840
Yeah.
The next question is it has to

1082
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,200
do with the officiating.
OK, last last week, we had this

1083
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,320
controversy around, you know,
what is a catch?

1084
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,880
What is completing the catch?
OK, the same exact freaking

1085
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,960
thing happened again in the
Seattle game.

1086
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:24,480
OK, what's completing the catch?
You're talking about the you're

1087
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,000
talking about the Cooper Cup
catch.

1088
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,920
Yes, I'm talking about the
Cooper Cup catch where he

1089
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,560
supposedly caught the ball and
then he rolled over in the same

1090
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,320
instance of catching the ball,
reached out and then dropped the

1091
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,280
ball.
Like to me, that's the same

1092
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,000
exact thing that happened
before.

1093
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,640
He didn't make a football move.
I thought he did make a football

1094
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,720
move.
Well, I mean, any more than than

1095
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,160
Brandon Cook did when he rolled
over with the ball when he

1096
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,680
landed.
I mean, it's not that much

1097
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,600
different, Mark.
Well, I think it was like a

1098
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,720
step.
I mean, he did two hands on the

1099
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,560
ball and then took a step and
turned.

1100
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,320
When he grabbed the ball and the
same instance he rolled over

1101
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,840
because he was trying to reach
forward and then when he rolled

1102
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,840
over the full way and he he
dropped the ball before he could

1103
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,560
actually reach it out the whole
way.

1104
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,680
I just don't understand what the
NFL is doing with this

1105
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,360
completing the catch roll.
It seems like there were three

1106
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,240
different ways that they called
that play and this one wasn't

1107
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,080
even reviewed.
Like they didn't even, they

1108
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,880
didn't even, they didn't even
review the play at all.

1109
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:38,520
I just, I don't understand why
the NFL can't clearly say this

1110
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,960
is what happened.
And it makes sense to everybody

1111
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,720
because it doesn't make sense to
me.

1112
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,680
And I've been watching football
for, you know, 40 year, 45 years

1113
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,120
now.
And I it's never been more

1114
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,400
confusing since Calvin Johnson
caught that touchdown in the end

1115
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,760
zone and that was not a catch.
I just don't get it.

1116
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,960
I don't understand.
Can anybody can either either of

1117
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,000
you guys do it?
I don't think that.

1118
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,760
I don't think that there were a
lot of people questioning this

1119
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,080
one.
I know, but why not?

1120
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,160
It was the same damn thing.
He didn't.

1121
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,400
He didn't end up with a ball in
his hands when he landed on the

1122
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,400
ground.
It's no different than the

1123
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,720
Brandon Cooks thing.
No different.

1124
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,080
Brandon Cook did not have the
ball when he when he rolled

1125
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,600
over.
The other guy did.

1126
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,520
It's not any different.
I just can't understand why it

1127
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:33,280
has to be so complicated on what
the hell is a catch in the NFL,

1128
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,240
especially on a play like that.
That was the end of the game.

1129
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,640
Once they got the first down, it
was the end of the game.

1130
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,080
There was no stopping the clock
and it was over.

1131
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,160
OK, so I, I, I want to apologize
for those technical difficulties

1132
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,040
and, and, and that's what they
were.

1133
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:54,600
I I I I love this this name here
poops my pants poops my pants

1134
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,520
I've been watching for 45 years
now is such a stupid take.

1135
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:03,320
HJ is a joke.
How do you how do you respond to

1136
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,400
that?
Poops poops in my pants.

1137
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,560
Please subscribe poops in my
pants cuz any any shot you could

1138
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,760
take at us is a welcome shot as
long as it's not really poop in

1139
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,000
your pants.
So welcome to the porch.

1140
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,720
Poops.
I think poops in my pants is

1141
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:21,560
actually poop in his pants.
So you know what, I think the

1142
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:26,400
reason that we're having all of
these issues is because of the

1143
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,560
technology that is present.
And and I know that's an obvious

1144
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,240
thing, I get it.
But that is the the problem with

1145
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,880
having all of these replay type
of looks and cameras.

1146
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,040
Wait, let me just finish and
then you go for it Grand

1147
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,200
Swapini.
And that is that that is why I

1148
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,680
have pretty much remained and,
and, and I'll I'll take it to

1149
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,160
baseball as well.
The whole strike zone thing, the

1150
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,760
automatic strike zone.
I think that there is a human

1151
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:56,360
element to the game, which
really adds a lot of excitement

1152
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,520
and and and it makes it very
unpredictable.

1153
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,920
And what happens is when you
slow things down in those

1154
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,720
replays because of the quality
of the technology we can use

1155
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,080
where you can literally see
frame by frame crystal clear.

1156
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:17,760
How do you project that out into
real time when the refs for, you

1157
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,640
know, 100 years in football
prior to that, you know, a

1158
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:25,040
little less pretty much it was
how they saw it and that was the

1159
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,440
word.
And I think at some point you

1160
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,240
have to think about what's the
final authority and, and, and

1161
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,920
how detailed are we?
Does everything have to be

1162
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,640
perfect?
And that's where this kind of

1163
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:40,000
stuff kind of clouds the whole
game and you get these, well,

1164
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,440
you know, they would have won
that game, but they, they called

1165
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,360
that catch.
That was a new catch, you know,

1166
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,240
and it's kind of like in the
past, if the ref called it, the

1167
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,680
ref called it, they were the end
all be all.

1168
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,920
Now we're questioned.
Now I, I, I don't, I don't think

1169
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,320
we're ever going to go.
Back.

1170
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,560
Yeah, I think you've said
enough.

1171
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,720
That's right.
Actually, there's Steve.

1172
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,480
One thing I will say that this
is something that I don't

1173
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,560
understand.
Have you guys noticed that like

1174
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,960
there's been a couple times this
year where it's a fourth and one

1175
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,880
play and they use the eyes in
the sky to determine with a chip

1176
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,840
in the ball if it's gotten past
the line or not.

1177
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,800
But like in this game, they had
the perfect scenario for that

1178
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,880
because it certainly looked like
the guy did not get a first

1179
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,120
down.
And they're like, they don't

1180
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:33,320
even show it like, you know, and
Mcveigh's going like this.

1181
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:37,200
Hey, look, look, you know, I, I,
I don't get it.

1182
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,040
I don't get it.
Like it it, It's messed up.

1183
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:45,200
I guess my, my, my point is the
NFL seems like they can decide

1184
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,360
what is important and what is it
and, and it just it.

1185
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,640
As a fan, it drives me crazy.
It just drives me.

1186
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,360
Nuts that makes.
Sense you know what?

1187
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,120
They got us talking about it, so
I guess joke's on me.

1188
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,640
Hey, look, it's a big business
and the more the, the more

1189
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,000
people are talking about it, the
more money they're going to

1190
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,720
make.
And that's why we do this show.

1191
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,520
Yeah.
So.

1192
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,520
How many games is Sean Mcvig
going to cost the LA Rams in the

1193
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,600
play offs?
Well.

1194
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,520
All the all the ones they lose
and all the ones they win.

1195
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,600
And even though.
Even the one that they won, he

1196
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:22,280
almost cost them the game.
But I, I think that, you know,

1197
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,720
as, as far as being a head coach
goes, those are the decisions.

1198
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,520
It's, it's the whole thing.
You go for it on 4th and 4th and

1199
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,200
one at your own 22 and you make
it.

1200
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,640
You're a hero.
You don't, that was the dumbest

1201
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,960
play ever.
I mean, that's the risk of being

1202
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,760
a head coach.
Every single call you make is

1203
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,720
going to be called into
question.

1204
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,240
And it's either going to be the
best call ever or the worst call

1205
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,920
ever, depending on the outcome.
And I, I think these guys know

1206
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,600
that.
Although with McVeigh, I think

1207
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,240
it's a little bit different in
that I think he, obviously he's

1208
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,480
a very bright offensive mind.
I think he's having a lot of

1209
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,960
trouble with managing the game
and being the offense

1210
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:02,640
coordinator at the same time,
yeah.

1211
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,440
I think he's, I think you're
right there.

1212
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,520
I mean, when I see him calling
the plays, I'm like, boy,

1213
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,000
wouldn't it be great to have a
head coach that's, you know,

1214
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,320
involved with the offensive side
of things?

1215
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,520
And then I think about it a
little bit more and you're like,

1216
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,080
maybe that is a little too much.
I your.

1217
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,680
I think your point's well taken,
Mark.

1218
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:19,359
Yeah.
Yeah.

1219
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,439
Well, those were the points I
wanted to make about the playoff

1220
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,560
games.
You guys have any other thoughts

1221
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,680
on the playoffs game?
Anything you saw there that you

1222
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,040
wanted to bring up?
If are you talking specifically

1223
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,800
about the Broncos Patriots game
again or we can we go to the. 1.

1224
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:40,200
Well, hey, one thing that I
think is really fun is that Sam

1225
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:45,680
Darnold is the first from his
class to reach the Super Bowl.

1226
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,800
Those not reaching the Super
Bowl include.

1227
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:53,640
I love this.
Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and

1228
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,720
Baker Mayfield suck on that
guys.

1229
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,000
Everybody just keeps.
Talking about how you're yeah,

1230
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,800
you're not great.
Maybe Sam Darnold will be great.

1231
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,800
You know, we forget Sam Darnold
was a number one pick.

1232
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:14,160
He was picked by the worst
franchise in pro sports, The

1233
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,920
Jets.
He was sorry.

1234
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:21,240
Jettisoned by The Jets, he went
to Carolina.

1235
01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:25,439
Actually, I think he was the 3rd
pick in the draft.

1236
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,760
I think Baker Mayfield went #1.
Well, but what I mean is he was

1237
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,439
their number one pick, right?
He was their number one pick and

1238
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,040
he was in the top five.
Anyway.

1239
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:36,120
He went to Carolina, got
benched, he went to San

1240
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,800
Francisco.
This is where I think things

1241
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,399
changed for him because he went
to San Francisco to back up

1242
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:46,800
Brock Purdy and he spent a year
with Kyle Shanahan.

1243
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:52,479
And I think that from there to
Minnesota with Mike McConnell,

1244
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:58,040
they were able to He was able to
learn from a good franchise, had

1245
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,400
good coaching, good schemes,
good reputations and they turned

1246
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,400
him into the quarterback that
everybody thought he was going

1247
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,880
to be because they thought he
could have been a number one

1248
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,520
pick, the number one pick at the
time he was up there.

1249
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,560
And this just shows you that
just because The Jets where the

1250
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,720
Browns pick you, that doesn't
mean it's a lost cause.

1251
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,920
I, I think Sam Darnold found
himself in Minnesota.

1252
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,880
I think he found his confidence.
I think he understood the

1253
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,160
offense.
And when he went to Seattle, I

1254
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,160
did not know what was going to
happen there.

1255
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,760
But I think what he did by
winning in the playoffs and not

1256
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:39,760
exploding the way he did last
year, I'm going to tell you now,

1257
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,400
I, I think I think Seattle's
going to win the Super Bowl that

1258
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,320
I think that's also an easy pick
too, to be honest with you,

1259
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:48,880
because they have a fantastic
defense and Drake may sure.

1260
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,720
It'll be close.
I'm sure it'll be close.

1261
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,280
And I don't know, we'll see.
We, we, we can talk about that

1262
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,280
next week when we're the week
before the Super Bowl.

1263
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,520
But right, this is Sam Darnold's
redemption tour.

1264
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:02,400
And I don't think we've seen the
last from him.

1265
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:07,520
Because you remember last year
when he played, one of the

1266
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,240
things I said is he when he
tends to get nervous, he still

1267
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,240
kind of gets happy feet.
So I don't know.

1268
01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:17,440
This year he looked a little bit
more confident in himself.

1269
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:22,040
And one more NFL comment, which
I think, just look, if we

1270
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:26,080
already didn't know how the Pro
Bowl is the stupidest thing

1271
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,600
ever, It's now a flag football
game.

1272
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:34,120
Well, we're now also at the
point where the choice of

1273
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,680
replacements for the Pro Bowl
has gone absolutely batshit

1274
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:43,480
crazy.
Replacing Drake May in the Pro

1275
01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:49,520
Bowl is now Chador Sanders.
Are we for real here?

1276
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:54,400
Is this for real?
I mean, the guy could barely

1277
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,360
play five games.
I mean, he was horrible.

1278
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,040
He was horrible.
Yeah.

1279
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,000
I mean, this guy's done nothing.
Zero.

1280
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:06,200
What the Hell's going on?
I'll give you, I'll give you

1281
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,880
this.
It's not for real Schwaber, it's

1282
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,520
for ratings.
Right.

1283
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,760
Yeah, you're exactly right.
Exactly right.

1284
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,720
And poops my pants.
Hey, after throwing shade at us.

1285
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,000
Yeah.
Yeah, this whole time it's true.

1286
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,920
We are serious.
Chadur is in the Pro Bowl, but

1287
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,720
the Pro Bowl doesn't count
anymore.

1288
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,560
Yeah, I know He didn't get, he
didn't get.

1289
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,800
The only thing that counts in
that whole ridiculous scenario

1290
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,640
they have now is if you're named
All Pro, that's kind of like

1291
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,240
your name to the All Star team,
right?

1292
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:37,800
Right.
But they just don't they they

1293
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:41,080
used to all the All Pros used to
play in the Pro Bowl and it was

1294
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,960
a quasi real football game.
But, you know, yeah, that it's,

1295
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:50,000
listen, it, it's gone way over
the edge and they're trying to

1296
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:54,200
get ratings because nobody look,
do you want to watch NFL players

1297
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,800
play flag football?
No.

1298
01:12:57,480 --> 01:12:59,880
Neither do I.
You're going to see you're going

1299
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,120
to see it in the Olympics, so
get used to it.

1300
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,640
Fine look fine.
If they if they put flag

1301
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,960
football in the Olympics, fine.
It's the Olympics.

1302
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,200
It's in the Olympics.
Yeah, it's in the Olympics.

1303
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,280
Great.
They're not going to put regular

1304
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,000
football in the.
Allegora Sanders, gold medalist.

1305
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:26,240
Flag football gold medalist.
So I, I, I think that I, I think

1306
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:30,040
that it was, it was great to
watch Sam Darnold win that game.

1307
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,200
I, I just, I really appreciated
that.

1308
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:37,520
I, I happen to be a closet
Seattle wannabe fan.

1309
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,520
I, I've always liked the
Seahawks.

1310
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,960
I, I'd like them.
When Russell Wilson was the

1311
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,080
quarterback, I thought that was
a great story.

1312
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,920
You know, when they had Matt
Flynn and then then like, you

1313
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,560
know, all of a sudden Russell
Wilson shows up and, and within

1314
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,000
two years he wins the Super
Bowl.

1315
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,760
Now I don't like Russell Wilson
today.

1316
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,520
Who does?
Forget about Hasselbeck.

1317
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,480
Yeah, and, and I did.
I I love Matt Hasselbeck.

1318
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:02,280
I thought he was great.
I.

1319
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,240
Do like, yeah, the rematch story
of this Super Bowl, you know,

1320
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,560
with the infamous interception
at the goal line.

1321
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,520
Why not just one ball tomorrow?
Can can can can we save this for

1322
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,840
next week?
I'd like to get on this

1323
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,440
somewhere on.
Burton Sport, Thanks.

1324
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,480
Hockey, Hockey Jesus, I believe
you think that the Penguins are

1325
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:23,640
good.
And Hockey Jesus, Hockey Jesus

1326
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,320
presents after every single
Penguins game.

1327
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:32,160
He preaches after every single
Penguins game on the podcast on

1328
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,560
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If you haven't already,

1329
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,320
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1330
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,360
You'll know when we are live
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1331
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,880
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1332
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,000
Jesus goes live after every
single Pens game.

1333
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:46,400
And the podcast is where you can
catch up.

1334
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,200
Take it away, Hockey Jesus.
Look, is it eight in a row now?

1335
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,960
No, no, no.
They won four on the West Coast,

1336
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,760
4 on the West.
Coast pump pump your brakes.

1337
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,760
There, I'm getting excited.
I'm getting excited.

1338
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,400
Pump your brakes.
No, they they only won four in a

1339
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,240
row on the West Coast, but it
was their first West Coast sweep

1340
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:07,240
since like 2017 or 2018, I can't
remember one of those two years.

1341
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,040
I thought if they got four out
of eight points, that would be

1342
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,080
success.
They got double that.

1343
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,720
So clearly this was a rousing
success.

1344
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,320
I think their win in Edmonton
was really the defining win on

1345
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,080
that, on that, on that stint.
I mean, the way they came out

1346
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,560
and scored three goals in the
first period against Edmonton

1347
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:32,240
and basically got their former
goalie Tristan Jarry pulled, He

1348
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,160
did come back in because I guess
he had an equipment problem with

1349
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,080
his skates.
But they're just playing great

1350
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,880
hockey now.
And the thing that's making them

1351
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,600
play so great is they're just
playing a very balanced game.

1352
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,160
Like sometimes it's the second
line, sometimes it the, it's the

1353
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,520
third line.
At the beginning of this trip,

1354
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,000
it was the first line that was,
you know, getting most of the

1355
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,720
points.
So whenever one line's not

1356
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,720
playing well, the other line's
picking it up.

1357
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,840
They're getting fantastic goalie
play from Skinner.

1358
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,720
He's been, he's been, I think
he's won seven of eight games

1359
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,840
since he's started with the with
the Pittsburgh Penguins with

1360
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,400
like a 930 something save
percentage, which is just

1361
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,880
ridiculous.
But the guy's a winner.

1362
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,080
I mean, as much as we like
Tristan Jarry and he could play

1363
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:22,480
good games, he is not a winner.
And I'm sorry Edmonton, but

1364
01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:24,960
you're stuck with him now.
That's who you wanted.

1365
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,600
I hope that Conor McDavid can
score lots of goals because

1366
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,000
Tristan Jarry's not going to be
the guy who's going to be

1367
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,360
stopping them for you.
That being said, the Pittsburgh

1368
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,280
Penguins are now firmly in the
second spot in the Metro.

1369
01:16:37,480 --> 01:16:39,680
The Metro actually is pretty
much a joke.

1370
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,440
If you look at the rest of the
league.

1371
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,680
I think Metro has the three
teams that are in the three

1372
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,360
playoff positions, the top three
positions and they have no other

1373
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,160
team that's in the wild card
position.

1374
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,320
And I have to point this out
because Pat off track is is in

1375
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,960
the house.
The Buffalo Sabres are a

1376
01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:04,840
phenomenal surprise this year.
I've always thought that Buffalo

1377
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,640
with all the first round draft
picks that they've had, would

1378
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,240
suddenly point, put something
together and they finally did

1379
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:11,840
it.
I don't know.

1380
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,200
I I think at one point they had
like 8 or nine wins in a row.

1381
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,200
They've won like 14 of their
last 16 games.

1382
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,560
Something ridiculous.
They were remembered, they were

1383
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,120
at the bottom towards the
beginning of the year and

1384
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,520
they've come the whole way back
up.

1385
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,360
Good for the Buffalo Sabres,
it's about.

1386
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,760
Time.
It's it, it's possible, it is

1387
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,080
possible They could be be
peaking too soon.

1388
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:37,120
But the greatest thing about
this year is in five games,

1389
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,920
everybody gets a break because
the Olympics are coming on.

1390
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,440
And I don't know if Pat off
track and put it in the

1391
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:47,920
comments, but I don't know if
they have very many people going

1392
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,680
to the Olympics for Buffalo.
So everybody's going to get a

1393
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,680
pretty good break when it comes
when it comes to them.

1394
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,720
And honestly, I think the
Penguins only have 4-4 guys here

1395
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,240
are going to be in the Olympics
also.

1396
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,240
So I mean, they got 63 points
and 51 games.

1397
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,520
You'll hear me say this all the
time.

1398
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,360
They're trending for over 100
points on the season.

1399
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,040
That's guaranteed a playoff
spots, probably a top three

1400
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,880
playoff spot, which would be
nice as opposed to having to

1401
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:20,200
play the wild card position for
the first time in a while.

1402
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,760
They're actually have a winning
record.

1403
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:25,560
They're 26 and 25.
I do not play the loser point.

1404
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,600
So don't expect that the to to
come out of my mouth.

1405
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,800
So they've got in.
The thing that I that I'm really

1406
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,680
impressed with is they needed to
win a lot of these last games.

1407
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,000
You know, when they played Tampa
Bay, Philadelphia and Columbus,

1408
01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:44,320
they won two of those.
They actually only won one of

1409
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,200
those three.
They beat Philadelphia pretty

1410
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,560
handily, but they lost to Tampa
Bay and they lost to Columbus,

1411
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,920
but they got points out of both
of those games.

1412
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:56,480
So right now they have a 246.
They have a 7 game point streak,

1413
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,520
which is pretty impressive.
You know, remember earlier in

1414
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,760
the season they had a 8 game
losing streak.

1415
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:07,360
They've got five games left,
three games at home versus

1416
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:11,120
Chicago, the Rangers in Ottawa,
they got two games on the road

1417
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,800
at New Island at the New York
Islanders.

1418
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:18,480
And February 5th, Pat, maybe you
and I should take a trip up the

1419
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,840
Buffalo and see them play right
before the Olympics.

1420
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,400
That would be a lot of fun.
Fly up to Pittsburgh.

1421
01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:28,400
We'll, we'll, we'll make a road
trip up there 7:00 on Thursday,

1422
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,400
February 5th, if you're
interested.

1423
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,680
I think that's really all I got
for the Pittsburgh Penguins.

1424
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,240
What what do we got in the
comments?

1425
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,440
Do I think the Olympic break
will mess up their momentum?

1426
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,680
This is coming from Richard.
Hey, Richard, welcome back to

1427
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,240
the Porch.
Yeah, I think it will.

1428
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,200
I think it'll mess everybody's
momentum up though, Richard.

1429
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,280
So I don't think that's going to
be a big deal.

1430
01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:57,280
The problem is, is the the trade
deadline is soon after that.

1431
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:02,280
So Dumas is going to be busy.
Although I think Dubis is

1432
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,520
involved with the Canadian team
too.

1433
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,760
So he's going to have he's going
to be more busy, I think than a

1434
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,680
lot of the Pittsburgh Penguins
are going to be.

1435
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,920
Because he's going to have to be
looking and see if they want to

1436
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,760
get rid of some of these
defensemen that they have and if

1437
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:20,680
they want to maybe try and make
a play for Jason Robertson from

1438
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,640
from Dallas.
But I think that's probably

1439
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,560
going to be more of an offseason
move.

1440
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:32,560
They fish says Pens are getting
immediate return for for a new

1441
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,200
owner.
Absolutely right.

1442
01:20:35,480 --> 01:20:38,160
I don't think that's why the new
owners bought them, to be be

1443
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,600
honest with you.
I think this is all about Sidney

1444
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,720
Crosby.
That could be completely honest.

1445
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,720
I think Sid really wants to try
and get back to the playoffs a

1446
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,240
couple more times before he
hangs it up.

1447
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,960
Could be a while before he hangs
it up, to be completely honest

1448
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,600
with you regarding that.
What else?

1449
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,840
I think that's really, that's
really all I have.

1450
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,320
The one thing that they're two
things.

1451
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,040
Let me let me finish with these
two things.

1452
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,560
One is they still got the Malkin
problem.

1453
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,640
They're going to have to do
something with him probably

1454
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,800
during the Olympics to see if he
wants to sign a contract for

1455
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,080
next year.
Maybe they'll let that go until

1456
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,600
the offseason.
I probably wouldn't let it go

1457
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,520
that far cuz it's, it'll be a
distraction in the playoffs.

1458
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,240
And the other thing is at the
end of the, the last game in, in

1459
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:27,400
Vancouver, Brian Rust took a
headshot at Brock Besser.

1460
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,640
I don't think he meant to do it
on purpose, but nonetheless,

1461
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:36,720
he's getting, he's getting a,
he's getting a suspension,

1462
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,440
probably a suspension.
He's he's meeting with the the

1463
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,880
safety, whoever's in charge of
safety.

1464
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,800
My guess is he'll probably get a
game suspension.

1465
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:51,160
Probably he'll have to serve it
before in one of these last five

1466
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,760
games.
No need to just just take the

1467
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,880
penalty unless it's a two game,
then probably appeal it.

1468
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,520
I don't think he'll get A2 game
because I don't think he he's

1469
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,360
not a Tom Wilson type guy who's
done this before.

1470
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,800
So I think he'll probably get a
suspension.

1471
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,040
And I think that's that's really
it.

1472
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,520
Chris Chotta does have one last.
Chris Chotta does have one last

1473
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,560
question.
What type of team are the

1474
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,120
Penguins?
Fast team, big team, defensive

1475
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:19,960
team?
Yeah, you you've asked this

1476
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,280
question before, Chris.
I think this team, I would

1477
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,760
consider them not only the
above, I think they're playing a

1478
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:31,800
system game, which means users
got them playing to their

1479
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,360
strengths, which means when the
defense need to pinch and keep

1480
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,120
the puck in the zone, they're
allowed to.

1481
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,440
But as a rule, they don't have
to necessarily do it.

1482
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,600
And the other thing they they do
well is, and not lately, but

1483
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,640
their power play's been top five
in the in the league all season

1484
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,920
long.
And lately they haven't had any

1485
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,560
power play goals and they're
still scoring.

1486
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,960
So I just think they're a well
balanced team.

1487
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,280
I think that they've got the
right players in the right

1488
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,440
spots.
Clearly having Sidney Crosby at

1489
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:05,120
a point per game guy on your
first line is a big difference

1490
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,280
maker.
The guy's a total leader both in

1491
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,920
the locker room and out on the
ice, more so on the ice and

1492
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,600
probably in the locker room.
I just, I don't know if they

1493
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,880
have a true identity, which
could actually hurt them in the

1494
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,840
playoffs because normally teams
that either have speed or get a

1495
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,480
hot goalie are the teams that go
far in the playoffs.

1496
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:29,000
They could get a hot goalie with
Skinner, but who knows?

1497
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,360
I mean, we shouldn't be talking
about the playoffs now, but it's

1498
01:23:32,440 --> 01:23:37,720
it's it's really important that
the Penguins just just keep it

1499
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,720
going at this point.
If they played 500 hockey,

1500
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,800
they're gonna they're gonna be
in the playoffs.

1501
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,360
But they do when they get back.
I've mentioned this in one of my

1502
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,680
podcasts.
They they have a brutal schedule

1503
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,240
when they get back from the
Olympics.

1504
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,680
They play a lot of really pretty
much mostly playoff teams.

1505
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,840
So it'll be interesting to see
how they fare against playoff

1506
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,560
teams because they've not been
playing against a lot of playoff

1507
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:08,560
teams in this latest 8.8 game
point streak.

1508
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,720
OK HJ.
So the next hockey Jesus will

1509
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,560
be.
Not until Thursday.

1510
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,760
The Penguins are off because
they're coming back from the

1511
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:22,440
West Coast, so they play
Thursday at home versus Chicago.

1512
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,280
I'll be at the game on Saturday
versus the Rangers.

1513
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:30,840
So Thursday night, 7:00 game.
So, you know, catch me at about

1514
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,160
9:30.
I'll see you then.

1515
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,000
Hockey Jesus preaches on the
podcast after every single

1516
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,520
Penguins game.
You can catch him here on

1517
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,840
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hit that subscribe button at the

1518
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,320
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notifications.

1519
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,800
You'll know when Hockey Jesus is
live after that Penguins game

1520
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,920
and he drops it into the podcast
on Spotify or anywhere you get

1521
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,320
your podcast.
So you're never without the

1522
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,880
protection, never of Hockey.
Jesus.

1523
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,680
All right, guys, what do we got
next?

1524
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,400
What's what's what's what's
going on here?

1525
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,600
We got we, we doing a little
what you're watching or are we

1526
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,320
going to move on?
It's time for us to give back.

1527
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,440
OK.
Yes, it is.

1528
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:15,040
And thank you, Steve, for, you
know, lighting the fuse there to

1529
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,320
this rocket that we call what
we're watching.

1530
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:23,160
We know that when, you know,
football season winds down, your

1531
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:27,720
team's not playing anymore,
baseball still weeks and weeks

1532
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,560
away, you're just left with the
pens.

1533
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,440
But guess what?
You have all sorts of time to

1534
01:25:34,440 --> 01:25:39,160
watch many different programs.
Streaming services abound.

1535
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,160
There's too many of them, which
is OK.

1536
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:47,040
There's Hulu, There's Prime.
There is HBO Max.

1537
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,600
There is Netflix.
There is Peacock.

1538
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:54,600
There is Paramount Plus.
It just goes on and on and on.

1539
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,600
And you know what's horrible
when you can't figure out what

1540
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,080
to watch?
Well, guess what?

1541
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,760
You don't have to do that.
We do it for you.

1542
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,800
We watch everything and we watch
a season till the end.

1543
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,080
If it's a movie, we watch the
whole thing.

1544
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:15,680
No walking out of the movies.
And we give you a thumbs up or a

1545
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,960
thumbs down and all you have to
do is say, hey, guys from the

1546
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:24,960
sports, Sports said this is a
winner and you got it on lock.

1547
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,800
Your loved 1 is going to say
thank you.

1548
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,720
You know what?
You've done it again.

1549
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,480
Another incredible, incredible
recommendation.

1550
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,240
And the, and the only thing that
you have to do is you have to

1551
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:43,080
either watch the whole movie,
every single instance of the

1552
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:47,960
movie or all episodes.
You don't have to watch all Four

1553
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,120
Seasons.
If it's just season 4 that

1554
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,160
you've watched, that's what you
give.

1555
01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:55,920
I'm going to start with Mark
because I am very interested in

1556
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,680
this.
I was going to watch this, but I

1557
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,920
did not.
So I want to hear the grand

1558
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:02,360
Schwab Beanies take on this.
What?

1559
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,840
What did you watch?
Oh yeah.

1560
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,920
Oh yeah.
This was, you know, the free

1561
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,880
solo guy, right?
If you saw that movie a couple

1562
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,600
years back, this is one of these
guys who they climb with

1563
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,200
essentially no equipment.
You know, there's no parachute,

1564
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,360
there's no ropes.
You know, you just, all you're

1565
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,920
allowed is a little chalk for
your hands and you got to go up

1566
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:28,480
the building.
This was called Skyscraper Live

1567
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,800
on Netflix.
And I will tell you, I was a

1568
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,840
little bit unsure of this.
We just happened.

1569
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,800
We just happened to be looking
for something.

1570
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:41,280
We get on the Netflix and Amy's
like, oh, Skyscraper Live, I

1571
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,040
wanted to see this.
And I'm like, I don't want to

1572
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,880
see this.
I'm like, we know the guys going

1573
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,440
to get to the top.
It got it got it got delayed,

1574
01:27:50,440 --> 01:27:51,120
didn't it?
It was.

1575
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,840
I don't.
It was, it was supposed to run

1576
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,480
like on on Friday or something.
Yeah, yeah, they waited for.

1577
01:27:57,480 --> 01:28:00,280
Saturday or something?
Yeah, yeah, because of weather

1578
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,360
and stuff.
I was like, you know.

1579
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,960
I'll tell you what though, man,
I'll tell you what, you watch it

1580
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,760
and you know, you just for some
reason, like you, you feel like,

1581
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,920
you know, 95% chance he's going
to make it.

1582
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,480
But that little percent chance
where you think like, holy crap,

1583
01:28:17,480 --> 01:28:20,400
this dude's going to die and the
screens going to go blank.

1584
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,200
You're like, wow, man.
It, it's definitely something

1585
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,800
that you watch and you're just
like, you got this intense, like

1586
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,680
kind of like nervous energy.
And then of course he does a

1587
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,200
couple things that are just
like, whoa, like there's some,

1588
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,680
there's some points where like
he's just got to like hang on

1589
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,200
with like one hand.
You know what I mean?

1590
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,160
He's like using his feet to get
into something.

1591
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,080
He puts his hands back like
this.

1592
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:52,520
It's insane.
It was in Taiwan and it was some

1593
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,440
building called One O 1 or
something.

1594
01:28:54,440 --> 01:28:58,760
I think it was 101 floors.
And he goes, man, wait to the

1595
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,120
very top.
I mean, he's like standing on

1596
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,600
top of like a freaking round
ball at the top of the thing.

1597
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,400
And that's what you can see in
the picture there.

1598
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,320
Just totally insane.
I mean, I guess the guy's

1599
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,640
basically the the greatest
climber of, you know, of all

1600
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,720
time.
Usually he's climbing things

1601
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,240
like El Capitan, you know,
mountains and he's, you know,

1602
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:22,840
putting his, you know, hands
into rock formations and just

1603
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,760
going straight up and stuff.
But yeah, pretty impressive.

1604
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,920
It was exciting.
I, I would say it's worth the

1605
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,840
watch.
I'm going to give it 2 thumbs

1606
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,600
up.
I mean, it's intense.

1607
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,120
The bottom line is, even though
you now know he makes it to the

1608
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,520
top, you're still going to doubt
it as you're watching it.

1609
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,120
Are are you watching, are you
watching more to see if he makes

1610
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,320
it to the top or to see if he
falls?

1611
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:50,200
Because what I want to know is
if the guy falls, are they going

1612
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,880
to stay live for the entire
journey?

1613
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,160
Down to.
Cement.

1614
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,360
No, no, it's it's on a delay.
So if he so if he they talk

1615
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,760
about it.
So if he falls it go, it goes

1616
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,160
blank.
So you already know he's going

1617
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,800
to make it anyway, you know?
No, you don't.

1618
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:06,880
No, you don't.
It could.

1619
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,720
It could end.
It could have ended.

1620
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,640
He could have fallen off.
And you know, that's it.

1621
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,200
He's.
There, so you're I get it so so

1622
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,200
they'll do it.
But if he falls, they'll cut.

1623
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:17,360
Right.
You know.

1624
01:30:17,480 --> 01:30:19,920
To me, that's no fun.
Why?

1625
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,000
Why you think it?
You think it's fun to watch

1626
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,240
people die from a fall?
Well, I'm, I'm going to, you

1627
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:30,720
know, pardon me for trying to
channel my inner Schwaber, but

1628
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:36,760
but I think the whole point of
doing this is to see if he

1629
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:41,280
falls.
And if he does fall, well, isn't

1630
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,920
that his mistake?
I mean, certain we get to see

1631
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:49,040
the results of that to maybe
deter all those younger kids

1632
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,680
from trying to climb
skyscrapers, right?

1633
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,680
He's a professional.
Yeah, yeah.

1634
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,800
I I say survival of the fittest.
It's start winning in.

1635
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:00,840
Well, yeah.
Well, two thumbs up.

1636
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,480
Two thumbs up, Yeah.
Oh, I'm not saying thumbs up or

1637
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:06,760
thumbs down.
I mean, but like if, if they

1638
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:10,920
were like I'm going.
To we're, we will, we will keep

1639
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,080
the.
Cameras on him all the way down,

1640
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,360
I mean.
No, no.

1641
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:18,120
They had a contingency plan
where they were going to, they

1642
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,120
were going to pan off of that.
They were never.

1643
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:21,800
Going to show.
They were never going to show.

1644
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,440
A bad landing.
You know, Klein, if you go to

1645
01:31:24,440 --> 01:31:27,920
the dark web, I'm sure there's
places where you can watch Live

1646
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:29,680
Death.
There there is.

1647
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,040
There's a lot.
There's a lot of.

1648
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,000
It's not actually even on the
dark web, it's on the regular

1649
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,000
web.
Yeah.

1650
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:42,000
Cool, I'll be there tonight.
So Mark gives 2 thumbs up, two

1651
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,880
thumbs up to in a live event
that has already happened, but

1652
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:49,520
he says watch it anyways.
So that leaves one more to go

1653
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:54,360
and I am watching.
I have watched the Diplomat.

1654
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:55,880
Have you guys watched The
Diplomat?

1655
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,480
Yes, I have, concluded the
diplomat.

1656
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:01,320
I liked it very much.
I you like.

1657
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:09,160
I was going to say I watched a
portion of season 1, but Fury's

1658
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:13,400
out for me.
Yeah, so I was that way too.

1659
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,760
Actually.
I really like season 1 through

1660
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,520
2.
And then I saw thought season 3

1661
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:22,000
was, Nah, I wasn't sure.
I, I, I knew I was always going

1662
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,360
to watch season 4.
And then when I started to watch

1663
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:29,440
season 4, I was like, this is
going a little too far.

1664
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:33,480
Like they were doing things that
was like, this is not something

1665
01:32:33,480 --> 01:32:36,320
that a president and a vice
president would do together.

1666
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,000
You know, I was just like, is
this going?

1667
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:43,400
Is this going too far?
And believe me when I say this,

1668
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:47,640
Kerry Russell's still hot as
hell and worth every is worth

1669
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,960
the watch no matter what
happens, no matter what happens.

1670
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:55,520
I agree, not believable.
Allison Janney becomes the

1671
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,760
president in in season 4.
I think maybe it happened at the

1672
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:04,480
end of Season 3 and she ended up
taking Kerry Russell's husband

1673
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,120
as her vice president when
everybody thought that it was

1674
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,960
going to be Keri Russell.
It was OK.

1675
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,640
I mean, I, I think it's time for
the, I think it's time for the

1676
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,160
diplomat to have a Season 5 and
end things because I think it's

1677
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:22,720
just getting a little too crazy.
I, I think it, I think they can

1678
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,960
wrap it up next season with, you
know, some sort of event where

1679
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,960
everybody feels very nostalgic
for America and everything's

1680
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,280
good.
But I have a feeling that this,

1681
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:35,480
this diplomat is never going to
end.

1682
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,720
And at some point I'm just going
to have to jump off, jump off

1683
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,520
the jump off the ledge and not
watch it anymore.

1684
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,160
How do you feel that way, Mark?
Or did you really?

1685
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,800
Did you?
No, I, I, I mean I, I enjoy it.

1686
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:50,320
I mean, I, I get where you're
going, where it does seem like

1687
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:55,360
it's going a little bit beyond
the realm of what could be

1688
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,760
conceivable.
But at the same time, I, I also

1689
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,960
sort of look at it as, you know,
it's, it's, it's entertainment.

1690
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,920
So you can kind of stretch those
bounds a little bit.

1691
01:34:05,440 --> 01:34:09,760
So I, I really liked it.
I mean, to me, I mean, I I'm

1692
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:16,040
just into anything that that has
to do with, you know, wars and,

1693
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:20,000
you know, politics and, you
know, like, you know, near death

1694
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:24,280
situations and obviously, you
know, and who's who to blame for

1695
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,640
this or that, you know, I enjoy
all that kind of stuff.

1696
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,800
Well, to.
To me, it's like they always are

1697
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,720
bringing up a nuclear bombs
going to go off, like, right,

1698
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,800
you don't solve this problem,
somebody's going to blow up a

1699
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:36,520
bomb and the world's going to
end.

1700
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,720
You know, it's just like.
When you, when you go to that

1701
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,000
level, you might as well just
say like, well, Hitler's now in

1702
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,200
charge, you know?
It's kind of like, it's kind of

1703
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:49,600
like all the Star Wars stuff.
It's like how many Death Stars

1704
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:53,520
the Empire built, you know,
before, no?

1705
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,800
I, I, I, I don't think it has
anything to do with Star Wars

1706
01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:01,240
and Death Stars, but no, like,
but, but here's the thing.

1707
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,560
I mean, I guess the reason why I
can buy it a little bit more

1708
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,760
than Steve is I sort of also
look at those things and I say,

1709
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,800
how do we know this really
doesn't happen all the time?

1710
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:13,040
I mean, maybe it does.
Yeah, you know, I, I mean, I, I

1711
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:14,480
get that.
I get that point.

1712
01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:18,640
And honestly, that's probably
that's probably why I continue

1713
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,960
to watch.
Yeah, I, I, I hold on.

1714
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,320
I do have, I actually do have
what we're watching and, and,

1715
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,440
and and I watched it while I was
down here on vacation.

1716
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:34,160
I don't know if you can quickly
pull up a, a pic for it.

1717
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:39,640
That's the RIP on Netflix.
It's the new movie that just

1718
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:46,080
came out where the rewrites Matt
Damon and Ben Affleck, which I

1719
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,720
always say his name wrong.
I say Ben Affleck and everybody

1720
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:53,920
makes fun of me, Ben Affleck and
I'm going to give it.

1721
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,280
I actually this is one of those
movies.

1722
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:01,520
Where we're tired of these guys.
You know, I don't know if we are

1723
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:06,320
we're not, but it's really hyped
and I actually like it.

1724
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:15,360
There it is the RIP Matt Damon
Beniflek and it it I, I give it,

1725
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,480
I actually give it 2 thumbs up
because it's it's it's an

1726
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:23,600
interesting scenario.
They both play cops.

1727
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:28,440
They, they, they find and arrest
drug dealers and they get, they

1728
01:36:28,440 --> 01:36:34,040
go to stash houses and they take
the money and they're basically,

1729
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,040
you know, considered to be good
cops, but there's some things

1730
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,280
that happen.
They end up in the stash house

1731
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,360
trying to take it down.
There's more money than they've

1732
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:45,280
ever seen in their entire lives,
like 20 million bucks.

1733
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:49,520
And then of course, Green takes
over and you start to try to

1734
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:53,440
figure out who's going to, you
know, are they going to steal

1735
01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:55,080
it?
Are they going to call it in?

1736
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,040
Are they going to?
And there's a lot of the guy

1737
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,640
that played Glenn in The Walking
Dead, isn't it?

1738
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:06,040
He plays, he plays a big part.
The guy that played the FBI

1739
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:10,920
agent in The Wolf of Wall Street
that took down Leo's character.

1740
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,120
I can't remember his name, but
he's a good actor.

1741
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:17,360
He's in, there's a lot of good
acting in it and there's there's

1742
01:37:17,440 --> 01:37:19,760
a couple twists in it, but you
got to be patient.

1743
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,240
You got to get through the 1st.
It's good.

1744
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:26,760
But after about 35 minutes or
so, you're kind of like, what?

1745
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,080
What's going on?
You're going to feel like it's

1746
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:31,880
Steven Young.
That's right, Pat, off track.

1747
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,160
Sounds like you're really trying
to sell us on this.

1748
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,760
It's worth a watch.
It's worth a watch.

1749
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,240
The RIP is worth a watch.
I give it to my wife hated it.

1750
01:37:41,480 --> 01:37:43,600
I really liked it.
I give it to a thumbs up.

1751
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,680
I I.
Would bet that your wife is like

1752
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,840
tired of Bennifer and you know
that whole thing.

1753
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,320
And she doesn't really give a
shit about that.

1754
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:56,120
My wife lives in the property to
the world like it's all right

1755
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,000
here and that's all the next.
And that's good for her.

1756
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,280
We love you, Lauren.
She's she's out on the deck

1757
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:08,240
enjoying herself.
So as long as we're nowhere near

1758
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,080
her right now.
So this is like a regular Monday

1759
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,440
night in the basement studios in
Monroeville.

1760
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,440
You know, when I'm done, I'll
have to do some chores.

1761
01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:17,800
I don't know.
I'm on vacation.

1762
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:23,160
So all right, guys, is that it
for us?

1763
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,040
You want me to take the same
take it out.

1764
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,120
All right, guys, listen, I want
to thank you all for being here.

1765
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:33,600
I, I can't tell you how grateful
we are that the growth that

1766
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,400
we've had for the last two
months on the YouTube channel at

1767
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,200
the sports sports podcast, if
you haven't already, hit that

1768
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,120
subscribe button.
It's fast and really hard.

1769
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,600
Click notifications.
You will know when we're live,

1770
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,280
which is every Monday night,
7:00 PM Eastern Time.

1771
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,600
No matter where we are in the
world, we're going to come to

1772
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,080
you.
We're going to talk Pittsburgh

1773
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:52,480
sports.
We're going to talk Steelers,

1774
01:38:52,480 --> 01:38:54,760
Penguins, Pirates, make some
other stuff.

1775
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,520
We dropped the podcast right
after the show.

1776
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,720
So if you want to catch up,
you're in the car on your way to

1777
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,960
work like we do every every you
know, every Tuesday after the

1778
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:04,800
show.
Listen to it on the way to work.

1779
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,840
Drop us a comment OT sports
sports@gmail.com.

1780
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,840
I'll put that up for you as
we're leaving right here anytime

1781
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,640
you want e-mail is great.
We'd love to respond to it.

1782
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:16,560
Talk to you a little bit more
about how you feel.

1783
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:20,120
HJ right here preaching on the
podcast after every single

1784
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,400
hockey game, every single
Penguins game.

1785
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:24,840
If you're a Pens fan, you don't
want to miss them.

1786
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,160
I don't want to miss this
because I, I, I do.

1787
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:32,000
I've learned more about hockey
listening to Steelers broadcast

1788
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,480
than than in my entire life
until now.

1789
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,400
And actually this year for the
Penguins, I, I am starting to

1790
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,680
get excited.
I think they're looking up and

1791
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,240
more on that later next week.
We'll probably get into some

1792
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:44,800
coaching stuff with the
Steelers.

1793
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:46,640
We're going to be moving on to
the Pirates.

1794
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:51,120
Any anything you guys want to
add to this as I cue the music

1795
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,000
and get us going?
Why?

1796
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,160
Why don't you just keep talking
until you run out of breath?

1797
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:03,920
All right, guys, listen for
Hockey Jesus, for the Grand

1798
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,960
Schwab Beanie.
I'm your Toby.

1799
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:11,080
That's it, I'm out.
We'll see you next week.

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